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I know next to nothing about modern amps so this is probably not useful to the discussion but I've gigged vintage Fender tube amps exclusively literally forever and only had a tube fail once and it was while practicing at home, a severely microphonic preamp tube. put a new one in no issues after. that being said I only use NOS tubes as they're much more reliable/long lasting than modern tubes.
now after typing all that, watch a tube fail on tonight's gig.....
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11-18-2022 04:26 PM
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You guys wanna know the other funny thing? A PRRI weighs 34 lbs, but a pine cabinet, hand-wired princeton reverb should only weigh about 27 lbs. My vintage 1964 Princeton reverb and headstrong lil king both weigh that much with alnico speakers.
You wanna know another thing? My Tungsten Crema Wheat (20w version of 5e3 deluxe) only weighs 24 lbs and is WAY louder than I could need for any gig.
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Originally Posted by nevershouldhavesoldit
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I just got this as my replacement or second amp. I like it a lot because it makes the eighth string sound very clear and balanced in the bass middle and upper registers. Not an easy thing to do. I prefer it to the twin or super deluxe reverb. Which I tried and got rid of. I intend to use it for recording and possibly playing out in small places solo guitar.
obviously, nothing beats the buscarino Chameleon amplification system that he just created in the last year.
The buscarino is hands-down, the best amp. I’ve never seen it discussed here or at least the new one anyway.. you could have one channel for your electric guitar and one channel for your nylon or acoustic guitar.
in any event, I really like the sound of the Princeton as well.
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Nav, how loud is it? Can it handle a loud drummer/ small gig?
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Originally Posted by omphalopsychos
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Originally Posted by Gitterbug
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Originally Posted by John A.
If I'm not mistaken, the Reverb News data are for unit volume, not revenue. As I recall, Fender and Marshall were the top selling amp brands by revenue in 2020 (the last year for which I've seen that level of industry data).
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Originally Posted by omphalopsychos
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Originally Posted by John A.
Seems like for most of us the Deluxe TM would offer the best bang for the buck. The Princeton seems geared toward people with a particular affection for the tube amp, but who want lighter and cheaper and more convenient.
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Originally Posted by nevershouldhavesoldit
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Originally Posted by jorgemg1984
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I suspect that most people consider Benson to be a “pop” musician. When he was just a jazzer, he was relatively unknown. Where did that ad run?
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Originally Posted by Woody Sound
100%. To be fair, GB always had a stereo set up, beset of both worlds. Fender and solid state, usually Polytone.
How many years ago when I was taking lessons, I just missed him. He showed up at my teacher’s house to pick up a Polytone amp he needed for a gig at the symphony center downtown. They had the Fender amp, but they didn’t have the Polytone. So GB drove from downtown all the way to Edgewater to make sure he had the right equipment for the gig.
It’s pretty easy to get a stereo set up, even for us minions. All you need is a. Lehle amp switcher pedal.
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Originally Posted by Woody Sound
Still, I don't think a Boogie, or a Dumble, equate to that amp - the cleans are too different. I was talking more about Fender cleans, small cab, high headroom. A 1x12 Pro Reverb in a a pricenton cab - plenty of "modders" and Fender custom builders do an amp like that, but Fender never did AFAIK (the Rivera Concert amps are more similar to Boogies and Dumbles than this amp).
This a very good example
Jazz 35 (Princeton Style) – Vintage Sound Amps
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Originally Posted by Gitterbug
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Originally Posted by jorgemg1984
There are some boutique builders on the shore, covering that (small) business of clean, powerful PR sized amps. But very expensive. Too expensive for me. Hence I had to build my own, based on a housing for a PR with 1x12 cutout from the aftermarket.
40W and 15kg with Neodym speaker, 17kg with conventional speaker.
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Originally Posted by bluenote61
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Originally Posted by jorgemg1984
Yes, I added a mid pot. The amp has no vibrato unit (Jazzers don't need one, or?), which enabled me to use the leftover 2 pot spaces for a mid pot and a master volume. (The titles on the faceplate are written in German, just a spleen. )
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Originally Posted by bluenote61
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Originally Posted by jorgemg1984
IMO, there is not so much difference in sound between both speakers. The Weber has more sparkle in the trebles, but I think this is not so important for archtop players.
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Originally Posted by bluenote61
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Originally Posted by omphalopsychos
https://www.fender.com/en-US/guitar-...279000000.html
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Originally Posted by omphalopsychos
https://www.fender.com/en-US/guitar-...279000000.html
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Real Twins, Deluxe and Princetons sound very different from each other, so probably the tonemaster ones sound different too. I think it's the amp name that mostly drives the sales. People want a Princeton, they'll look into a tonemaster princeton, etc..
With a real Princeton (the 65 variety - the 68 is more of a rock/blues amp), you can easily gig it if you change the speaker into something more effecient. I wonder how the tonemaster will be, in terms of clear headroom..
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