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Coming "reasonably soon" ...
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05-01-2022 03:26 PM
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Looks promising - and intriguing…
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Nice
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Ummmmm - it's missing a string, Jim
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Very nifty! Can't wait for your "full disclosure" on the new models/company!
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Watching this space with interest....
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Lookin good! (Just don't let Zucker see the scarf joint.)
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Originally Posted by Woody Sound
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Nothing wrong with a scarf joint, they result in a stronger neck and they waste a lot less wood. It's an issue as luthier grade wood supplies dwindle and increase in cost and environmental damage.
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Originally Posted by Cunamara
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Originally Posted by Cunamara
The problem with scarf joints is that each one is an interface, and therefore a mechanical impedance mismatch between components. The joint is never as solid or effective a vibration conductor as no joint, and any intervening adhesive or other material will act both as a vibration damper and a mechanical transformer. The efficiency of that transformer is determined by the physical characteristics of the adhesive, how it is integrated into the mating surfaces, and how the joint is designed (eg angles, number of steps etc).
String vibration energy is transferred to the body at the nut & bridge. The neck is functionally part of the body, since the two are theoretically a solid unit. Any discontinuity affects transmission of string energy and can affect the harmonic structure. Unless you find that the neck is irrelevant to this and they all sound alike, and/or you believe that bolt-on and neck-through sound alike (which many do hold as true), that scarf joint could affect the sound of the guitar, especially acoustically (and electrically, if you believe that the body affects what comes out of the pickups).
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Originally Posted by Cunamara
Originally Posted by Jim Soloway
Eager to see more as soon as there's more to show.
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Originally Posted by nevershouldhavesoldit
I dont think most luthiers has even seen a broken neck unless it was on one piece mahogny neck on gibson (or a copy)
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Well I see Jim S point about contentious Scarf Joint discussions and
SALES of a higher end guitar, Lol!
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Originally Posted by JohanAbrandt
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Originally Posted by jads57
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Jim,
that sounds like a reasonable understanding to me!
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Originally Posted by Jim Soloway
Anyhow, I am sure you can make a one piece strong enough to avoid warranty problems, and theres no denying that a one piece looks nice.
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Originally Posted by JohanAbrandt
And yes, a one-piece maple neck with a gentle title back is easily strong enough. We shipped about 350 of them and the only one that broke went down a full flight of stairs head first with no case.Last edited by Jim Soloway; 05-02-2022 at 06:18 PM.
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I was joking about the scarf neck (see the smiley) because JAZ has a thing about them.
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I agree with Jim. In fact, in today's climate I believe it is getting harder and harder to convince people that something they believe is correct is wrong.
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Originally Posted by Woody Sound
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Well, this is exciting.
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@nevershouldhavesoldit , I see reasoning to your point but can I just ask
String vibration energy is transferred to the body at the nut & bridge. The neck is functionally part of the body, since the two are theoretically a solid unit. Any discontinuity affects transmission of string energy and can affect the harmonic structure.
Would this only be an issue for notes whose terminal node points (bridge to nut) fall beyond the scarf location? Any fretted note from say 3rd fret up would not vibrate through the scarf?
I’ve also often wondered about the neck to body joins- making a perfectly fitting tapered dovetail is manually very hard. Lots of planes held by glue there. A bolt on neck relies in transmission through the bolts and any interference fit alone!
EMike
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