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    Below you will find a lead sheet and a backing track for "I Wish You Love". The backing track is a realtracks BIAB jazz guitar trio.

    Have fun with this song!

    wiz

    backing track--->https://app.box.com/s/f3nosnd1k1jz2tl7npemgwrz6e5o2foo

    Lead sheet---->https://app.box.com/s/zdrzl8sqs4k8bjrpb657y72dwxytv0n7 (Corrected version)
    Last edited by wizard3739; 06-14-2015 at 05:32 PM.

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    Hey Howie, I haven't played through it yet but is this the same version of the song? Listening to Green's version it doesn't sound like it would work with the lead sheet. (The Grant Green version is also the one I was going by, as it's the only version I have a recording of.)
    Last edited by Jehu; 06-09-2015 at 06:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jehu
    Hey Howie, I haven't played through it yet but is this the same version of the song? Listening to Green's version it doesn't sound like it would work with the lead sheet. (The Grant Green version is also the one I was going by, as it's the only version I have a recording of.)
    Grant's version has a long minor key vamp intro, repeated twice. Eventually he gets to the major key and that's where the proper tune starts. I think it's broadly similar to the lead sheet after that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grahambop
    Grant's version has a long minor key vamp intro, repeated twice. Eventually he gets to the major key and that's where the proper tune starts. I think it's broadly similar to the lead sheet after that.
    Check out vocal versions on YouTube to see what the original sounded like. Maybe Sinatra or someone like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grahambop
    Grant's version has a long minor key vamp intro, repeated twice. Eventually he gets to the major key and that's where the proper tune starts. I think it's broadly similar to the lead sheet after that.
    Ah, righto. The real book version has that long vamp included as well, which threw me off.

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    Checked out vocal versions on youtube -- again and again I am amazed to get my nose thrust into some great jazz song I never heard before... What a beautiful song! Instantly fell in love with a pleasently laid-back version of this song, Rosemary Clooney singing:



    Similar to the music of Julie London with Barney Kessel I like so dearly. Is that Bucky Pizzarelli on guitar?

    Robert

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jehu
    Ah, righto. The real book version has that long vamp included as well, which threw me off.
    which book are you looking at, Jehu?

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    wow what a great tune !! there's going to be a few killer track this month ! off i go to look at the chart and have a peek.

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    Glad this song has been chosen.
    It is a popular song everyone knows in French speaking country, where the original come from.


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    Keely Smith sang it with that minor key intro that Grant Green used:


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    Quote Originally Posted by matt.guitarteacher
    which book are you looking at, Jehu?
    It's in the old Real Book vol 3 and the iRealbook. The Hal Leonard Real Book vol 3 omits the intro.

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    Posted this in another thread. Practice session, complete with crash-and-burn. Comments/criticisms welcome.



    Quote Originally Posted by matt.guitarteacher
    Don't think it matters too much how many changes you play through necessarily, especially if you outline them in the line pretty well. I'm just a hobbyist, myself, and don't play anything too complex, but I've really worked on the chord/line integration thing.

    Below is my "practicing" through the tune they're doing for the practical standards thread this month on the forum, I Wish You Love. I'm reading this out of a real book. Didn't really play it before today, and it's rough. But it does show what you can do with things on an improvisational level once you get the fingering concept together. I'm not a great soloist, but I did some improv on this just to illustrate where I'm trying to get to eventually. I'd have to practice this tune a good bit more to really do it, even on this pretty simple tune. It kind of tanks at the end. :-)

    Anyway, my point is, as amateur as the solo and the playing are, I don't really play a lot better without the chords. It's not like I'm a lot better with a backing track, and only this good playing solo. I've just mostly improvised with chords the last couple of years.

    Anyway, the melody of this tune is particularly suited to leading with the melody first, like I was talking about earlier. As a kind of exercise I tried to play the melody note first most of the time, and then the chord after. My fingering is occasionally weirdo, but again, some of that's because (in addition to the tune being unfamiliar) I'm fingering the end of the line with the destination chord in mind, instead of the other way around.

    I'm really trying to comp behind my "inner saxophone" (the melody I'm playing). I want them to sound like separate entities, even though it's largely based on an actual fixed chord. I'm trying to not compromise anything about the melody's phrasing itself, just to suit the chord, or to set up a new position. I hope that comes across, and I hope to soon have a little better vocabulary and actual improvisation skills to use with this stuff. But the technical concept of what I'm talking about is there and should work with whatever lines/chord voicings I add to my playing in the future.

    Sorry to be long.
    Last edited by matt.guitarteacher; 06-10-2015 at 07:18 PM.

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    Man, this thing is really diatonic, huh? I'd be curious to know approaches (harmonic or otherwise) to adding interest to this one, from some of you guys who play a little better.

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    Matt, I certainly don't "play a little better" , but the irealpro version has a long intro that appears to benefit nicely from harmonic minor or melodic minor scales.....minor ii-V

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    Hey Howie... hope your well

    the lead sheet is in Bb and I believe the tract is in Eb.... although that is good practice if you play with vocalist, right... You never know what key your going to perform standards in...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reg
    Hey Howie... hope your well
    the lead sheet is in Bb and I believe the tract is in Eb.... although that is good practice if you play with vocalist, right... You never know what key your going to perform standards in...
    Right you are Reg! I almost always play with a vocalist. I will check the track and fix it.

    Howie

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    Here's mine - feedback welcome!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by boatheelmusic
    Here's mine - feedback welcome!!

    Sounds good - nice sound and relaxed swinging lines.

    I'm hoping to have a crack at it this weekend!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pocket Player
    p.s.s Today's all about WES...... iv'e never really listen to him either....or bird or parker and.......please fill in the blanks........please...... i feel like im starving for moreeeee.... what do my earS NEED TO hEAR....
    You can't go wrong if you start by listening to loads of Wes Montgomery and Charlie Parker. They will get you on the right path straightaway!

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    Here's mine. I was going for a sort of Grant Green organ/bossa vibe.


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    Just excellent, Graham! Thank You.

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    Thanks!

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    Graham, you totally nailed the Green vibe (with a bit of Wes thrown in). I've been listening to that album a ton this month, and yours could have easily been a bonus track!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jehu
    Graham, you totally nailed the Green vibe (with a bit of Wes thrown in). I've been listening to that album a ton this month, and yours could have easily been a bonus track!
    agreed

    I also wanted to put in another plug for this thread, and Howie's continued work on it. I've been participating for a couple years, and have learned a bunch of tunes I never looked at before. I think its the best part of this forum and invite others to participate: one tune a month means after a couple of years you've got an entire gig under your fingers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jehu
    Graham, you totally nailed the Green vibe (with a bit of Wes thrown in). I've been listening to that album a ton this month, and yours could have easily been a bonus track!
    Thanks Jehu! I had to practise my octaves quite a bit before trying that Wes stuff - I can play them but they were a bit rough as I haven't played them for quite a while. That's what I like about this thread - each time there's something to learn and work on, or a tricky chord change or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkirk
    I also wanted to put in another plug for this thread, and Howie's continued work on it. I've been participating for a couple years, and have learned a bunch of tunes I never looked at before. I think its the best part of this forum and invite others to participate: one tune a month means after a couple of years you've got an entire gig under your fingers.
    Yes second that, and big thanks to Howie for looking after this thread. It's a lot of fun doing these and it gets me off my lazy ass to learn a new tune once a month (as I get older I seem to be regressing in the motivation department!)

    Subjectively, it definitely feels to me that my playing, ideas, reading etc. have moved forwards since I started doing this stuff every month.

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    Hiya all, Here is my submittal for the month. As usual, this version is 90% by ear and follows the melody line most of the time. I couldn't spend much time on it due to gig obligations which seem to be increasing. I hope you enjoy the song and please feel free to critique this version. I always learn from my peers and basically, that what I am here for.

    Howie

    I Wish You Love--->https://app.box.com/s/i5vjzlrc4ve8qa9ukiql4s2sp907bskh

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    My contribution... criticisms always welcome.

    This was a quick take and I didn't get a chance to do much of anything in the mix, so sorry if my guitar if obscenely loud!



    Oh, and add me to the list of Howie's adoring fans!

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    Last edited by M-ster; 07-18-2015 at 08:19 PM.

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    M-ster, who are you, really? You're just too good for an anonymous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladan
    M-ster, who are you, really? You're just too good for an anonymous.
    Ha! Thank you, you're too kind. The truth is, I'd have to become better known to even be anonymous. I'm just trying to fit in with my fellow forumites.

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    Super tasty !!! some really good playing on that track...You keep playing like that you wont be anonymous for long

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    Excellent, reminded me of Joe Pass at times!

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    Quote Originally Posted by grahambop
    Excellent, reminded me of Joe Pass at times!
    Thanks, Graham. Really enjoyed your submission on this one, too!

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    Very well done M-ster! To me, this sounds like an excellent recording done by a good pro guitarist. I really enjoyed listening to it and am looking forward to more of your music. The tone was great, the groove was there, and the lines were excellent!

    wiz (Howie)

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    Hello Everybody,

    This is my very first post in the forum

    I was reading the thread, and would like ask you if somebody have the progression chords for the version that Grant plays whith Barney Kessel?

    Seems that is a bad start, and then I tried to follow the bass line to find the chords, cause the guitar sounds very low, and the bassist plays somethings kind og weird at the end of the chorus...

    Well, I really hope you can help or point me where to find this progression

    Peace and health for all

    Best

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    (The Howie version, I believe is from the abum)

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    This is probably what I used when I did the tune for this thread, I should imagine Grant’s version is very similar to this.

    June 2015 - I Wish You Love-60f8e077-d240-47cb-8636-5b38cb6f213f-jpeg

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickV
    Hello Everybody,

    This is my very first post in the forum

    I was reading the thread, and would like ask you if somebody have the progression chords for the version that Grant plays whith Barney Kessel?

    Seems that is a bad start, and then I tried to follow the bass line to find the chords, cause the guitar sounds very low, and the bassist plays somethings kind og weird at the end of the chorus...

    Well, I really hope you can help or point me where to find this progression

    Peace and health for all

    Best
    do not learn the tune with this live version. it is a huge train wreck, with the rhythm section playing the chords twice as fast as grant. use grahams chords which include the verse and check out grant's version with elvin jones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djg
    do not learn the tune with this live version. it is a huge train wreck, with the rhythm section playing the chords twice as fast as grant. use grahams chords which include the verse and check out grant's version with elvin jones.
    I would like to learn the chord progression from the live version, whit Barny Kassel, and by that, understand a little bit the choice of notes that GG did.

    Any help?
    Nobody tried before to check his solo at this version?
    To me, it is epic... do you agree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grahambop
    This is probably what I used when I did the tune for this thread, I should imagine Grant’s version is very similar to this.
    Many thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickV
    I would like to learn the chord progression from the live version, whit Barny Kassel, and by that, understand a little bit the choice of notes that GG did.

    Any help?
    Nobody tried before to check his solo at this version?
    To me, it is epic... do you agree?
    I wouldn’t get too hung up about the chords on the live version, as djg says the rhythm section were all over the place, sounds like they were trying to play the tune by guesswork more than anything.

    I listened to Grant’s live solo and it sounds to me like it fits well enough over the chords I posted. After all he used those chords (or something very similar) when he did the studio version (I remember it now, because that was my main inspiration for the version I recorded). So it makes sense he would be thinking similar changes when he played it live, whatever the rhythm section were doing.

    By the way Grant is not a complex player, his note choices are usually pretty simple and straightforward. It’s the sound, attack and feel that make him so distinctive (I like his playing).

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    Here are all the versions I've got, excluding the two above. I've never played it but I'd believe everything the others are telling you!

    June 2015 - I Wish You Love-wish-1-jpgJune 2015 - I Wish You Love-wish-2-jpgJune 2015 - I Wish You Love-wish-3-jpgJune 2015 - I Wish You Love-wish-4-jpg