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    I idolized my friend's dad who was a professional musician who's quote I'll never forget; "He wouldn't swing if you hung him".

    Joe on the other hand I understand to be well swung.

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    I was listening to that thing he did with the bass like Hit the Road Jack.

    Said it was a Bieber. Pro tip - cover one of the well known songs if you want youtube hits.

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    Look I'm drunk and I'm going to eke out this unfunny joke. So there.

    (I did use the same joke with a bunch of teenagers in a composition class and it worked tho. And the exercise of composing a passacaglia)

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77 View Post
    Look I'm drunk
    I knew that.

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    Do you think I

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    could be brilliant if I

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    posted lots of

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    posts one after the

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    other too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragman1 View Post
    other too?

    Only if you drink more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragman1 View Post
    Whaddya mean NO?

    Never mind. You've had enough.

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    While we’re waiting, I played an Epiphone Century 1966 the other day and really liked it, need a cheap and cheerful box for the old aeroplanes and their smashing guitar antics. The only problem is it comes with a signed picture of James may.

    Oh sorry James Bay.

    He’s an attractive man, but I don’t really want a signed picture of him. What’s the correct protocol? Is there an address you can send it to? Do you take it out of the case and slam it pointedly down on the counter as you leave.

    Problem is that makes you look like you care yo see.

    They get you either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A. Kingstone View Post

    Joe on the other hand I understand to be well swung.
    omg did laura say that? anyways cheers everyone i wish we could all get smashed together someday
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    christian hang it next to your baywatch poster
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe2758 View Post
    omg did laura say that? anyways cheers everyone i wish we could all get smashed together someday
    That would be fun actually

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe2758 View Post
    christian hang it next to your baywatch poster
    We. Don’t. Talk. About. Hasselhoff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A. Kingstone View Post
    I idolized my friend's dad who was a professional musician who's quote I'll never forget; "He wouldn't swing if you hung him".

    Joe on the other hand I understand to be well swung.
    Which reminds me of the "motto" over Kirkegaard's Concluding Unscientific Postscript:

    "Better well hung than ill wed."

    Of course, that really has a new connotation these days, doesn't it!?
    - Lawson
    "Whenever you come near the human race, there's layers and layers of nonsense." - Thornton Wilder, Our Town

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77 View Post
    That would be fun actually

    Indeed, but Joe please leave my sister out of it. It's over.

    Just play Laura and cry.

    I've been playing drums along to bebop recordings and I think the key to swing is to know where the top of the beat is. Play upbeats always.


    A bandleader I worked with a while ago did a workshop with Dexter Gordon and the inevitable question was posed, "how do you stay so far behind the beat"?

    Long Tall replied "I have no idea what you are talking about".

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    Funny how someone can have the time to post long, effusive imagistic, metaphor laden agendas for how to learn to swing, but doesn't have time to pull any one of what must be dozens of clips illustrating solid swing feel on a jazz tune. I mean, who hasn't got time to post a YouTube link. Someone who gives tons of advice and long lists of steps and procedures to follow surely already has a wealth of material they could share.

    I mean, Mr. Miller drunk can still put up a solid clip in a matter of minutes, better stuff than I can do sober, and sadly, I'm ALWAYS sober.

    Which reminds me of the exchange between Churchill and Lady Astor:

    Astor: Mr Churchill, you are drunk!
    Churchill: Yes I am. And you are UGLY. But tomorrow, I shall be sober...
    - Lawson
    "Whenever you come near the human race, there's layers and layers of nonsense." - Thornton Wilder, Our Town

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe2758 View Post
    christian hang it next to your baywatch poster
    God, he' got a poster of DAVID HASSELHOFF?

    (backs away very quietly, keeping his eyes on everyone in the saloon before backing out the swinging doors into the street...)
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    "Whenever you come near the human race, there's layers and layers of nonsense." - Thornton Wilder, Our Town

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    hahaha stone you on fire tonight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionelsax View Post
    I've been in that cave, many times! Very cool place.
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    "Whenever you come near the human race, there's layers and layers of nonsense." - Thornton Wilder, Our Town

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe2758 View Post
    hahaha stone you on fire tonight
    I still am not sure who Laura is...
    - Lawson
    "Whenever you come near the human race, there's layers and layers of nonsense." - Thornton Wilder, Our Town

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    well shes alan’s sister, and to quote another song, everything in the world to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe2758 View Post
    well shes alan’s sister, and to quote another song, everything in the world to me
    Whoa maybe that's TMI

    If somebody plays the Stones' "Angie" I'll get riled up. She's mine.
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    "Whenever you come near the human race, there's layers and layers of nonsense." - Thornton Wilder, Our Town

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone View Post
    Whoa maybe that's TMI

    If somebody plays the Stones' "Angie" I'll get riled up. She's mine.
    Shit! That was a NYT Crossword Puzzle answer today (old puzzle) and I thought "I could sing that".

    No way now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A. Kingstone View Post
    That was a NYT Crossword Puzzle answer.
    stop acting like youre american
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe2758 View Post
    stop acting like youre american

    Start using punctuation.

    The colonies; sheesh.

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    I feel bad for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's the best they're going to feel all day.

    Frank Sinatra
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    "Jazz is like life...it goes on longer than you think, and as soon as you're like 'oh, I get it,' it ends."

    --The Ghost of Duke Ellington

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    Please somebody; roll Christian over.

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    I’ve seen Christian so drunk he didnt remember his name but he was still on here telling people its not a Db its a C#
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    This is really SUPER stuff guys.

    Given that no troll is happier than when they have the opportunity to stay cool story bro I thought I would add to tonights fun with enough personal information to allow y'all to use it correctly.

    I typed this earlier as I steered the other David back onto the bed and changed his sheets and quietly panicked waiting for his rescue medication to take effect. I don't think it will be convenient to record anything anytime soon.



    .................

    Where I live the street is more often than not filled with beautiful happy Roma Children, white kids are prisoners. Today I visited Maggie whilst working with my friend and colleague Alan, and of course David who I care for was there, the drive being for his benefit. One girls who recently started school and has barely learned English was playing. She is, as many children are, possessing of perfectly proportioned features and could have stepped out of a late renaissance oil painting. She is super charismatic and confident which suggests that her mother who I say hello to as she smokes on our street is doing a superb job. A few days ago the girl accosted me in the street and said I should give her money, pushing my tummy as she walked backwards, I told her off. The reason is probably that a few weeks ago on the hottest day of the year her friends Rudy and Ivanka left our corner shop empty handed after gazing for a long time in the freezer cabinet, so I bought a dozen ice poles and gave them to their mother who was eating pumpkin seeds on a chair outside the close neighbouring ours. She shared them amongst her children and the children of her friends.



    Today the little girl and her two brothers were playing happily, the elder boy told me 'yes it's new' as he cycled past on his bicycle but of course, like small animals and all children, they were only drawn to stop and stand and talk when Maggie arrived, also on a bicycle.



    They chatted easily to Maggie as I extinguished my cigarette and then to me and then Alan in the drivers seat. They asked where my bicycle was and I pointed and said far away, fourteen miles, I am working today that is where David lives. He didn't believe me and asked how I would get it back I said I would finish work on Monday and would return on it. Then they asked about David who was sitting in the back seat. I said 'we care for him, he is very ill'. Surprised that he had not been invited to join the conversation the girl asked with sudden insight 'can he talk ?'



    'No', I said 'He cannot talk, there are a lot of things he cannot do'.



    She looked up at me, her eyes, rare amongst her kin, illuminating the sun above us with their blue, ill used to clouds, met mine.



    'That's not fair she said.'



    I reached for Maggie's, hand.



    The girl began to sing again as is her habit when not talking , her habitual teasing smile returned. I joined the tune with her, it was the one the child sang on the train carriage in Latcha Drom. She squinted at me and her little brow creased. It was a delight to surprise her.

    ///////////

    I am glad you are all using your time productively, and I apologise for my laziness as the organ grinder should not only turn the handle but also stop and dance when the monkeys demand it.

    I feel that anyone who bakes a cake and takes it out of the oven half way through the cooking time is unlikely be any better at cooking barbecue, since I can cook and can spot someone who cant pretty easily. I shan't be in a hurry to produce a video but when it is convenient I will share it here, especially for all y'all.

    Just wait.

    D.

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    Urrrrrgggghhhhh. Ow.

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    Not a response to Freel's post BTW, which would be of course; cool story, bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77 View Post
    Urrrrrgggghhhhh. Ow.
    Not here, Christian. In the bathroom, please.

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    anyone else drunk again? just me? ahh well...
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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77 View Post
    Not a response to Freel's post BTW, which would be of course; cool story, bro.
    Some people are very well read. Again, my only issue is that someone with this much wisdom and skill likely already has lots of material to make available. It would take less time just to post it than it took to paste that material.
    - Lawson
    "Whenever you come near the human race, there's layers and layers of nonsense." - Thornton Wilder, Our Town

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    Is there an interview or article or book in which he says this about her phrasing? Does he give examples? I want to hear it, but I'm not sure that I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Johnson View Post
    Is there an interview or article or book in which he says this about her phrasing? Does he give examples? I want to hear it, but I'm not sure that I do.
    I have no memory of what this is in reference to

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77 View Post
    I have no memory of what this is in reference to

    Sorry. I meant to include a quotation about Wynton Marsalis pointing out that "Billie's phrasing is heavily based on 1/4 triplets and this gives the phrasing that sounds 'behind the beat.' "

    I was asking for the source, and if he provided any examples of her phrasing that were based on 1/4 note triplets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Johnson View Post
    Sorry. I meant to include a quotation about Wynton Marsalis pointing out that "Billie's phrasing is heavily based on 1/4 triplets and this gives the phrasing that sounds 'behind the beat.' "

    I was asking for the source, and if he provided any examples of her phrasing that were based on 1/4 note triplets.
    Sure thing fella

    Interview with Wynton Marsalis (Part 1) | DO THE M@TH
    Relevant quote:

    EI: Barry Harris told me once that he thought Charlie Parker constantly played in 4 and 6 at the same time. That it was in there somewhere…
    WM: It’s in everybody’s music. Billie Holiday is the most pronounced one…
    EI: Oh, you think so?
    WM: Well, that I’ve heard of the jazz musicians. If we put on a Billie Holiday record and we tap quarter note triplets, a lot of her phrasing will line exactly up with those triplets. Put her music on and tap out a quarter note triplet. She’s always in that quarter note time. “Sailboat in the moonlight with you…”
    With our music it’s more playing against the ground rhythm. We set the ground rhythm up and we play with the rhythms in the context of the ground rhythm. Monk is a great example of that. Or for today, Marcus Roberts. They both set up the ground rhythm and play a lot of really inventive rhythms that will resolve in the context of the ground rhythm. And this is like African music with the exception of the fact that African musicians are playing in the two times at once. In our music it’s kind of over here in the lower of the 4 time. We’re playing in the upper three – if you got to be technical about it – we’re not hearing it like that of course. But we’re super-imposing all these rhythms and melodies on top of it and trying to resolve them with a certain type of feeling in time.

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    The less observant of you may not have noticed that, before the illegal action of the moderator, the wait was not so long. Me, I can wait a long time.

    But that doesn't matter, this is a place for jokers, not musicians so here is a joke.

    A raggedy stranger wearing a poncho and blue jeans walks into a busy bar, and silence.

    Attempting to be casual and adjusting his ill fitting black hat a boy greeted him.


    'Evening... hippy, we got a tradition in this here town, strangers they gotta tell use a joke you see, we like to laugh.'


    There are sniggers.


    Calmly the stranger tells his joke, his voice is hard yet kind, the joke is good.

    Noone has the courage to laugh.



    'Friend.... you don't seem to understand, this here is a racist bar, tell us a racist joke.'


    'Listen son I don't believe in race, I am a man of learning, I have checked, race just don't exits you see
    there's only two types of people, good people and bad people, me I'm a bad motherfucker.'


    Slowly, softly, sadly smiling and unsurprised blue eyes now turned to flint the stranger left as he so often had, backwards.

    The kid took one step towards the door before turning sharply and heading for the privy.
    The barman went through the back to piss in the whisky, when he returned the kid was spinning his toy guns in the mirror again.


    D.