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    Is there anyone better than adam rogers these days? Listen to the precision that he plays with. Not just his solos but his rhythm playing. Such pocket!


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    This is just excellent.
    Jeff Matz, Jazz Guitar:
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    then there's this ridiculous example with Peter Farrell and Adam Rogers




    Time to hit the woodshed!!!!






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    My new mantra is "find the clave in everything." The pulse within the beat...or something like that.
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    The new Dice cd is incredible! I still have recorded sets from him playing with michael brecker, which was the first time i heard him play! There are a couple of videos around of him playing classical as well, he kills there too

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    i'd love to hear those recorded sets with brecker!

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    I got to see Adam years ago when he was in John Patitucci's trio such an amazing musician. The only bad thing was that was when Adam was in to that really dark bassy sound and it got muddy sounding.

    Adam has a tutor video on odd note grouping

    Adam Rogers Guitar Lesson (3) - Compound Note Groupings
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    Thanks Doc.

    P.S.

    I also bought the dice record the day it was available. Amazing playing. Definitely an ode to Jimi / Stevie and there is some beatles in there too!

    The difference is that Adam's time is so ridiculously locked in!

    My son recently saw the dice band at 55bar in NYC. He said it was the loudest concert he'd ever heard! He's not a gear head but from the description it sounded like a pair of twin reverbs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jzucker View Post
    i'd love to hear those recorded sets with brecker!
    They were minidisc recordings, i need to see if these disks still work, havent listened to them for a while now! I have so much stuff from my berklee days, all these recitals from people playing there, lage lund, lionel lueke, lots of great sax and rhythm players as well. And most of these guys were on their "chops" period then, younger, lacking maybe the maturity that came after, but if you enjoy that particular kind of playing, which i do, they were burning!

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    just purchased adam's compound note groupings and chromaticism and polytonality videos!

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    I was just listening to Adam's incredible solo on "Long Ago And Far Away" from "Art Of The Invisible" this morning. I think this is one of my favorite jazz guitar solos ever. It's incredibly well constructed, and forms a complete, logical statement and has a real "arc" to it. There's several points which seem like the peak, in terms of dynamics and excitement, and then in the next chorus he takes it even further! I don't think I'll ever get sick of listening to this one. The whole record is great, but this particular solo is a favorite of mine.


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    Adam is definitely one of the best jazz guitarists in history. There are a lot of great jazz improvisers on guitar but he can do it all from rhythm to solos and he plays all styles too. I've heard him do heavy metal stuff, hendrix, classical, etc.

    It's erie hearing Jimi done with polyrhythms and such incredibly locked in time.

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    great facility, but sounds too mechanical. no soul in it.


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    Thanks for these clips. I'd heard him at the 55bar years ago in a context I didn't like him as much in so I'd sort of written him off. Seems I'd been missing something...

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    Here's some Adam Rogers with Michael Brecker:

    http://ia600306.us.archive.org/25/it...ulMN.mp3?cnt=0

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    I have the bootleg of Brecker/Rogers/Larry Goldings/Clarence Penn at Ronnie Scott's, London in 2000 that's been doing the rounds for years.

    Got to see him this exact day last year at the 55 Bar with David Binney. For the first half of the set, they played bop and standards from the 'R&R' album, with Rogers on his 335. For the second half of the set, he strapped on an SG (with paperclips and lolipop sticks in the strings!), cranked the amp and reverb and off they went into an incredible long space-funk jam.

    His videos for mymusicmasterclass.com are great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David B View Post
    I have the bootleg of Brecker/Rogers/Larry Goldings/Clarence Penn at Ronnie Scott's, London in 2000 that's been doing the rounds for years.

    Got to see him this exact day last year at the 55 Bar with David Binney. For the first half of the set, they played bop and standards from the 'R&R' album, with Rogers on his 335. For the second half of the set, he strapped on an SG (with paperclips and lolipop sticks in the strings!), cranked the amp and reverb and off they went into an incredible long space-funk jam.

    His videos for mymusicmasterclass.com are great.
    I love the two that I bought today. I've already learned a ton.

    i'd love to get a copy of that bootleg.

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    Adam is one of those players that I enjoy as a contributing sideman as much as with his own groups. He and fellow band mates in Chris Potter Underground are natural born killers, and.....no bassist.


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    I must dig out that transcription of him I did

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmic gumbo View Post
    Adam is one of those players that I enjoy as a contributing sideman as much as with his own groups. He and fellow band mates in Chris Potter Underground are natural born killers, and.....no bassist.


    I love everything about this......especially Adam's tone. I've always felt that the Strat was a way to go with even a more bop approach.
    Adam and Uffe Steen get such a great sound.

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    Adam must have got a kick out of being included in this recently painted mural dedicated to John Coltrane who would have celebrated his birthday today (it's mine too, as it happens). AR was part of a commemorative project along with Ravi Coltrane and Matthew Garrison:

    A New Mural Pays Tribute to John Coltrane in Philadelphia | Open Culture

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    Quote Originally Posted by PMB View Post
    Adam must have got a kick out of being included in this recently painted mural dedicated to John Coltrane who would have celebrated his birthday today (it's mine too, as it happens). AR was part of a commemorative project along with Ravi Coltrane and Matthew Garrison:

    A New Mural Pays Tribute to John Coltrane in Philadelphia | Open Culture
    that's sweet. Is adam from philly? And that birthdate is cool, mine is on jimi's birthday which is also cool but yours is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jzucker View Post
    that's sweet. Is adam from philly? And that birthdate is cool, mine is on jimi's birthday which is also cool but yours is better.
    Adam's a New Yorker but he's worked quite a bit with Ravi Coltrane.

    Strangely enough, my daughter was born on July 17, the day Coltrane died. There seems to be a disproportionate number of musicians that share my birthday, including Ray Charles, Roy Buchanan and Bruce Springsteen. I wouldn't knock back Jimi though!
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    Some recent pro-shot video of Rogers with Ravi Coltrane:


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    Quote Originally Posted by David B View Post
    Some recent pro-shot video of Rogers with Ravi Coltrane:


    nice clip...but sad too, tho...that players of that calibre are "immortalized" playing in the back of small bookstore type joints..and reading off charts...


    took years for the classic john coltrane quartet to develop complete heart/soul simpatico...w elvin, tyner, garrison...

    different days

    & btw, for those that may want to hear ravi coltrane in a very adventurous mode..check out- in movement

    his 2016 ecm recording with the great jack dejohnette...prime stuff





    cheers
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    Haha. Yeah, but that's the NPR tiny desk broadcast, intentionally done that way for intimacy among other reasons. The broadcast is nation wide, so...

    Those guys play in lots and lots of jazz joints and festivals. Not that it's Taylor Swift time or anything, but that ain't anything new. That really started in the 60s.

    Blame Elvis, and then Lennon/McCartney. After that, Katie bar the door...
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    yeah i get ya.. (why i wrote "immortalized")...but still lacks the power of say, john coltrane at newport!!!

    tiny desk schtick works for huge bands..playing in small quarters..intimate...but for most jazz groups these days..its not that far from the truth..any irony is lost

    stick'em in a huge stadium, npr!!

    haha

    cheers
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    sadder still is the fact that many of these cats can't get health insurance.

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    He’s really driving the time on Impressions.

    Wonderful command and control of the music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jzucker View Post
    i get jimi and caroline kennedy
    ... and Bruce Lee!

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    Not my upload. Just found it online again.

    Michael Brecker, Adam Rogers, Larry Goldings, Bill Stewart - Ronnie Scott's, 2000.
    1. Arc of the Pendulum
    2. Sound Off
    3. Timeline

    http://www20.zippyshare.com/v/25102034/file.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by jzucker View Post
    sadder still is the fact that many of these cats can't get health insurance.

    why not? i thought that it was available now?

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    Some pro-shot video of John Patitucci's electric guitar quartet with Adam Rogers and Steve Cardenas.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jzucker View Post
    that's sweet. Is adam from philly? And that birthdate is cool, mine is on jimi's birthday which is also cool but yours is better.
    He's from New York. I stumbled on this a recently, which gives a lot of insight into his evolution as a musician.



    I saw him with Brecker, Larry Goldings, and Idris Muhammed. Amazing group, and my first exposure to Adam Rogers. I ran into him a few months ago at Guitar Center (he was checking out an old 345) and introduced myself and chatted for a while. He's a very friendly, pleasant guy.

    The only album of his I have is Time and the Infinite. It's in many ways an amazing record. But, like Brecker, he throws an awful lot of intensity and information at you, and you have to be in the right frame of mind for it. It's definitely not background music or lullaby. I can't speak to whether he's the best around right now, or one of the greatest in history or anything like that. There are people who play with less technical ability and versatility, who nevertheless move people, which (to me anyway) makes it impossible to rank musicians. I would shift the rubric a little and say he's probably the closest thing to the Michael Brecker of the guitar. To my ears, he's a true heir to Brecker's aesthetic and technical prowess.

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    I didn't realize Brad Hamilton could make such amazing music.

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    Just bumping this one. Adam and his music haven't come up much recently. I just discovered a couple of recent releases he's on that didn't get any attention on this forum.

    Fima Ephron - 'Songs from the Tree' - Fima Ephron
    It's the Chris Potter Underground lineup + Kevin Hays on keys, with David Torn contributing loops to one tune.

    Jeff Herr Corporation - 'Manifesto'
    Manifesto — Igloo Records
    Manifesto by Jeff Herr Corporation on Spotify

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    I love Adam Rogers, been following him closely for a while.

    Help me with with this - in the archive.org recording someone posted, I can hear him clearly playing sixteenth notes at 24:20, but he kicks into hyperdrive at 24:35 - what is going on here rhythmically?

    thanks,

    Charlie

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    Quote Originally Posted by crhyner View Post
    I love Adam Rogers, been following him closely for a while.

    Help me with with this - in the archive.org recording someone posted, I can hear him clearly playing sixteenth notes at 24:20, but he kicks into hyperdrive at 24:35 - what is going on here rhythmically?

    thanks,

    Charlie
    He plays fluidly through lines that shift their phrasing between three and four notes per beat setting up to the faster part which sounds to me like six notes per beat (maybe nine per beat in a few places) with parts articulated different ways to keep it interesting. One of those articulations sounds like rhythmically accenting the 1st and 4th of the six notes per beat - have to transcribe it to know more. But speculating, he might be switching between picking two or three notes per string, or switching between long and short fret span fingerings, or similar fingering and picking differences to mechanically shift the feel of the articulations. Those fastest burst speeds have the sound of legato fingering and economy picking to me, which allow the continuation of note accent at high speed.
    "Bent my ear to hear the tune and closed my eyes to see."

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    Quote Originally Posted by crhyner View Post
    I love Adam Rogers, been following him closely for a while.

    Help me with with this - in the archive.org recording someone posted, I can hear him clearly playing sixteenth notes at 24:20, but he kicks into hyperdrive at 24:35 - what is going on here rhythmically?

    thanks,

    Charlie
    I think the 24:20 bit is eighth note triplet time base - played in melodic accent groupings of 4, (so they convey 16ths feel). Then, 16ths on the faster bits following? The 8th triplets have double time notes as well (or sixteenth triplets)here and there...

    There's a ton of accent displacement throughout all of this. Pretty difficult to hear, for me anyway. Anyway, I listened to a ton of Keith Jarrett, and he's always doing this kind of stuff. Jazzers rarely seem to play triplets where they accent the first triplet over and over. Rogers is doing a lot of accenting everysecond or third triplet in the part proceeding this (rather than the 1st triplet). Those are little easier to hear, because it's at least still groupings of 3, but once it goes to accent groupings of FOUR, they're pretty hard to distinguish.

    My 2c...

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt.guitarteacher View Post
    I think the 24:20 bit is eighth note triplet time base - played in melodic accent groupings of 4, (so they convey 16ths feel). Then, 16ths on the faster bits following? The 8th triplets have double time notes as well (or sixteenth triplets)here and there...

    There's a ton of accent displacement throughout all of this. Pretty difficult to hear, for me anyway. Anyway, I listened to a ton of Keith Jarrett, and he's always doing this kind of stuff. Jazzers rarely seem to play triplets where they accent the first triplet over and over. Rogers is doing a lot of accenting everysecond or third triplet in the part proceeding this (rather than the 1st triplet). Those are little easier to hear, because it's at least still groupings of 3, but once it goes to accent groupings of FOUR, they're pretty hard to distinguish.

    My 2c...
    I think this is a good insight.