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    Here is a guide to tube brands: what is made where. EHX and Tung-Sol are both made by New Sensor in Russia, for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litterick
    Here is a guide to tube brands: what is made where. EHX and Tung-Sol are both made by New Sensor in Russia, for example.
    Yup. Which is interesting, as the EHX and TS tubes do not look, or sound, identical. They are closer in sound to each other than they are to Sovtek or JJ, but they are not the same tubes simply being rebranded. At least not all the tube models (EHX/TS).

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    So what about the strange, neo-modern valve-like thing used in that Vox amp that was discussed here a few weeks back, where does it fit in?

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    … sometimes valves are places into amps or pedals as hype… there are real mini high spec valves out, that are hit with enough juice to have a true valve thing happen… not sure about the mentioned above vox. I do know that vox as a brand has played the hype game in the past.

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    i 've played a few thousand gigs over about 30 years.. Maybe 70% of them tubes, the other 30% analog solid state amps, or going direct with an analog or multi effects amp sim. Some amps rotate, some I've had for decades. I've had a Boogie blow a fuse once before the gig, a Henriksen dying on the last tune, and a Zt Lunchbox reverb blow its speaker. That's about it for amp problems. Tube amps have been more reliable for me.

    But i take care of the gear. It travels in car seats, stays away from dust and humidity, if i know we have to drive far or play next to the sea i won't be using a vintage amp, etc. I also have a good technician check the amps every few years, or if i get any funky sounds.

    I haven't had that good luck with new JJs. Usually they 'll be replacing old tubes, or tubes selected from the manufacturer for an expensive amp, so i would always prefer how the amp sounded with the old tubes. I have even sold an amp cause i couldn't make it sound as good with new tubes..!

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    I hope this Western Electric thing works out, but they ain't gonna be cheap...


    (Just seeing the name "Lord Valve" had me close to vomiting.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruger9
    JJ for durability, EHX and Tung-Sol for tone.

    NOS for REAL tone, if you can afford it (I no longer can, with the exception of an NOS AT7 or 5AR4 or 12DW7 here and there for my home amps...)
    This. My experience to a T. JJ power tubes last longer than preamps, Tung-Sol's sound better, but crap out unexpectedly. TADs are similar.

    Is there a problem procuring JJs now? I haven't needed any lately.

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    I hope this Western Electric thing works out, but they ain't gonna be cheap...


    (Just seeing the name "Lord Valve" had me close to vomiting.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SandChannel
    Geez. He took that Biden win particularly hard...
    He probably refused the Covid vaccine and then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy In Lyon
    He probably refused the Covid vaccine and then...
    From what I read on the interwebs, he died from cancer not COVID. Let's not make unsupported assumptions or aspersions. I found the guy's online conduct reprehensible, but he was still a person and deserving of accuracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cunamara
    From what I read on the interwebs, he died from cancer not COVID. Let's not make unsupported assumptions or aspersions. I found the guy's online conduct reprehensible, but he was still a person and deserving of accuracy.
    I'll never understand why some people find joy in other's misfortunes, I don't care what side of the aisle you come from. He wasn't Hitler. Not defending whatever his political positions were, just saying that the hatred that has been purposely bred (and willfully carried by those who continue spewing it) turns my stomach and is the biggest reason the world is in the shape it's in.

    Save that level of hatred for the child abusers and kiddie porn people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo58
    When this became public last year, they (WestElec) ran an article and a poll. They are targeting the guitar market, and want to know what types beyond 12ax7 players want.

    The prices will obviously be higher than Chinese, Russian, or Czech tubes. The intention, though, was to avoid astronomical prices. WE expanded several years ago, and this was part of the plan.

    The prices listed earlier are for 300B triodes, generally considered the finest and most linear Hi-Fi output tube ever made. The people with stereos that require them wouldn’t blink at the price. The tungsten used allegedly comes from a stock produced in 1961 or thereabouts, as apparently it is no longer possible to legally refine tungsten to the required quality.

    There have been a number of attempts to restart western tube manufacturing, most recently in England ten years ago. All disappeared without a trace. WE is the first that can be taken seriously, since they already do it and are the only manufacturer in the world that actually has equipment that wasn’t built in the 1950s. The last time I was on their site (>10y ago) they still manufactured specialized miniature (Noval)preamp tubes for Hi-Fi. They seem to have restricted it to the 300B now.

    But we’ll see. $70 for a preamp tube is ok, if the quality is good, factored over the life of a preamp tube. In my opinion. I wouldn’t use one as a tremolo oscillator. Input tube, definitely; that might be enough.


    As far as Lord Valve (I think his name was Willie) goes; it helped to view him as a comedian. If you want to read stuff from an old guy who has been at it for decades, knows pretty much everything there is to know, and isn’t a curmudgeon, you want PRR over at the Hoffman forum (el34world)

    Steven
    Yeah, as much as I hated the way he destroyed that NG, he could write really well, and should have been a comedy writer for some TV show.
    He also liked hounds, and a man hath no greater love than his love for his hound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgcim
    He also liked hounds, and a man hath no greater love than his love for his hound.
    Guess that confirms it then, I'm not a (real) man

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    I think at the end of the day, the new 'Western Electric' has been in business over 20 years, and they make 1 tube that costs ~$700. I'd LOVE to see affordable tubes that guitar amps actually use from these guys, but my gut says it will be at least another 5-10 years and the prices will be well over $100 each.

    I'm happy to wait and see what happens because my ToneMaster Twin has been perfect for every thing I've thrown at it so far, so I can leave my tube amps home and play them at living room volume probably until I die with the tubes they have in them now.

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    You can make any amp sound pretty darn good if you play your guitar well while plugged into it. If you focus on the most important thing, everything else becomes less and less significant. I like tube amps and SS. Ponder for a moment on what it must be like for 99% of piano players who are paired with a whole new instrument every time they walk into a different building. If you think you need $1500 of specific tubes, you might be taking yourself a bit too seriously or have lost focus of the most important thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJVB
    Guess that confirms it then, I'm not a (real) man
    That's too bad, we had the pleasure of having a French scent hound, the Briquet Griffon Vendeen, imported from France years ago to NY.
    The Griffons Vendeen (there are four versions of them) are known as "The Friendly Breed", and sure enough, the pup had the workers at JFK in love with him within minutes.
    When you own a hound, you become part of their pack for the rest of their lives, and he was part of our family for twelve wonderful years.

    As they say about marriage, "If you want love, go out and buy a dog (preferably a Briquet)"

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    We have a Stabijhond and 3 cats. I tried to buy into the dog kool-aid but I'm definitely a cat person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJVB
    We have a Stabijhond and 3 cats. I tried to buy into the dog kool-aid but I'm definitely a cat person.
    Don't you get along with your Stabijhond?
    I'm sure he's a much more enjoyable conversationalist than your cats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJVB
    We have a Stabijhond and 3 cats. I tried to buy into the dog kool-aid but I'm definitely a cat person.
    Ditto. I have lived with a Golden Retriever, a Chow-chow and a Siberian Husky. I have gotten along well with them all, but I way prefer cats. Send this to Lord Valve...-img_0122-jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stringswinger
    Ditto. I have lived with a Golden Retriever, a Chow-chow and a Siberian Husky. I have gotten along well with them all, but I way prefer cats. Send this to Lord Valve...-img_0122-jpg
    Cats are too aloof for me. Could you imagine playing a hand of Poker with three cats?
    Chows can be tough dogs. You one mean hombre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cunamara
    ....... I found the guy's online conduct reprehensible, but he was still a person and deserving of accuracy.
    I feel the same way for both halves of the statements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgcim
    Don't you get along with your Stabijhond?
    I'm sure he's a much more enjoyable conversationalist than your cats.
    She is too high maintenance, attention seeking (at times) and smelly to my taste, constantly triggers my "don't do onto others" reflex with her barking and getting in my way when I'm cooking in hopes of catching a scrap or drop. You can't even really play with her because all that interests here is chewing her toys. One of my cats is actually better at bringing back the toy du moment so I can throw it again. There has been some research showing that not all people can read cats, but I think I'm quite good at that - and my cats are very good at letting me know exactly what they want. I know cats are probably more intelligent than dogs (as far as you can compare their intellects) but seeing them too clever things or responding to commands is still more enjoyable for me (I love it when they actually complain while obeying a no command). Of course I don't really expect empathy from them but I've yet to discover traces of actual empathy in out dog too...

    Not to mention that my cats will help me fall asleep, whereas the dog would keep me awake with her incessant movements

    Heh, the dog was about 4 months old when we found our youngest cat, then hardly 1 month old. She adopted her despite her young age (more as a toy/playmate maybe) and the kitten was perfectly happy about that. But reaching adulthood she "weaned" the dog when she didn't really change her behaviour. She still tolerates the invasive dog affection (if that's what it is) where the other 2 cats don't but she'll never go seek out her former playmate (except maybe when she's fast asleep).

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    If you can't tolerate a gentle breed like the Stabijhond, it's no use trying to convert you to the Griffons Vendeen.
    Even a French trombonist I used to play with drew a complete blank every time I mentioned the GVs, so I guess they're familiar to only boar hunters.
    Perhaps the Stabijhond's Netherlands origin had an effect on their psyches. Exposure to all that second-hand cannabis smoke could've been passed down to their collective unconscious, resulting in a chemical imbalance that now permeates the breed.
    A good, canine psychopharmacologist might be able to able to put her on a special regimen that would make her more cat-like after a period of experimentation, but that's entirely up to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgcim
    Exposure to all that second-hand cannabis smoke could've been passed down to their collective unconscious, resulting in a chemical imbalance that now permeates the breed.
    Unlikely given that the breed is a rather rural breed from the east of the country. Since you mention boar hunting, if it'd been up to me we would have gotten a Cursinu (there's a breeder not far from me). Of course that might not have changed anything...