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    I thought it was time to gather up some of the Barry Harris stuff that is spread out all over the place. Here's a link to a youtube channel with lots of great material: https://www.youtube.com/user/BarryHarrisVideos/videos

    David B posted this in another thread, and I'm sure he won't mind:

    "Just collating in one post here the various materials available from Barry Harris and his students:

    Barry Harris 4DVD/book set (1): The Barry Harris Workshop Video ? Howard Rees' Jazz Workshops
    Barry Harris 4DVD/book set (2): The Barry Harris Workshop Video Part 2 ? Howard Rees' Jazz Workshops

    'The Barry Harris Harmonic Method for Guitar' by Alan Kingstone: The Barry Harris Harmonic Method for Guitar ? Howard Rees' Jazz Workshops

    'Talk Jazz Guitar' by Roni Ben-Hur: Roni Ben-Hur - Talk Jazz: Guitar

    'Chordability' DVD by Roni Ben-Hur: Roni Ben-Hur - Chordability

    Pasquale Grasso's four video lessons at www.mymusicmasterclass.com : https://www.mymusicmasterclass.com/a...squale-grasso/

    Roni Ben-Hur's two 'Anatomy of a Tune' video lessons at Mike's Master Classes:
    'How High the Moon' : Anatomy of a Tune - Be-bop Style | Lesson by Roni Ben-Hur | Mike's Master Classes
    'Confirmation' : Confirmation | Lesson by Roni Ben-Hur | Mike's Master Classes "


    It would be awesome if some of the other members here who have posted on this stuff would copy and paste it here. I know there's a couple really good posts and videos on here somewhere...but it would be tough for me to go track them all down (hence the reason for this thread).

    Here's my meager contribution from that other thread:


    Hope this thread turns out to be a helpful one for people trying to get a basic idea before purchasing some of the study materials, and a good place to ask questions.
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    Thanks, Joe!

    This could become a rich resource for, um, All Things Barry Harris.

    As you say, there's a lot about Barry's approach on this site already but it isn't always easy to locate (because it so often comes up on, say, page 3 of a thread about something else.)
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    Are there any free resources that start from zero? Not necessarily a full-on course, but maybe an overview?
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    Not that I can think of, Joe. The subject is huge. Any specific questions? Eventually I could see this thread evolving into something like that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Joe View Post
    Are there any free resources that start from zero? Not necessarily a full-on course, but maybe an overview?
    That's my problem, too. Maybe someone can write some lessons for this site.
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    I would love to do it. I have a good understanding of it; it's just that there are people on here with so much more experience than me that could do a better job. I just like publicizing this stuff because I genuinely wish I had found it sooner
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    This may be a helpful introduction

    Barry Harris's Sixth Diminished Scale | Cochrane Music
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Joe View Post
    Are there any free resources that start from zero? Not necessarily a full-on course, but maybe an overview?
    Not free, but there's a 26 page pdf available for $15 through Barry's site that gives a good overview with plenty to get you started: The Official Barry Harris Website for Jazz Education and Information

    On the chordal side of things, the late Rick Stone had a couple of articles on the sixth diminished scales in Just Jazz Guitar magazine. At one time they were freely available from his website but the only place I can find them now is on Scribd (which I'm loathe to link to but it's the only obvious source for now):
    https://www.scribd.com/document/1368...ris-Rick-Stone
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    https://www.scribd.com/document/2069...shed-Scale-pdf
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    Assorted bits of Barry Harris from around the Internet. (I'll post them one at a time.)


    "Who did they ask how to teach at these colleges? That's what's wrong."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8JJncSUdUU
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    Barry performing with his trio, 1976.

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    The 6th dim scale seems to be what people most commonly know a little bit about. In the material I have, it is mentioned as a tool for single lines, but is primarily a harmonic device, e.g. one of my favorites is playing it in contrary motion while "filling in" the middle voices as the outers spread. Sometimes it just seems like people learn the 6th dim scale and think that's all there is to it and everything else is based off that. The single note stuff is actually focused on mainly other stuff. Just wanted to put that out there
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    Barry teaches feeling the 'and'. The relation of dance to jazz.

    "The golden age has passed. We are in the dark ages."

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe2758 View Post
    I would love to do it. I have a good understanding of it; it's just that there are people on here with so much more experience than me that could do a better job. I just like publicizing this stuff because I genuinely wish I had found it sooner
    Joe, don't let that stop you. I'm curious about it and would love to see an overview. I'm sure others will chime in if they feel moved to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David B View Post
    On the chordal side of things, the late Rick Stone had a couple of articles on the sixth diminished scales in Just Jazz Guitar magazine. At one time they were freely available from his website but the only place I can find them now is on Scribd (which I'm loathe to link to but it's the only obvious source for now):
    https://www.scribd.com/document/1368...ris-Rick-Stone
    and
    https://www.scribd.com/document/2069...shed-Scale-pdf
    I found these a while ago on the Internet Archive of Rick's site:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20110921...m/lessons.html

    Scroll to the bottom of the page (there are links to a series he wrote on chord construction as well).
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonnerj View Post
    I found these a while ago on the Internet Archive of Rick's site:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20110921...m/lessons.html

    Scroll to the bottom of the page (there are links to a series he wrote on chord construction as well).

    Great! I made copies of two of those articles some years ago and have kept them since. (Can't say I delved deeply into the subject but I knew it was something I'd want to come back to.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonnerj View Post
    I found these a while ago on the Internet Archive of Rick's site:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20110921...m/lessons.html

    Scroll to the bottom of the page (there are links to a series he wrote on chord construction as well).
    Awesome! Exactly what I'm looking for!
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    My copy of the workshop DVD was supposed to arrive today (Thursday, 13 October 2016) but did not. Tracking info has not been updated since Sunday AM. Maybe tomorrow....
    "Learn the repertoire. It’s all in the songs. If you learn 200 songs, you will have no problem improvising."
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    Well, I received "talk jazz guitar", the Roni Ben-Hur BH single-line equivalent, while I was out of town, this week. So, count me in among the curious.

    Peer pressure..... :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt.guitarteacher View Post
    Well, I received "talk jazz guitar", the Roni Ben-Hur BH single-line equivalent, while I was out of town, this week. So, count me in among the curious.

    Peer pressure..... :-)
    I've been going over that while waiting for the Barry Harris DVDs to arrive. The CD for Roni's book arrived broken and he kindly supplied me with the sound files via dropbox but I have no idea what became of them---I've never heard a single example from that book played. But it's straightforward enough material...
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    I want to work on an overview for you guys. I'll do a little at a time since I tend to start projects and not finish...this way I'll let least have contributed something.
    Scale practice or "the ABC's"

    1. The chord built on the 5th of a dominant chord (the ii in a ii-V-I) is referred to as the "important minor" of that dominant chord. For single note soloing the important minor is ignored and a dominant scale (mixolydian) is played over the ii and V. G7 dominant scale over Cm7-G7.

    2. A two bar phrase is created by playing a major or dominant scale from the tonic to 7th back down to the tonic. That's called playing the scale "Up and down."

    3. Scales should be practiced in 3rds: Do Mi Re Fa Mi Sol etc
    Starting a half step below each 3rd: Ti Do Mi Di Re Fa Ri Mi Sol etc
    In triads: Do Mi Sol Re Fa La Mi Sol Ti etc
    Triads with half step below first note, 4 note chords (arpeggios), 4 note chords with half step below first note.

    4. There are 3 important arpeggios to master inside and out in all inversions within the dominant scale: Built off the tonic, the 5th, and 7th.

    5. Start adding melodic leaps by use of pivoting. Just octave displacement...I don't think I need to explain that. He talks about how the piano seemingly has such a huge range that allows for these long flowing lines, but even an instrument with a short range can play the same phrases by the use of good pivoting.


    So that's like not even half the "ABC's" from the first dvd set. The stuff is as dense as could be. Mastering just the above on all guitar positions could be years of work for some people
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    Awesome stuff, Joe! Point of clarification - you say the dominant scale is the mixolydian, but there should be an extra note in there, right? The "bebop dominant" scale I learned by way of David Baker has it between the b7 and the R. Is that the case here as well?
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    Not yet Joe, that comes later.

    edit: Baker's Bebop scale would be referred to as a dominant scale with an added note
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    OK, thanks.
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    Scale practice or "the ABC's" Cont.

    1. Practice major arps down chromatically in all inversions; this is actually super easy and natural to do on guitar.
    Do Sol Mi Do then half step down to next arp Do Mi Sol Do then half step down to next arp Do Sol Mi Do. etc... including inversions.

    2. "The Harris Half-step Practice Model": It's about rhythm. Major and minor have different suggested added notes, but the idea is the same (and when it comes down to it, the added note can be any note). A descending dominant scale from tonic to tonic should have 1 extra note (suggested between 8-b7 like BostonJoe said). Starting on 9th to tonic (he says 2, but I think 9th is clearer) can have no extra notes or two extra notes (between 9-8 and 8-b7). Starting on odd numbered degrees gets 1 extra note, even numbered degrees get 0 or 2 extra notes.

    3. Various rules for adding triplets and intervals to the above descending runs.

    4. The chromatic scale breaks down to two whole tone scales. 3 diminished chords are created by taking two notes from each whole tone scale. There are 4 dominant 7th chords related to each diminished chord
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe2758 View Post
    Scale practice or "the ABC's" Cont.

    1. Practice major arps down chromatically in all inversions; this is actually super easy and natural to do on guitar.
    Do Sol Mi Do then half step down to next arp Do Mi Sol Do then half step down to next arp Do Sol Mi Do. etc... including inversions.

    2. "The Harris Half-step Practice Model": It's about rhythm. Major and minor have different suggested added notes, but the idea is the same (and when it comes down to it, the added note can be any note). A descending dominant scale from tonic to tonic should have 1 extra note (suggested between 8-b7 like BostonJoe said). Starting on 9th to tonic (he says 2, but I think 9th is clearer) can have no extra notes or two extra notes (between 9-8 and 8-b7). Starting on odd numbered degrees gets 1 extra note, even numbered degrees get 0 or 2 extra notes.

    3. Various rules for adding triplets and intervals to the above descending runs.

    4. The chromatic scale breaks down to two whole tone scales. 3 diminished chords are created by taking two notes from each whole tone scale. There are 4 dominant 7th chords related to each diminished chord
    For #2, if you call the 2nd a 9th then is it treated as even for purposes of the 1 or 0-2 extra notes? This may be why he called 2nd.

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    Good point Bobby! Stick with what Barry says, but just know we're talking about notes extending past the octave
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Joe View Post
    Awesome stuff, Joe! Point of clarification - you say the dominant scale is the mixolydian, but there should be an extra note in there, right? The "bebop dominant" scale I learned by way of David Baker has it between the b7 and the R. Is that the case here as well?
    Also, note, rhythmically, what's happening. If you play up to the seventh and back, rhythmically, you end up where you want to be anyway. It would be different if you were descending root to root.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe2758 View Post

    3. Scales should be practiced in 3rds: Do Mi Re Fa Mi Sol etc
    Starting a half step below each 3rd: Ti Do Mi Di Re Fa Ri Mi Sol etc
    In triads: Do Mi Sol Re Fa La Mi Sol Ti etc
    I haven't learned solfege----is that how Barry teaches this? Guess I should download a chart and memorize these terms. Is "Di" a raised One (or flat-second)?
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    No he doesn't use solfege, sorry Mark. That's how I think. Di #1, ra b2, me b3, fi #4, se b5, si #5, le b6, te b7 should give you the idea. The work book is in musical notation, and when he speaks he says things like "tonic, second, third, flat three" etc
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    By the way I wouldn't suggest anyone get the DVD set without the workbook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A. Kingstone View Post
    Here are some articles from Keyboard Magazine by Howard Rees...
    Glad you're here, Alan. I think you've spent more time with Barry than anyone else here has, plus you literally wrote the book on applying Barry's method to the guitar.

    Jazz School Online - Harmonic Method - Guitar

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkRhodes View Post
    Glad you're here, Alan. I think you've spent more time with Barry than anyone else here has, plus you literally wrote the book on applying Barry's method to the guitar.

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    Thanks Mark. For improvisation though Howard's products are the best in my opinion. I hope your copy arrives soon.

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    Yay! Workshop DVDs and book arrived today. (Saturday 14 October, 2016)
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    Poor internet connection where I am today but I'll upload a video on 'Indiana' a la Barry tomorrow morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe2758 View Post
    By the way I wouldn't suggest anyone get the DVD set without the workbook.
    I agree. Curiously, I saw someone offering the book alone---no DVDs---for $50 online. Just shook my head at that.
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    omg I just wrote a whole 3rd part to end the overview of the ABCs and I lost the friggin thing.

    oh well. I look forward to hearing what Mark thinks and seeing David's lesson
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    The first "basic" to give me pause was the thirds-with-a-half-step-added. That was a new one on me. It's taking a little time to get it smooth but I hear the value of it and realize this was something I didn't already know (-or hadn't learned to play at will), so I'm better off than I was before starting this. ;o)
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    Right on, Mark. What really set off the ABCs for me was when I started adding in slurs. I started with a basic self imposed "rule": Any time I can conveniently do a hammer on or a pull off in the position I'm working in and is an "and" going to a down beat, I do it. Usually ends up being just a couple of slurs in either direction...really set it off for me.
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    Here's my scale "road map" for Indiana (in F). Video (in which I talk through this) uploading now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David B View Post
    Here's my scale "road map" for Indiana (in F). Video (in which I talk through this) uploading now.
    Thanks, David! I'll print this and put in my fast-growing Barry Harris folder.
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    Here's 20+ minutes of me talking through the progression of 'Indiana'. Unfortunately the camera died whilst I talked through the final four bars of the tune, but they're easy enough to analyse!

    I'm not holding out myself as an expert on any of this material or a strong player. We're all learning this together. In fact, I'd never looked at the tune 'Indiana' before posting that I would do a video, so it forced me to sit down and do some work!



    EDIT: I should add that the video is set to 'unlisted' so can only viewed through this forum thread.
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    Last edited by David B; 10-18-2016 at 07:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David B View Post
    Here's 20+ minutes of me talking through the progression of 'Indiana'. Unfortunately the camera died whilst I talked through the final four bars of the tune, but they're easy enough to analyse!
    Thanks, David! I appreciate you taking the time to walk us through that.
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    Thanks David! I look forward to watching that tonight. This thread is off to a great start imo
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    I take it that one should do this exercise---seeing which scales (in Barry's sense of the term) go with the chords of a standard progression---for other tunes. Blues and rhythm changes would be good starting points, I guess. (They may be done on the Workshop DVDs----I'm deliberately going no further with the DVD than I have gotten with "The Basics", and that's not very far yet.)
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    that's literally exactly what he goes on to do, Mark!
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe2758 View Post
    that's literally exactly what he goes on to do, Mark!
    Great! I'll get there...eventually. (I'm in no rush to get there. All my rushing to get ahead with the guitar has made me waste a lot more time later going back and getting things I rushed past right.)
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    Still working on chapter one, the basics. I'll be there the rest of the month, maybe into next month.
    "Learn the repertoire. It’s all in the songs. If you learn 200 songs, you will have no problem improvising."
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