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    Here we go...

    A lead sheet pdf

    Straight No Chaser 160bpm.mp3 - File Shared from Box - Free Online File Storage

    An mp3 backing track, note that for bar 12 of each chorus I added a ii V, Gm7 C7 for all but the last chorus where it stays on F7:

    Straight, No Chaser.pdf - File Shared from Box - Free Online File Storage


    http://www.box.com/s/fa3jbmj6aulr291stvfr

    And here's one for learning and practicing the melody

    http://www.box.com/s/930723py1o46q10nv1bl

    If someone wants a fast tempo, I'll do one more backing track. Let me know what tempo you want.
    Last edited by fep; 01-03-2012 at 12:54 PM.

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    The Jazz Guitar Chord Dictionary
     
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    I think the most important thing from this is, is that the 6th chord, which is normally a m7 (with alterations if you please) has been turned into a 7th chord for easier sounding chord passages. I think I heard him say that you could do this with any chord in the major scale, and turn it into a 7th for this reason, though I think it should be done with caution.

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    So , Im the first to post a recording :-)
    here is me and the band having a go at it

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    That's a great jam man! You had some super tasty blues-jazzy licks, and I especially enjoyed the little octave part(s) .

    I will be transcribing some of those to see what you were doing. Great sax solo as well, you're lucky with a group like that! Would love to have something like that going in the near future....

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    Well ... this might be a good one for a blues player wanting to play around with some jazz. I may play around with this one myself ... and will surely listen in to the discussions and posts.

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    Good job, Jay! good feel, good lines, good tone with a nice laid-back version of the tune. Sounds like you have a fun-loving band.

    wiz

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    10x guys, I love the blues so many possibilities on those Dom7s

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    Very nice job. I enjoyed it!

    fs

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    personal goal: first jazz song attempt ever. just get comfortable.

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    (Holy crap this is fast)

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    Don't let the tempo cause you any grief! Blues are played at many different tempos from 60 to over 300. Also, many jazz players put II chords in front of the V chords and many also use a lot of altered dominant chords as subs for the the V chords. The improvisation possibilities are unlimited and the resulting lines are more about a good groove and how you feel at the time you are playing "jazz" blues. IMHO, of course.

    wiz
    Last edited by wizard3739; 01-02-2012 at 12:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessesmit
    (Holy crap this is fast)
    I'll post a slower backing track... within the next few days. How about 130bpm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fep
    I'll post a slower backing track... within the next few days. How about 130bpm?
    That would be great, appreciate that!

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    Ok ... having some fun with this ... here's what I'm doing:

    Step 1: Just run through the changes like I would at a jam session. Played with a Tele ... through a Tweed amp. It has some hair on it in a few places ... I can't help myself. And bends ... but just having fun with it.

    Edit: Newest version is on post #117 ... has the head now ... still needs some work ... take 3 will be needed.

    Step 2: Need to learn the head ... frankly it's throwing me a bit ... but I'll get it. Listening to Jayx123's excellent take will surely help.
    Step 3: Apply some of the learning from a jazz in blues course I'm working through ... try to apply some of the lessons.
    Step 4: Re-record another take and see if there is a difference. I'll add in the head in the beginning and end ... jam some in the middle.

    I'll probably not walk away from here playing my semi-hollow totally clean through a solid state amp ... but I think this will be good for me. Feel free to give constructive criticism. Take it easy on me though ... I know I'm not a jazz player at all ... but hope to learn.

    Last edited by doveman; 01-29-2012 at 03:22 PM. Reason: Updated take on post 117

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    doveman - you have a great bluesy vibe going on there. I can hear the your main vehicle is the minor pentatonic/blues scale. I hardly use this scale when improvising on the blues (I should use it more). IMHO if you are looking for a more "jazzy" sound this will be obtain if the minor pentatonic/blues scale is only one of the tools used to improvise on the blues and not the main vehicle.

    When I improvise on the blues (or on any tune) I usually think in layers the basic layer is the key center so in the blues there are 3 key centers (on for each of the dom7 chords) then the next layer will be the arps and the top layers will be the rest of the tools such as using the blues scale, the melodic minor, triton subs etc. connecting all these layers are chromatic notes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fep
    I'll post a slower backing track... within the next few days. How about 130bpm?
    I'd appreciate a slower version too, thanks! Perhaps even a touch slower - 120bpm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayx123
    doveman - you have a great bluesy vibe going on there. I can hear the your main vehicle is the minor pentatonic/blues scale. I hardly use this scale when improvising on the blues (I should use it more). IMHO if you are looking for a more "jazzy" sound this will be obtain if the minor pentatonic/blues scale is only one of the tools used to improvise on the blues and not the main vehicle.

    When I improvise on the blues (or on any tune) I usually think in layers the basic layer is the key center so in the blues there are 3 key centers (on for each of the dom7 chords) then the next layer will be the arps and the top layers will be the rest of the tools such as using the blues scale, the melodic minor, triton subs etc. connecting all these layers are chromatic notes.
    Thanks for the feedback. In fact, I went through a good course on Truefire during the holidays on the subject and wish to try more of those scales, arpeggios, subs and chromatic connections. So I thought this tune was a really good first target. I thought I would just take a run through as I would in a jam session. Then ... learn and insert the head ... and think through some specific changes in the course ... see how it turns out. This tune is a nice target project. I just wish I was still on vacation ... but back to work today. So it may be next weekend.

    During 2012, I really want to spice up my chops a bit and maybe record some jazz specifically. I'll still be a blues player in the end but I think my time spent here will help. Thanks again ...

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    Yeah, truefire has some great lessons on jazz blues. I ripped a few from it last month.

    I think when you start adding some 1 oatave arps mixed with chromatic and diatonic lines you will start hearing more options. There are some really cool idiomatic sequences to be incorporated as well. keep up the good work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brwnhornet59
    Yeah, truefire has some great lessons on jazz blues. I ripped a few from it last month.
    The Truefire lessons that I consumed were Bluesology 1 & 2 by Brad Carlton. Most of the ideas were really good and match some of the good feedback I've been getting here. That's the reason this tune caught my eye. I made a lot of notes and will try to incorporate them in a later version of this tune.

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    Make sure you check out the 50 jazz blues licks. They are Taylor made for this template.

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    I will definately check those out! Thanks for the tip.

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    My favorite so far is the Benson lick.

    I am glad that you are making head way. Keep up the good work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessesmit
    (Holy crap this is fast)
    Quote Originally Posted by JazzReggie
    I'd appreciate a slower version too, thanks! Perhaps even a touch slower - 120bpm?
    Check the 1st post, I've added backing tracks at 120bpm

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    Sorry to be late on this one, I didn't have time to do much with it. I apologize for the noisy background, (TV in the other room). I used a backing track from BIAB and the first two choruses are me trying to be creative with the comping. The other choruses are my improv, mostly by ear. I tried to stay away from pentatonics to get a more of a "cool jazz" feel and purposely didn't work much from the melody line. If I have time later this week, I will try to do a more up tempo version.

    wiz

    Straight No Chaser.mp3 - File Shared from Box - Free Online File Storage
    Last edited by wizard3739; 01-04-2012 at 12:53 PM.

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    Nice work Wiz, I especially like what you do on the turnaround at the end of each chorus. and you surly have a cool vibe going on there.

    what was that on 3:46?
    Jay

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    Thanks Jay, I love this thread, it is my favorite but I am so busy right now I don'f get to work on many of the tunes. The noise at 3:46 was a sneeze and I didn't have time to do another take.

    wiz

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    Hi everybody.

    Wow, I never paid much attention to this tune but now that I do I recognize how hip and challenging it is...

    I hope I´ll get around to posting something and I will surely take the time to listen to some of your versions.

    Cheers,
    H.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizard3739
    Sorry to be late on this one, I didn't have time to do much with it. I apologize for the noisy background, (TV in the other room). I used a backing track from BIAB and the first two choruses are me trying to be creative with the comping. The other choruses are my improv, mostly by ear. I tried to stay away from pentatonics to get a more of a "cool jazz" feel and purposely didn't work much from the melody line. If I have time later this week, I will try to do a more up tempo version.

    wiz

    Straight No Chaser.mp3 - File Shared from Box - Free Online File Storage

    Really nice sound and vibe there Wiz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayx123
    So , Im the first to post a recording :-)
    here is me and the band having a go at it
    Hey Jayx,

    Sounds real good, I like that you mixed it up on your solo with some chord punches and octaves. Nice lines, good groove, and I could hear the changes in your lines.

    Nice job on the head and comping for the sax. I think you could try being a little bit more sparse during the bass solo.

    Trading fours, nice job with that, your second go at it was hot, 4th one too.

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    Thanks fep, waiting to hear your take on it :-)

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    Great choice, and thanks to fep for the chart and backing tracks! This is one of the tunes I've never gotten quite right. I welcome the chance to focus on it, hear what others are doing with it, and finally get this sucker down.

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    Excuse me. I bring my homework.


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    I like your sound and the chromatic movements in your improvisation, AUGUSJAZZ! Nice take! Also, seems like you are using Charlie Parker lick very successfully)) The only one thing is, as for me, it's not necessary to try to play a tone of notes so fast, as you did just few times, your voicing is pretty nice without that))

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizard3739
    Sorry to be late on this one, I didn't have time to do much with it. I apologize for the noisy background, (TV in the other room). I used a backing track from BIAB and the first two choruses are me trying to be creative with the comping. The other choruses are my improv, mostly by ear. I tried to stay away from pentatonics to get a more of a "cool jazz" feel and purposely didn't work much from the melody line. If I have time later this week, I will try to do a more up tempo version.

    wiz

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    Nicely done wiz! How on earth did you recover so smoothly after that sneeze? That would have ended it for me. Also, why the comment about being late? There's still plenty of January left, or is it customary to try get a take in early?

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    Great job Wiz!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by augusjazz
    Excuse me. I bring my homework.

    Hey Augusjazz. I liked your motifs. You did fine playing 1/8's and swinging.

    I liked how you worked off of the melody at first as well.

    Some of your quicker playing got you a little lost in the rhythm here and there, but hey, we all do that from time to time!

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    I have heard some excellent versions of all of you.
    Thank you very much for the comments on my recording, I'll see you do another take correcting errors.
    There really is here a great deal of guitarists.

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    really nice take Augusjazz. some cool lines, my only comment is that some of the fast runs were not that clean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayx123
    really nice take Augusjazz. some cool lines, my only comment is that some of the fast runs were not that clean.

    True, it's something I have to improve and to stop doing.
    Thank you very much for your comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dad3353
    A very enjoyable thread, a pleasure to follow, and 'well done' to all for your demonstrations and versions. Good work, very interesting and instructive (although I'm still a few light years away from participating myself, and that's not 'false modesty'..! )

    Maybe your takes are just a tad conservative..? I offer this version for comparison...
    Ha! That's beautiful! I only wish I could play in Chick's league. That was fun, though.

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    This is my take, I decided to fill up the whole backingtrack, so I became a little out of inspiration at the end..

    Straight No Chaser - MeneerJelle.mp3 - File Shared from Box - Free Online File Storage

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    MeneerJelle, your jam is excellent, your phrasing is great!
    I loved it.
    Congratulations!

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    Here's my first rough crack at it, after working on the head and letting a few ideas form:

    Straight No Chaser (Cleaned Up)

    I've been working with the 120bpm version so far, I might have to try speed it up a bit, see if I can play to the 160pm version. Hopefully I can get some nice new ideas and fine tune everything. I surprised myself a bit with this one, initially I wasn't too fond of it, but it sort of grew on me and now I like it.

    Feedback and suggestions appreciated - thanks for listening!
    Last edited by JazzReggie; 01-09-2012 at 09:50 AM. Reason: Updated version - cleaned up tone

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    Good job.
    As a tip (although I'm not qualified to do so) is that you need to improve the vocabulary of jazz and a lick and melodically rhythmic work.
    Anyway, very well and hopes that someone more experienced comment.
    Greetings!

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    Quote Originally Posted by augusjazz
    Good job.
    As a tip (although I'm not qualified to do so) is that you need to improve the vocabulary of jazz and a lick and melodically rhythmic work.
    Anyway, very well and hopes that someone more experienced comment.
    Greetings!
    Thanks for listening and commenting. You're right, I do need to expand my jazz vocabulary! I'm fairly new to jazz guitar though, so I'm definitely working on it. I'm not sure what you mean by "a lick and melodically rhythmic work"?

    I've updated my post with a cleaner version, sorry for all the dirt in the initial one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Wein
    So I took a whack at this one today...I'm reading the head but I wanted to get a "before" snapshot of what I'm playing on this before I work on it:

    http://markweinguitarlessons.com/sou.../SNC1-3-12.mp3

    I'm primarily a Rock and Blues player who knows just enough about Jazz to be a danger to himself.

    Now I'm going to listen to everyone elses takes and steal yer licks


    Good job on this. I enjoyed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by augusjazz
    Excuse me. I bring my homework.


    I enjoyed it, thanks for posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazzReggie
    I'm not sure what you mean by "a lick and melodically rhythmic work"?
    My English is google translator, lol.

    I meant you to develop a lick melodically and rhythmically instead of playing many licks.

    I like your take 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kman
    I enjoyed it, thanks for posting.
    Thank you for listening and commenting.
    Glad you like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeneerJelle
    This is my take, I decided to fill up the whole backingtrack, so I became a little out of inspiration at the end..

    Straight No Chaser - MeneerJelle.mp3 - File Shared from Box - Free Online File Storage

    Nice sound and good playing. Damn good thread here.