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Originally Posted by Christian Miller
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07-25-2024 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by charlieparker
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There, finished it
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Alright. I have not given this up, and plan to continue. I was out of town, then my wife was out of town, then a busy week, then a (very mild) case of COVID, and here I am.
We will resume.
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Originally Posted by pamosmusic
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In between low back pain, I've been trying out some the changes Christian explicated in his video for Lester Leaps In.
Basically just used the major pentatonic over the A-section. I know it's painfully slow and the comping is shaky but thought I would share anyways.
Soloing over Lester Leaps In 80 bpm
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Blinking heck everyone’s in the wars
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Originally Posted by pamosmusic
In fact, it's what makes the whole tune special, so I feel it's worth splitting at least that one bar into IV to iv, some (if not most ) of the time.
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Originally Posted by princeplanet
Barry Harris just had IV7 there for a bar.
If you like the Gb there, put it there.
I play it a lot less than I used to.
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Originally Posted by Christian Miller
Same goes if I just keep it to Eb6, or Ebm6 for that bar, misses that special sauce, or something. Screw being "modern" (hehe), I mean, the tune was written 90 years ago FFS!
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Originally Posted by princeplanet
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Originally Posted by Christian Miller
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Originally Posted by pcjazz
Speaking of blues - it's the same thing, you have the IV chord, how you get back to I (or iii) is a free choice.
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Originally Posted by Christian Miller
Would you say IV7 throughout that bar was a common Bop thing? And at what slower tempo does it not work so well?
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Originally Posted by princeplanet
For a rhythm changes you only have time to run it one way. So if I was doing Eo7 I’d just run it down from the 7th
Db C Bb Ab G F E
And then go out from there into lines
It’s a bebop thing, you see all three things.
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Originally Posted by Christian Miller
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Originally Posted by CliffR
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this is one of my total favourites - both this rhythm head and the whole glorious album
I hope it's not just me.... (it's a recognised classic - yes?) I hope so.
this is years before he made his 'seminal' records - and I almost love this more than those.
and he certainly deals with two chords in a single bar - at any tempo you'd like to pick. he is gone from his starting point almost before he gets to it.
of course you might not play the VI7 at all - or only once. the point is, it's there to be played and it's good that it's there to be played.
old man trouble - I don't mind himLast edited by Groyniad; 09-25-2024 at 02:47 PM.
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Can anyone recommend any classic guitar solos over rhythm changes to look at for vocab?
I've only found Wes' Cotton Tail and it's not my favorite work of his.
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I feel you about Cotton Tail.
Joe Pass/Herb Ellis -- Seven Come Eleven off Two For the Road. A sections are an Ab vamp.
Cecil Alexander off Youtube - Rhythm Changes at 20 MPH (life in the slow lane)
Ulf Walkaneous (sp?) Off youtube -Ulf Wakenius plays Rhythm Changes-In the Style of Oscar Peterson-Michael Brecker-George Benson (don't have to play it at tempo to be good for language)
Koichi Hirata - Anthopology harder to search so here's the link: http://https://youtu.be/3Og9kY3Fr88?si=IOI9jbvrQGly9mKk
Honestly, none of my fave Rhythm solos are played by guitarists.
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Oh good point. Jim Hall on Seven Come Eleven too. Same with Stompin At the Savoy from the same record. Very much a Db tonic vamp on the first four of the A, then IV to V on the last four. So a lot of overlap with rhythm changes. Also back cycling dominants on both the bridges, though not starting on the III.
I’ve transcribed both of these and posted them on this thread:
Jim Hall “Jazz Guitar”
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Room 608 by Horace Silver is an excellent rhythm changes tune (with an altered bridge that moves through ii-vs in Eb then Gb major). There's lots of vocab in the head alone and Billy Bean's incredible solo from the version on Makin' It Again with John Pisano on 2nd guitar is definitely worth checking out for ideas. Billy takes the first break at 0'33":
There's also Billy's solo over the Walter Norris tune, Scramble:
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