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Came across this thing, it might get you a bit closer to what JM was doing (it seems to let you do the freeze output with effects while the guitar signal is unchanged).
Superego+ | Synth Engine / Multi-Effects - Electro-Harmonix
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01-28-2022 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by grahambop
i wanted to know ....
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Originally Posted by grahambop
the smoothest one of the lot for just
holding a chord seems to be the freeze
the ‘acoustic’ demo of that was quite good
many thanks
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found this too
PLUS Pedal - Gamechanger Audio
i listened to the various demos
i don’t think a freeze fx pedal is quite
the sound i’m after
the mclaughlin thing is basically just
a midi hold pedal controlling a yamaha
synth with a gorgeous pad sound
programmed into it by john
maybe there’s no shortcuts to getting
that kinda sound ....Last edited by pingu; 01-28-2022 at 09:15 PM.
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Originally Posted by nevershouldhavesoldit
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Some people replace the footswitch in the Freeze with a non-latching switch (if I understand it correctly), I believe it makes it a lot easier to quickly turn the freeze on and off.
There have been some threads on it here.
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I have the Gamechanger plus which is an expensive but very nice alternative to the Freeze with some very helpful features. The Freeze was quite annoying to use.
Rosenwinkel and Lage Lund use the Freeze/SuperEgo pedal for pad chords.
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Originally Posted by pingu
You can try one of EHX synth pedals like C9, B9, K9, Synth9
They are quite versatile
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Gilad Hekselman uses the freeze too, he talks about it here at 4 mins (he is also using a Boss OC3 to get the low bass notes):
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Originally Posted by grahambop
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Yes, it is an old vid.
There is a live solo concert in Newport I guess where uses Freeze (and Boss and volume pedal) with great virtuosity.
Instaliing a silent switch is an option but piano pedal allows you to put it outside pedal board if you wish and has smoother feel than any switch.
the tricky thing about Freeze is that it picks only the notes that sound at the moment - on real piano all the notes are sustained while the pedal is pressed (whether it is mechanical piano or electric one).
It makes really big difference.
Because you should really know when you have to press it otherwise you either get too loud or you will have the wrong notes there...
Also I did not like that 'pluck a chord (sustain it) and play line over it' conception that is mostly used with Freeze.. it is cool too but not all the time...
So I tried to weave the notes in solo and hold them and then press the button so that the harmony will be sustained but it will not be noticeable that you played a chord to sustain it.
Also Freeze will sound a bit different if you apply other modelling pedals before it like overdrive, chorus...
I still use it from time to time but I would really love to have more piano-like sustain...
There is a PLUS pedal from Gamechanger which is more delicate and sensitive than Freeze and has a bit softer tone but essentially the same thing to my ear...
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Originally Posted by Christian Miller
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Originally Posted by st.bede
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Originally Posted by grahambop
To be honest: in art (music), there is a horizon but no end. (Or, if we have reached that end, someone forgot to tell me).
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or maybe you stepped on a freeze pedal just at that momenttttttttt...
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