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  1. #51

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    Hello friends, I did another take of the standard fixes some bugs and committing other.
    Thanks for your patience.


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    Very nice, auguss -- play on!

    kj

  4. #53

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kojo27
    Very nice, auguss -- play on!

    kj

    Thank you very much, you're very kind.

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    augus- now thats jazz!!!!!!! well played-first time i have seen your name? please play more for us and give us your input. please

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    Thank you very much Richard, is a pleasure to play the guitar, if I do is also useful for someone is much better.
    Greetings!

  7. #56

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    Quote Originally Posted by augusjazz
    Hello friends, I did another take of the standard fixes some bugs and committing other.
    Thanks for your patience.

    Nicely done! Your previous version was also good, but I think this one was a clear improvement, especially in the single note lines. The octaves were a nice addition, but they stood out a bit because they weren't quite as polished as the rest of your playing. Don't get me wrong, they still sounded good, just not at the same level as the rest.

  8. #57

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    Quote Originally Posted by augusjazz
    My English is google translator, lol.

    I meant you to develop a lick melodically and rhythmically instead of playing many licks.

    I like your take 2.
    No worries! If you don't mind me asking, what's your native language?

    I think I get what you're saying - create a complete solo, with everything connected, having a direction and purpose, rather than just stitching together licks and ideas. I'll keep that in mind, thanks for the suggestion - any tips for working on that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazzReggie
    Nicely done! Your previous version was also good, but I think this one was a clear improvement, especially in the single note lines. The octaves were a nice addition, but they stood out a bit because they weren't quite as polished as the rest of your playing. Don't get me wrong, they still sounded good, just not at the same level as the rest.
    I understand and I think alike.
    I have not the same level melodic "single note" in "octaves", that is for me very difficult.
    I hope someday to have the proper octave level.


    No worries! If you don't mind me asking, what's your native language?

    I think I get what you're saying - create a complete solo, with everything connected, having a direction and purpose, rather than just stitching together licks and ideas. I'll keep that in mind, thanks for the suggestion - any tips for working on that?
    My native language is Spanish.
    On the way to work melodically, one way is to develop motivs melodic, both intervals and rhythms.
    If using a lick "learned" to be prepared to play melodically lick is the melodic resolution.

  10. #59
    Hi Guys:

    First of all, this is one of my favorite tunes ever so it will be fun to get back into Straight No Chaser and search for some new inspiration.

    A few questions:

    I've always played it in F. Doesn't The Real book 6th edition have it in Bb though? That seemed odd to me that they would change the key. Although, moving a tune by a 5th is a great way to practice it to see if you really know it.

    Also, when I listen to my copy of Miles & Monk live at Newport they always add a cool, slightly dissonant chord over the first F7 and Bb7. That odd dissonance is so typical of Monk's compositions. It's one of the things I like about him. Does anyone have any suggested voicing of those odd chords?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Brouelette
    Also, when I listen to my copy of Miles & Monk live at Newport they always add a cool, slightly dissonant chord over the first F7 and Bb7. That odd dissonance is so typical of Monk's compositions. It's one of the things I like about him. Does anyone have any suggested voicing of those odd chords?
    This dissonance (Ab) in the chord F is the tension that leads to IV (Bb chord is the 7th), therefore becomes:

    I F7 Bb7 F7 # 9 I .........
    It's a way to create tension in a chord and was 7 th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by augusjazz
    I like it, nice sound and beautiful tone.
    You have things to work, but better than the experienced say that what the forum.
    Not for me to make corrections.
    Thanks very much.
    It surprises how decent a sound you can get plugged directly into the computer.
    And yes, I have many things to work on and not enough life times to absorb it all. I tend to ramble away mainly using the major scale until I find a take I'm half happy with.
    But its a fun journey.

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    Here's my version. Enjoy, I hope.

    http://www.box.com/s/4uhdc092koop791q64k8
    Last edited by Kman; 01-17-2012 at 11:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kman
    I really liked.
    Congratulations!

  15. #64

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kman
    Thanks, Kman! Warm touch - very nice to hear. Post more and more!

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    Thanks for listening guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kman

    very soulful. I enjoyed that

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    Kman, Great job on this, your tunes have that great "cool" vibe

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    Good job, kman! I especially like the way you allow your improv to breathe. very cool lines.

    wiz

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    Where does the time go, it's already the 20th and I haven't started working on the tune.

    Actually, I sat down and tried to play the melody. Thought I had it down, looked at the lead sheet and, "Hey I'm not playing Straight no Chaser at all". Searched through the real book and discovered "I'm playing Blue Monk (in F)". Oh well, start over.

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    @ doveman...

    Hi, your link isn't working for me.

  22. #71

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeneerJelle
    This is my take, I decided to fill up the whole backingtrack, so I became a little out of inspiration at the end..

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    Awesome - great job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizard3739
    Sorry to be late on this one, I didn't have time to do much with it. I apologize for the noisy background, (TV in the other room). I used a backing track from BIAB and the first two choruses are me trying to be creative with the comping. The other choruses are my improv, mostly by ear. I tried to stay away from pentatonics to get a more of a "cool jazz" feel and purposely didn't work much from the melody line. If I have time later this week, I will try to do a more up tempo version.

    wiz

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    Hey Wiz, You're not late (I am though)

    Nice tone, sort of acoustic and electric mixed with reverb.

    Yes, very jazzy lines... didn't notice the 'blues' notes in your lines. But it still works real well. Nice job, I enjoyed your playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fep
    @ doveman...

    Hi, your link isn't working for me.
    Yeah ... I did some clean up ... zapped a couple of sites that I really wasn't using. Forgot about this cut. I've been working on the tune a good bit ... so when I lay down a new track I'll set something back up.
    Last edited by doveman; 01-22-2012 at 12:56 PM.

  25. #74

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    Quote Originally Posted by doveman
    Yeah ... I did some clean up ... zapped a couple of sites that I really wasn't using. Forgot about this cut. I've been working on the tune a good bit ... so when I lay down a new track I'll set something back up.
    I added it to my Reverbnation site ... when I fix it with take 2 ... I'll just replace it. Having fun with it.

    Edit: Take 2 is on post #117.
    Last edited by doveman; 01-29-2012 at 03:19 PM.

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    OK. Going to give this a try, but ya'll seem way ahead of me jazz-wise. I've got the melody line down pretty well. I wind up waking up in the middle of the night and not being able to get the tune out of my mind. I think that's a good thing. So, what next? I thought that I would take one measure at a time and try to use more or less the same timing as the melody line and work in m7b5 over the dominant 7th arpeggios, trying to connect them with common tones where possible. If nothing else, I figure that will at least help me get to learn my m7b5 arpeggios. Does that seem like a good place to start?

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    Larry after learning the melody, I like to start with playing chords thru the chord progression in one position. Then do the same choosing a couple of other positions. Then the same working up and down the neck.

    Next I like to run arpeggios over those same chord fingerings that I come up with from the above exercises.

    Next run scales over those fingerings/position(s).

    And last try to jam on the chord progression trying to use those tools, and I love hearing the blues notes so I like to sprinkle that in hear and there.

    And if I find something I like I try to remember it, better yet write it down in my lick diary (I don't do that enough though).

    When I get some time I'll write up some examples.

    Yes, a lot of steps... I'm sure the more advanced players don't have to do any of this, but it seems to work for me and is a good learning experience.
    Last edited by fep; 01-25-2012 at 12:05 PM.

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    Thanks!!!!



    Quote Originally Posted by fep
    Larry after learning the melody, I like to start with playing chords thru the chord progression in one position. Then do the same choosing a couple of other positions. Then the same working up and down the neck.

    Next I like to run arpeggios over those same chord fingerings that I come up with from the above exercises.

    Next run scales over those fingerings/position(s).

    And last try to jam on the chord progression trying to use those tools, and I love hearing the blues notes so I like to sprinkle that in hear and there.

    And if I find something I like I try to remember it, better yet write it down in my lick diary (I don't do that enough though).

    When I get some time I'll write up some examples.

    Yes, a lot of steps... I'm sure the more advanced players don't have to do any of this, but it seems to work for me and is a good learning experience.

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    Here you go Larry,

    I thought it would be quicker for me to post a video than write up these examples.

    Like I said, the advanced players probably don't go thru all of this, but I find it useful:


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    Thank you, Fep. This is really helpful. I guess the concept is to use a song to learn whatever chords, arpeggios, scales, licks, etc it takes to make it work and then move on to the next song and do it all over again. Makes complete sense and a lot more focused and interesting than learning all the pieces out of context.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tytlfamily
    Ok, A late attempt, but here is my go....very rough and no head, just the solo. Please crituqe !

    Thanks, Tytl



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    Hey ty

    sounds like your fingers were dancing on the fret board. very nice feel in your playing

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    On Jan 4th Howard said:

    Quote Originally Posted by wizard3739
    Sorry to be late on this one, I didn't have time to do much with it.
    Hey Howard, Now here is a submission that is really late.

    I did Blue Monk as an intro... yeah that's what I'll call it, an intro to Straight No Chaser:

    Wondering away from the traditional jazz guitar sound....

    Last edited by fep; 01-27-2012 at 01:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fep
    On Jan 4th Howard said:



    Hey Howard, Now here is a submission that is really late.

    I did Blue Monk as an intro... yeah that's what I'll call it, an intro to Straight No Chaser:

    Wondering away from the traditional jazz guitar sound....

    Hey fep -- I like it! Good playing throughout, and I especially liked Blue Monk on that wild guitar w/ wild sound! A Godin???? (I've been wrestling lately with the idea of the "traditional guitar sound" vs. every other possible sound on guitar -- some new sounds *do* work very well, I think.)

    Love your music room, too (mine's here somewhere - I just can't always find it....)

    Thanks for sharing -- post more!

    kj
    Last edited by Kojo27; 01-27-2012 at 05:30 PM.

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    Hey Frank, that was really fun! good lines for both! Was that a wah-wah or something else? As you can probably guess, I liked the Straight No Chaser best, especially with the good comping I saw and heard with your groovy jazzy version. Really nice blues lines for both songs. thanks for sharing.

    wiz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kojo27
    Hey fep -- I like it! Good playing throughout, and I especially liked Blue Monk on that wild guitar w/ wild sound! A Godin???? (I've been wrestling lately with the idea of the "traditional guitar sound" vs. every other possible sound on guitar -- some new sounds *do* work very well, I think.)

    Love your music room, too (mine's here somewhere - I just can't always find it....)

    Thanks for sharing -- post more!

    kj
    Thanks Loren,

    I think it's funny, I started humming and singing the melody to "Straight No Chaser" and when I did I was singing with a wah wah affect. Then I sat down and worked out the melody on the guitar. In the mean time I listened to some posts on this thread and realized... What I was singing and learned on the guitar wasn't Straight No Chaser, I was singing and learned Blue Monk, ha ha.

    The wah wah sound I was after came from my memory of where Steely Dan plays East St. Louis Toodle-Oo , where a guitar sounded a bit like a trumpet with a plunger mute.

    I tried with a wah wah, but couldn't work it out to my liking. So, I used an envelope filter, that's what you hear.

    The guitar is a Godin as you guessed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizard3739
    Hey Frank, that was really fun! good lines for both! Was that a wah-wah or something else? As you can probably guess, I liked the Straight No Chaser best, especially with the good comping I saw and heard with your groovy jazzy version. Really nice blues lines for both songs. thanks for sharing.

    wiz
    Thank Howard,

    It was an envelope filter, something in my pedal board that I never tried before. It sounds like a wah wah, but is trigger by how hard you pick, pick soft - no effect, pick harder - you get the effect. You can dial in the sensitivity too.

    I like the comping best also. I think it's because I've done it so much. Single line soloing is more difficult for me.

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    Yep, that was pretty cool....... Really loved the second half. Comping and solo/melody. Nice tone also, a little bit of grit in there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fep
    Thanks Loren,

    The wah wah sound I was after came from my memory of where Steely Dan plays East St. Louis Toodle-Oo , where a guitar sounded a bit like a trumpet with a plunger mute.

    I tried with a wah wah, but couldn't work it out to my liking. So, I used an envelope filter, that's what you hear.
    Ah - my effects board has that, but I never really knew what to do with it. Guess what I'm about to fiddle around with now. : )

    (Cool Godin!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fep
    Here you go Larry,

    I thought it would be quicker for me to post a video than write up these examples.

    Like I said, the advanced players probably don't go thru all of this, but I find it useful:

    After reading a hundred times that the best way to learn jazz is to learn some songs, I finally decided to start learning some songs. This thread seemed a great place to start and your video was really helpful. Thanks!