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    This is a very nice slow Bossanova style with interesting harmony in B minor. The BIAB Realtracks backing track below is a Slow Bossa with a 4 bar introduction, 3 choruses and a standard ending. Have fun with this one.

    Backing Track--->https://app.box.com/s/oerexl8yvwtl35eywyfq

    Leadsheet----->https://app.box.com/s/nbpmg1crqpsapsqtz0mk

    wiz
    Last edited by wizard3739; 10-06-2014 at 03:48 PM. Reason: Sorry, couldnt edit the title errors:(

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    I've played this tune forever....Here's a few old takes:

    first sort of uptempo with a quintet from about 8 years ago: The recording is pretty good.

    SoundClick artist: Paul Kirk - page with MP3 music downloads

    and slow, with a trio a couple years ago.

    SoundClick artist: Paul Kirk - page with MP3 music downloads

    I changed from playing in Bmi to Ami a long time ago, so I could use open strings, but I've been changing back
    to Bmi recently. the open strings give a different vibe in Bmi.

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    Paul - I have not had the opportunity to listen to your version, but I know the song well, so I'll comment now and listen tonight. And I look forward to hearing your approach, as I know you play well.

    The choice of key does make a certain impact. The song plays very well in Bm, but if you sing as well, that key is a bit low by comparison with Bruno's original key of Dm. The song plays nicely in that key as regards the guitar and is better suited to the range of baritones and tenors. I am going to try and put up a version with the original Italian lyrics. I'd like to hear Chris Botti play this song. I'll have to check YT later as well.

    Btw, I was looking the other day at YT's policies on uploading videos. They have a very clear section on your implicit agreement that you have copyright to the music or publisher permission to play the song. All very unclear to me, as artists like troubleclef and others put up solo guitar versions of well known songs, where I doubt they have obtained publishers' permission or paid royalties. I was wondering about that in regard to soundclick as well.

    Jay

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    Targuit,

    it's ok to publish a cover as long as you don't make money on it, ie. monetize the clip.
    If you'd to monetize, then play/ sing only improvisation, without heads, as melody of the head and the lyrics are the only possible copyrighted elements.
    So, no worry, just play, sing and share.

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    Thanks for the info, Vladan. The monetization clause makes sense, of course, but when you click on the link on "how to upload" etc, the admonition does not mention monetization specifically in the same section. And if a publisher or artist requests that the video come down, I believe they have that right, as you do for an 'appeal' of the decision.

    Jay

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    If you get the ID match, they'll just ask you to acknoeledge 3rd party content and that is it. When you acknowledge it, it may get restricted in some countries, but not likely, also they could offer you to monetize as cover, if they have a deal with copyright holder. I've dealt with both scenarios, but in most cases ID robot did not even match my covers.
    It's only when you use original recordings, mechanical thing, they ask to take down the clip.
    To monetize, first you have to become Youtube partner and even then, monetization is not enabled by default, you have to purposly click on it.

    Again, don't worry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkirk
    I've played this tune forever....Here's a few old takes:

    first sort of uptempo with a quintet from about 8 years ago: The recording is pretty good.

    SoundClick artist: Paul Kirk - page with MP3 music downloads

    and slow, with a trio a couple years ago.

    SoundClick artist: Paul Kirk - page with MP3 music downloads

    I changed from playing in Bmi to Ami a long time ago, so I could use open strings, but I've been changing back
    to Bmi recently. the open strings give a different vibe in Bmi.
    Well done Paul, I especially liked the A minor version.

    wiz

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    This is a little more upbeat than the backing track, but a better tempo for my ears. The more I get into this song, the more I like it. I played this one by ear and for a change, I started the improvisation at the bridge. Please forgive the sound when I am too far outside for you. I think maybe I had too much fun recording it. I've added the song to my next jazz gig. All comments are very welcome and much appreciated.

    wiz

    https://app.box.com/s/m5bhl62lsmy4opdjmasp
    Last edited by wizard3739; 10-08-2014 at 10:58 PM.

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    I love this tune - here's my take on it. I used bass and drums from BIAB and added acoustic guitar and electric guitar.


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    super nice grahambop. relaxed, melodic

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    Well done grahambop, nice tone, beautiful lines, exquisite performance. Thank you very much!

    wiz

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    Finally got around to listening to all the tracks and they all sound pretty good. I'll have to do a little bit of work on the tune before I post mine.

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    I agree with nick1994. And grahambop was one cool refresment, as I can't remember he posted before (I even looked at his profile to check on that).1

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    Guys, I'm new to this tune. Is the form really A - A - B - A, or is it just A - A - B ?

    Just checking ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by M-ster
    Guys, I'm new to this tune. Is the form really A - A - B - A, or is it just A - A - B ?

    Just checking ...
    I play it as AABA, but I'm not really answering your question....

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    Fabulous job grahambop! While listening I couldn't resist grabbing my arched back jumbo flattop and laying down a comp behind you.


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    Delicious and sublime Graham. Thoroughly enjoyed.

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    Weird things are going on. Last month a string snapped, this time I forgot to record sound.
    You will have to trust on my word I can play this one, hopefully.

    Again, NO SOUND on this one,

    Jazz Standard Estate silent cover by me ...


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    Check out Joao Gilberto's recordings of this and DO NOT MISS Shirley Horn's version. Knowing the words is a good way not to forget the form; I sing it in Italian and English int he Bm baritone key, it's a luscious tune.

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    When I think of this tune, besides Bruno Martino, I find Chet Baker is the guy to deal with. He played with so many fine European jazz guitarists in Italy and elsewhere.

    I often play this instrumentally in Bm, but I like to raise the key to Dm for vocals. Anch' io canto in Italiano...

    Jay

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    Targuit, you can make soundtrack for my silent clip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladan
    Again, NO SOUND on this one,

    Jazz Standard Estate silent cover by me ...
    I found that very relaxing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grahambop
    I found that very relaxing.
    GB: it's note for note imitation of the first 1:37 of Cage's 4'33''. Seems kind of pointless, no?
    ;-)


    Vladan, let's hear the soundtrack next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkirk
    GB: it's note for note imitation of the first 1:37 of Cage's 4'33''.
    Damn, I knew I'd heard it before somewhere...

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    I reccomend

    1. Tremeloes - Silence is Golden
    2. Einstürzende Neubauten - Silence Is Sexy

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkirk
    GB: it's note for note imitation of the first 1:37 of Cage's 4'33''. Seems kind of pointless, no?
    ;-)


    Vladan, let's hear the soundtrack next time.
    Let's not wait for too long. It is combination of real music and unconnected licks, but hey, we are having fun, aren't we?
    BTW, I think this thread deserves more entries, each month, especially from non pro players, I mean, we have no reputation to ruin, or whatever, we can do whatever we feel like doing.

    Now, not so silent one ...


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    Sounds good to me Vladan - nice to hear a different approach.

    I might try and do more of these - it forces me to learn a new tune, which I'm very lazy at doing!

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    Barry Greene just did a great lesson on Estate, here's a link to the YouTube preview of it.



    Hope it's ok to post this, I've just joined the forum.

    regards to all,

    Sean

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    Quote Originally Posted by grahambop
    Damn, I knew I'd heard it before somewhere...
    Well, I don't know about the first buck '37, but you nailed the pace of this tune. For my ear too many either play it too slow, and it dies on the vine for my taste. In that regard Shirley Horn gets a pass...as she often slowed many a ballad down to a crawl...that was her thing...Some play Estate too quickly and its intoxicating flavor is lost...Goldie Locks would approve of your version.

    btw, prior to hearing your version, I've been a fan of Matt Otten's version for years...I transcribed it some time back...I can't get enough of playing this tune. Now I'm a fan of your version to...downloaded to iTunes.

    Last edited by 2bornot2bop; 10-27-2014 at 02:44 PM.

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    I liked this song so much I had to try it again. This time it is the slow version Bossnova style. I think maybe this song would be a very good song for background dinner music in a nice quiet club. I hope you like this version: your comments would be very much appreciated.

    wiz

    https://app.box.com/s/dfrpsvti0k90s7n9wor8

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    Wiz, I liked your version, I have 2 things to say, though, they are both in regard to "a dinner in a quiet club" idea:

    1. It should be less Jazz and more Bossa. Jazz iz demanding, Bossa is relaxing, from a listener's standpoint.
    2. That ride cymbal is way too loud, almost annoying. I know, it's not your fault, that's how they made it in BIAB, but I had to say it.
    Brushes and soft mallets, that's the way to go.

    All above IMO, of course.

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    Thanks Vladan, I agree with you about the ride symbol. Actually, I prefer playing with just a good bass player in a duo setting for a quiet club.

    wiz