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Thank you Kris for the track, it's a lot of fun and perfect for what I had in mind
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03-06-2021 12:43 PM
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Hi Anton,
Great feelings in intro over piano chords.Very nice powerfull playing.Great thinline Tele sound.
Best
Kris
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Much appreciated Kris
Originally Posted by kris
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Tommo -
You were the blues guy during lockdown. I'd have thought this tune was up your street. Aren't you going to do anything with it? Only wondering
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Hey, its only been a day!
Hep, I liked that, right from the volume swells...which aren't as easy on a thinline IIRC
Gets a little Carlton-esque even!
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Still am! And that tune sure is right up my street. Have been a bit busy the last couple of days with giving lessons and some other unexpected and unnecessary sh*t. Guess I'll give it a shot tomorrow! Originally Posted by ragman1
Tommo -
You were the blues guy during lockdown. I'd have thought this tune was up your street. Aren't you going to do anything with it? Only wondering
Thanks for asking!
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So while I'm learning the tune itself, I thought I'd go ahead and take a stab at improvising. This is pretty spontaneous, i.e. unpremeditated, ie. I have no idea what I'm doing. It's kind of a "working draft" as it were.. a very drafty one at that. Honestly, I enjoyed hearing the L5ces through the Princeton so much I just couldn't stop playing even when I ran out of ideas.
Think of this as a cry for help!
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Sorry about the Strat joke
Anyway, I really didn't seriously consider that option here. John A and Hep took care of the overdriven stuff
Getting to look forward to Ronstuff's contributions. Very personal feel.
Regarding the "energy" in my take/s (alluded to several times), I wasn't aware of that as a thing as I just play naturally. Good to know it's appreciated. I would actually like to get the "plink" out my archtop sound, but that would mean a more complex and time-consuming recording approach. Never been a standards player (pretty obvious) but exposure to jazz harmony has really opened up my approach to music in general. Very grateful for that.
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Just what I was thinking. Normally, it's 'Hey, it's only Sunday or Monday! ' Next one'll all be over in 20 minutes :-) Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
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Lawson - I say, that was rather impressive!
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Here's another using Kris's funky backing track. No video this time.
For those keeping score at home:
Guitar: D'Angelico EX DC
OD: Joyo Tai Chi pedal (Zendrive clone)
Amp: Garageband BF Super Reverb model
Effects: A little chorus and stereo delay; a lot of reverb, all GB plug-in
John
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Hi John, Originally Posted by John A.
Exelent playing with a great feel...look like real jam!!!Screaming guitar-I like it.
Best
Kris
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...continuing jam:
There is my happy after work version on my my arch-top hollow-body gutar.
Box
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Still working through this, but here’s a few choruses. This tempo is getting up there for me it for me, so expect some clams!
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Another great groove. Really digging it. Originally Posted by kris
John
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Clams, eh? Maybe those New Zealand variety cause DAYUMMMMM, that was TASTY. Originally Posted by wzpgsr
I guess you paired those clams with some nice fixings and quality home made spaget, cause that was mighty fine playing. I really enjoyed it. Might steal some of those clams for myself
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Now that's mighty fine for such a spontaneous take, lawson! Originally Posted by lawson-stone
Rockin' - do I hear a tiny bit of Santana in there if you don't mind asking?... Originally Posted by John A.
Cool groove and relaxed playing, kris! Originally Posted by kris
I like your laid back approch - good space between the lines. Originally Posted by wzpgsr
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fun story: i once saw a then-young-lion alto sax player, who shall remain unnamed, standing next to nat adderley reading worksong from the aebersold playalong lead sheet.
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LS, Originally Posted by lawson-stone
Your sound is the best jazz guitar sound over this jam.The backing track is fantastic - a fancy driving bass and drums play.
In my opinion you would surely feel much comfortable at a slightly slower tempo.
The rhythm section provokes a rush behind it and drives improvisation.
anyway...this is jam.
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Here's my contribution - guitar could be a bit louder compared to the backing track but I didn't want to re-record because this is the first take like it is supposed to be:
Like before: any comments, suggestions, critique are welcome.
Thanks for watching and listening.
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Tommo,
Nice playing ...Very good rhythmic phrasing.Guitar is ok- it doesn't have to be louder.You're pretty well suited to backing.
Best
Kris
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Lawson, id say your best take here so far! Really grooves, in pocket, nice lines, lots of blues.
Wzpgsr, love the tone a swinging lines. Where did you get the organ track? That sounds so good and your playing fits it perfectly.
TOMMO, nice take...love that you threw in some Kessel/Ellis bends.
I might have a go with that wacky kris track. Its like the complete antithesis of what I thought should work for this song, but everyone sounds great on it!
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Thank you kris and Jeff!
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Thanks, Jeff. Aebersold tracks are available for purchase on Apple Music or direct from Aebersold’s website. 99 cents a pop. Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
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Oh cool, thats an Aebersold...wonder who's on organ? Originally Posted by wzpgsr
I don't do apple music, but I didn't know you could buy direct from the website. Thats awesome, great info, thanks.
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Ronstuff: good stuff. I like the sparseness of it. If I had a bassist handy, I'd do something similar. For now, backing tracks will have to do. FYI, my method is to play it through a few times to get familiar with the backing track (and/or learn the tune if it's a new one on me), and then just record a take. No edits or punches, and definitely not obsessing over trying to get a perfect take.
Wzpsgrxyzpdqwertuiop: I thought this was really good. Good groove, good harmonic choices, good flow. If there were clams, I didn't particularly notice them.
Tommo: another really tasty one. Re: Santana, no conscious imitation on my part, but I've certainly listened to him a lot and that's bound to creep in.
Hep: another great one. If Dick Dale and Robben Ford had a baby, that what s/he'd sound like.
Lawson: Good ideas and groove. I agree you probably need to shed it a bit more to get the form and changes deeper into muscle memory, but the approach is right on. This tune is more about phrasing, articulation, and feel, and much less hip bebop-isms. I like the way you're focusing on that.
Between my two long comments, I think I got everybody. If I didn't comment it's because I missed your post, so point me to it.
John
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warts and all
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Great groove! Excellent blues lines, and cool framed Larry Young album. Originally Posted by djg
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That's my approach as well. Originally Posted by John A.
Thank you John! Originally Posted by John A.
Glad you joined! "Würg Song" - LOL! fine swinging lines - I wish you had recorded a bit longer. Originally Posted by djg
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and a bit of Birk’s Works! Originally Posted by djg
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Dig! Originally Posted by djg
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well spotted. unity is such a fantastic record. Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
i dont know how to multi-quote so thanks to all for the kind words regarding my sloppy mess. i havent played a gig in a whole year now and hardly remember what actual playing feels like.
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I didn’t think anyone here knew my last name. Originally Posted by John A.
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Multiquoting: click on the lower right icon to multiquote a post and the last post you want to quote click on "reply with quote" Originally Posted by djg
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Thank you so much. I was thinking about which guitar to use, and remembered your praise of the L5, so I thought I'd use the L5 on this one. I'm glad you liked it, and thank you for the good word. Originally Posted by kris
Yes, you're right, I felt a little "pushed" by the tempo. It's just the default, but I use Capo! software so maybe I should slow it down a bit.
The backing track is the one Hal Leonard produced to accompany their 2nd Edition (legal) of the Real Book. I like those tracks a lot. They often try to emulate a famous recording of the tune, which is fun.
Your track has me wondering is a bossa or afro-cuban approach to the tune is in my future?
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Thanks for the advice. I definitely still need to learn this tune, and pay better attention to the "Changes" though they be but few! My Number One goal in my music, though, is to learn bebop language, so I think trying to use hip bebop-isms is just part of the gig for me. I spent my teen years playing overdriven blues/rock stuff, and I'm done with that. Great for others, but not for me. Originally Posted by John A.
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Thanks Mr. B. This set of threads has been, for me, all about trying to free up a little and use what I've been learning, so your comment is much appreciated. Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
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For everyone who thinks that I mix too much with the styles, a very swinging version and I feel very successful ...
I changed the setup on the hollow-body guitar, the strings are high, but the sound is clearer.
Box
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Very relaxed and unhurried, kris - enjoyed it a lot.
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Thanks a lot Tommo, Originally Posted by TOMMO
I think playing in different styles teaches me to have a relaxed look at the song.I'm learning to play all the time and it's a pity that I can't play live. It's nice that we can at least play virtually here.
Jazzingly
kris
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I like it! You get great sound out of that guitar, however you have set it up. Those lines would sound great on any guitar. Originally Posted by kris
For everyone who thinks that I mix too much with the styles, a very swinging version and I feel very successful ...
I changed the setup on the hollow-body guitar, the strings are high, but the sound is clearer.
Box
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Great swinging take Kris.
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Thank you very much. Originally Posted by lawson-stone
I am aware that old wine tastes better.
Best Regards
Kris
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Thank you Jeff, Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
You are my inspiration for jam. You choose very good songs.
Jazzingly
Kris
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Well, I got up this morning...
... and after trying all kinds of clever jazzy stuff decided to keep it as a simple work song. As I'm not some tortured soul on a chain gang it was quite hard not letting those pretty notes creep in... but at least Jeff won't think I'm lazing around :-)
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There are certain new wines, however, that are quite popular and have a very distinctive and fresh taste. THere's room for both in jazz, even if some of us (like me) prefer the older. If we don't have the new, then one day we won't have any at all. Originally Posted by kris
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Very nice. And thanks for giving credence to those of us that like to "ride 'em high." I put in taller frets, and raise my bridge high enough to allow me to dig in and not fret out. Helps me vary the dynamics. Also gives my guitar "the sound." A lot people in these parts like to brag about setting up a guitar like a limbo contest "how low can you go." That's cool but it ain't the only acceptable way to setup a geetar Originally Posted by kris
For everyone who thinks that I mix too much with the styles, a very swinging version and I feel very successful ...
I changed the setup on the hollow-body guitar, the strings are high, but the sound is clearer.
Box
For me, the trick is to raise the bridge just right. Too high and all the sustain cuts--that's Freddie Green territory. But if you get right underneath that threshold... To me, it sounds like Wes and Grant Green.
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Yeah, I set my action as low is it can be where I can hit the note as hard as I want and not have it get splatty. Which I guess some folks would find high, but I like DYNAMICS.
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There is a solution: Originally Posted by lawson-stone
Then we can drink old whiskey or young Polish vodka.
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I would not last very long... Originally Posted by kris
There is a solution:
Then we can drink old whiskey or young Polish vodka.
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