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    My Strat and Tele 50s vibe both labeled with "Squire" on them, now I have one that is labeled "Fender"


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    Quote Originally Posted by fep
    My Strat and Tele 50s vibe both labeled with "Squire" on them, now I have one that is labeled "Fender"
    Congrats Frank!

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    Mighty pretty guitar & playing! Congratulations, and play it in good health!

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    Way cool! Congrats! I just bought home a new Fender American Performer Tele myself (I liked it more than my Britt Daniel Thinline).

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    Quote Originally Posted by fep
    My Strat and Tele 50s vibe both labeled with "Squire" on them, now I have one that is labeled "Fender"

    Nice. How do the sounds on it compare to the corresponding ones on your actual strat and tele? What do you think of the noiseless pickups?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John A.
    Nice. How do the sounds on it compare to the corresponding ones on your actual strat and tele? What do you think of the noiseless pickups?
    I like them. That demo I did was in the all three pickup position, with the volume and treble all the way up. It has a 5-way selector, the 2nd position is bridge and middle and when you add the pull of the tone knob it adds the neck pickup (in position one with the treble pull knob you get bridge and neck).

    My strat and tele both have Fender gen4 noiseless on them so I can't make the noiseless to not-noiseless comparison. The new tele is sounding to my 50s vibe tele except for the additional strat pickup sound and combinations.

    And, the pickups are dead quiet which is a feature I wanted.
    Last edited by fep; 02-18-2022 at 07:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fep
    I like them. That demo I did was in the all three pickup position, with the volume and treble all the way up. It has a 5-way selector, the 2nd position is bridge and middle and when you add the pull of the tone knob it adds the neck pickup (in position one with the treble pull knob you get bridge and neck).

    My strat and tele both have Fender gen4 noiseless on them so I can't make the noiseless to not-noiseless comparison. The new tele is sounding to my 50s vibe tele except for the additional strat pickup sound and combinations.

    And, the pickups are dead quiet which is a feature I wanted.
    I really like the specs of this model - enough so that I'm actually thinking seriously of trading in my American Std strat for one. I'm going to try to find one to demo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John A.
    I really like the specs of this model - enough so that I'm actually thinking seriously of trading in my American Std strat for one. I'm going to try to find one to demo.
    Yes, for me this guitar pretty much checks all the boxes. I think it should be easy to find one to demo if you have access to guitar/music shops, they are pretty popular. Pay attention to the distance between the high e string and the edge of the neck, they're pretty close to the edge and some are too close for me. That was how I based the specific guitar/serial number I chose, based on pictures.
    Last edited by fep; 02-19-2022 at 04:27 PM.

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    I've been thinking about switching out the neck p/u on my Nashville tele (Alvarez clone) for a warmer, jazz tone (though I probably could live with the stock p/u). Any thoughts as to what would work?

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    I used to have one of these and it was really great. I really liked the pickups in the position between the neck and middle pickups. I found it was easy to get a really dark tone, as well.

    Mine had a really, really slim neck that would make my hand cramp up unfortunately.

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    Agree on the p/u position (neck+middle). Stock p/us sound pretty good but I have no comparison. Sounded better when I had it set up for 11s. The Alvarez AG4 Nashville Tele has a pretty beefy neck that I like. I've never been partial to thin necks even though I have rather small hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris32895
    I used to have one of these and it was really great. I really liked the pickups in the position between the neck and middle pickups. I found it was easy to get a really dark tone, as well.

    Mine had a really, really slim neck that would make my hand cramp up unfortunately.
    I’ve had one for a decade and rarely play it now due to the thin neck. It’s the only tele I’ve ever owned so I kinda just assumed that’s the way fender teles were made. Might have to go play some others

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    Well maybe the clones (Alvarez) were different. There's not much info on these as I suspect they didn't sell well. The little I have found suggest their neck profiles were definitely not thin.

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    Thread has diverged from p/u's to tele necks. I find it interesting how we define guitar necks in general. Thin to me means thin in depth. Wide and narrow reflect size at the nut. "Beefy" or "chunky" again refers (to me) to depth. I think there probably is a better way to describe neck depth- "C" or "D" shaped? Something else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ewall
    Thread has diverged from p/u's to tele necks. I find it interesting how we define guitar necks in general. Thin to me means thin in depth. Wide and narrow reflect size at the nut. "Beefy" or "chunky" again refers (to me) to depth. I think there probably is a better way to describe neck depth- "C" or "D" shaped? Something else?
    "Thin to me means thin in depth."

    I may be (probably am) misinformed about this, is there a general consensus on what exactly the term means?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbhrb
    I’ve had one for a decade and rarely play it now due to the thin neck. It’s the only tele I’ve ever owned so I kinda just assumed that’s the way fender teles were made. Might have to go play some others
    So, I bought the Player + Nashville Tele because I liked it all on paper but like I said the neck was too thin. Tele's have a huge range of neck thicknesses, in fact the original 50's had some of the biggest guitar necks out there. I went back and forth on a couple Tele models and settled on the cheaper Player Tele as they have slightly thicker necks (my P+ Nash tele was <= .79" depth on the 1st fret while my Player tele has ~ .84" on the 1st fret) which are pretty comfy to me. As a plus, the single coils they put on the Player telecasters are surprisingly good and I kept most of the instrument stock. I think Fender spec's the Player tele as .82" on the 1st fret but there can be some deviation so always try or ask for neck depth measurements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-7
    "Thin to me means thin in depth."

    I may be (probably am) misinformed about this, is there a general consensus on what exactly the term means?
    To me, when people say thin or thick when regarding the neck, I think of the depth of the neck, front to back, measured (preferably with calipers) from the face of the fretboard (not on the fret) to the back of the deepest part of the neck while the strings are off. Typically these measurements are taken at the 1st and 12th frets (on an acoustic or archtop a better place would be the 9th fret) and coupled with specs on the neck radius, nut width, and general neck profile should give any experienced guitar player a general idea of what the guitar will feel like in the fretting hand.