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    The winner is Black Orpheus! Below is a backing track & a leadsheet. The backing track is a BIAB reatracks version with a 4 bar intro, 4 choruses & a standard tag ending.

    backing track ----> https://app.box.com/s/0lpt76retjs18old05bu

    lead sheet ----> https://app.box.com/s/ef5xqflcrv3ypkxplcah

    forum input ----> https://app.box.com/s/woacgoqfdtjpd8fzjvy1

    Also, I've included my input for this song with my wife, Colleen as the Vocalist. We were practicing for a gig last weekend and decided to use this for the forum. Comments, good or bad are always welcome and very helpful for us. I hope you enjoy it.

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    thanks howie

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    Hm, I played this one, but in the role of bass player, looking at written chord symbols. It was flute guitar and bass trio. Maybe it is the time to finaly learn the melody on guitar and put it all together?
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    I listened to you and your wife rendition of this tune. Very nice she sings very well and your playing is excellent.

    If I may have this one comment, your playing is a tad to loud over your wifes singing.

    thanks
    edh

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    Howie, I like your rendition. In contrast to edh, I don't think you are too loud when she sings, but that's because I really dig interaction in jazz, and when we post solo pieces or solos over backing tracks in this thread series, we miss that critical ingredient.

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    Like from some movie. In fact, I think there is a movie with this song for a soundtrack?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladan View Post
    Like from some movie. In fact, I think there is a movie with this song for a soundtrack?
    Yeah, it's called "black orpheus" ;-)

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053146/

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkirk View Post
    Howie, I like your rendition. In contrast to edh, I don't think you are too loud when she sings, but that's because I really dig interaction in jazz, and when we post solo pieces or solos over backing tracks in this thread series, we miss that critical ingredient.
    Thank you pkirk, Colleen & I have worked together for enough years that I often know where she is going with her vocals before she goes there. Most of the time I feel like I am playing too many notes when she is singing.

    Thank you edh, I have a hard time deciding when I am too loud because my audience (mostly retired seniors) often ask me to "turn it up", LOL.
    Howie

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    I enjoy this part of the forum very much until now as a reader and listener. Very nice tunes and contributions. I don't think I am able to learn every month a new tune beside my practice plan. But I would be glad to join this group occasional for tunes, that I already know or I am able to learn in short time. Is it allowed to take part? Are there any rules to follow?

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    No need to post every month holgit! JOIN us!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont View Post
    No need to post every month holgit! JOIN us!
    Thank you, so I'll work on Black Orpheus :-)

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    There are really no rules except we do pretty much stick to the old standards for the song choices.

    wiz
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    What?!! No Lady Gagga? You guys are soooo retro....

    Jay

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizard3739 View Post
    The winner is Black Orpheus! Below is a backing track & a leadsheet. The backing track is a BIAB reatracks version with a 4 bar intro, 4 choruses & a standard tag ending.

    backing track ----> https://app.box.com/s/0lpt76retjs18old05bu

    lead sheet ----> https://app.box.com/s/ef5xqflcrv3ypkxplcah

    forum input ----> https://app.box.com/s/woacgoqfdtjpd8fzjvy1

    Also, I've included my input for this song with my wife, Colleen as the Vocalist. We were practicing for a gig last weekend and decided to use this for the forum. Comments, good or bad are always welcome and very helpful for us. I hope you enjoy it.

    wiz
    Thanks. Is it possible to also post the BIAB backing track?

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    Rich, It is already there as well as the lead sheet.

    wiz
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    May be he asked for BIAB format file? I don't think it'd make any good. Chords are written in the chart, not to difficult to type them into BIAB and select style of preference.
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    Yes. I already have a version of it in my BIAB. It is a SGU or an SG4 file. I am not sure the chords are exactly the same (close I bet) but I will go with mine anyway.

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    I'm looking at what was given to me to play bass. 3 differences:

    1. There's no Intro,
    2. it's not in F, but in C instead
    3. In bar 8 of the chorus the last and the only chord is dim, there's no 7(b5) after it

    Everything else is the same, but transposed to C, as mentioned.
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    That is what I am saying Vladan. Wouldn't life be easy if he just posted the BIAB back file itself?

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    To be honest,
    I find the great part of fun in finding the way to play each chord as written in the carths provided, and make it all sound good to my ears.
    The path from "how in the world ..." to "oh, I see. it could be like ..." is what's important, even if where I end is not what composer, or transcriber had in mind when writting it.

    I have some rules to ease it a bit. It's rather one rule, but in couple different wordings.
    There are no proposed fingerings, all and any inversions, permutations, drop and slash chords, they are equal and acceptable as long as all mentioned notes are on number. I can play notes from a chord in any order/ way I find suitable, as long as it sound good to me.
    I'm the only judge.

    Untill now, I always managed, with a little help of my friends. Namely, couple of times I asked why something worked, what I could not hear, and people from the thread responded and helped me. Hopefully it'll stay so.

    On the other hand, I would not know something was wrong with the chart even if it really was. Give me the Beatles fake book, or Hendrix, and I'll have problem with some (a lot) of notes over some chords, let alone Jazz stuff. I speak from experience.
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    My first attempt at this...warts and all!


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    Guys Wiz does a great job on this thread, and doesn't get a great deal of thanks for it. He helps guys that can't do their own tracks to participate. If you already have BiaB, why don't you do your own??? That way you'll get just what you want, form, tempo, key, and changes. Perhaps even offer to help each month?? For my hats off to Wiz for all the time and effort he alone puts in..

    Tom..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Rowland View Post
    My first attempt at this...warts and all!

    Very nice Eric.

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    Hey, I didn't ask him to kill his first born! What's up with you guys? Here is a copy of my Black Orpheus for BIAB. It doesn't have the BIAB generated intro and it is in D since that is the key our vocalist likes. Are there any chords that you disagree with? If not, then the rest of you can feel free to use it. jeez.

    https://app.box.com/s/pj51y273syv9qmnq7t97
    Last edited by richb2; 01-10-2014 at 10:23 AM.

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    Ok, here I go:

    after many time reading (and listening) the "Practical Standard" series, here is my first post. First of all, thanks for all of them, congrats to all of you (very good players here), and sorry for the mistakes. Of course, criticisms are welcome!
    Attached Files Attached Files
    Same lick, different day

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    Eric, to sum up my perception of your take - it's what I thought it was, but zoomed, magnified, however you name it.
    It was almost a surprise, but at the same time quite on the line with my thoughts aboiut it, that song.

    Re: Warts and all ..., if you played it this way live, people would rave. When you come to record it for real, you'll take more care and preparation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladan View Post
    Eric, to sum up my perception of your take - it's what I thought it was, but zoomed, magnified, however you name it.
    It was almost a surprise, but at the same time quite on the line with my thoughts aboiut it, that song.

    Re: Warts and all ..., if you played it this way live, people would rave. When you come to record it for real, you'll take more care and preparation.
    Thanks man...I think....

    Warts and all is a British expression which I made in jest. I don't want to do take after take and editing etc...I just like to play and keep it spontaneous and if it gets off the ground...great. If it doesn't, well, better luck next time. To be honest I would prefer to record live and get that "go for it and don't hold back" type of atmosphere. All the best...Eric
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    Real nice playing Eric. And your tone is awesome. I'm not a fan of the midi strings (BIAB?), though. I think with BIAB, less is better.

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    Barcia, welcome aboard! Nice playing. For some reason your playing sounds "Italian" to me. (I know Seville is in Spain.....who shaves the barber there, by the way?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkirk View Post
    Real nice playing Eric. And your tone is awesome. I'm not a fan of the midi strings (BIAB?), though. I think with BIAB, less is better.
    Thanks pkirk...Yeah, I put the strings in there (biab) 'cause the tune reminded me of those old A&M Wes recordings...cheese w/extra cheese! I wouldn't dare put them in with a straight ahead tune!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Rowland View Post
    My first attempt at this...warts and all!

    nice playing!

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    Great version of Baden Powell:

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizard3739 View Post
    forum input ----> https://app.box.com/s/woacgoqfdtjpd8fzjvy1

    Also, I've included my input for this song with my wife, Colleen as the Vocalist. We were practicing for a gig last weekend and decided to use this for the forum. Comments, good or bad are always welcome and very helpful for us. I hope you enjoy it.
    First of all thank you for leadsheet and backing track! I am working on it ...

    Your wife has a very beautiful and jazzy voice. Phrasing is very nice. I like your tasty fills and your solo, too. Good sound and recording quality. In my opinion your guitar has a good volume during the solo. While playing fills for Colleen it could be more soften. The focus should stay on the singer.

    Once again. Beautiful! Same for your tune Just Mabe. I like it very much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Rowland View Post
    My first attempt at this...warts and all!


    Nice comping in the intro. I like your solo. Very nice lines and smooth playing. Imho, that's the way a bossa should sound :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Rowland View Post
    My first attempt at this...warts and all!

    Listened to this a couple of times now Eric and like it a lot. The 'warts' must be very low in the mix because I can't hear them.

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    Very nice playing wizard, and congratulations to your wife. I agree with Holgit, the volumen should be lower while she sings. There are a few licks I'm going to transcribe...

    Thanks pkirk! I guess you can blame it to the mediterranean, hahaha. Figaroooo!!
    Same lick, different day

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    Eric, unlike yours, my "warts" are clearly audible. The only thing i could say about your take is how different are the aproaches of the melody we did. Very fluid lines!
    Same lick, different day

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    This is my solo over Black Orpheus-a little modern take/3/4 metrum with outside notes on Tele.
    All The Best
    Kris

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    Quote Originally Posted by kris View Post
    This is my solo over Black Orpheus-a little modern take/3/4 metrum with outside notes on Tele.
    All The Best
    Kris

    https://app.box.com/s/95vgi8a5jmtc73av0i4q

    Wow, Kris. Amazing! I don't know another word for that ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by holgit View Post
    Wow, Kris. Amazing! I don't know another word for that ...
    Thanks a lot...:-)
    Jazzingly
    Kris

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    Yeah Kris!...very modern, very original, very tasteful. Also, very inspiring! All the best to you. -Eric
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    Thank you, in no particular order, holgit, Barcia, DerekD, and kris for your kind words..it means a lot. Warm regards, and keep playing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Rowland View Post
    Yeah Kris!...very modern, very original, very tasteful. Also, very inspiring! All the best to you. -Eric
    Hi Eric,
    Thank you very much.
    Best
    Kris

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    Quote Originally Posted by kris View Post
    This is my solo over Black Orpheus-a little modern take/3/4 metrum with outside notes on Tele.
    All The Best
    Kris

    https://app.box.com/s/95vgi8a5jmtc73av0i4q
    that was cool. It had a few Bickert moments....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Rowland View Post
    Thanks pkirk...Yeah, I put the strings in there (biab) 'cause the tune reminded me of those old A&M Wes recordings...cheese w/extra cheese! I wouldn't dare put them in with a straight ahead tune!
    That reminds me, I need to order a pizza for the Colts game tonight. Extra cheese it is!

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    I was going to woodshed this a bit more, but since the thread is active, here's from a session yesterday. Lots of warts. I kept getting confused because I transcribed the Jim hall solo of from the Desmond
    recording last week when Howie announced the tune, and they play it in Gmi (and Jim plays an extra half chorus).

    http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=12640903

    One thing that always trips me up about playing standards from memory with a trio or duo: I play the head and the first solo typically, and so I dont get a "dry run" through the chords until *after* I finish blowing. So usually I'm a little unclear on the chords until it's to late. For example, on this take, I had trouble remembering the backdoor Bb7 before the Cmaj .

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    Very nice Paul. Relaxed and tasty...kinda like pizza and a Colts game. With a little "Luck" they could win.
    ps : I like Block Our Fees..reminds me of the cats I played with a long time ago who used to rename tunes. mostly rude names i might add...
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    @ Kris: this may be my favourite from you, till now.

    @ Barcia: I found, on melody, it had kind of mid-eastern european violin vibe.

    @ Pkirk: Yeah, once more. Just the right ammount of Blues in it, to make it 100% pure Jazz. I liked the words game, too.
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    @ pkirk: just perfect!

    @Vladan: on melody, I tried to reproduce the feeling of the first version I heard of this song:

    Same lick, different day

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    Well, I think you did good job Barcia. She hums the melody with long sustained notes and vibrato, that's what reminded me of violin.
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