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    Having struggled with tuning on guitars with big string angles at the nut / headstock, I’ve always been wary of guitars without straight (or near straight) string pull.

    But I don’t think I’ve ever seen an arch top with a straight string pull at the headstock.

    Are there any arch tops with straight string pull headstock designs?

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    Heritage is straight-ish.

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    Ken Parker's archtops certainly have straight string pull. The Benedetto design isn't really straight, but it's straighter than most. If the angle is too much for you on a particular guitar, the String Butler can deal with that, to some extent.

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    Does the Gibson Pat Martino count or are you looking for a big box?


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    Gibson Pat Martino and any PRS come to mind.

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    my old Ibz af120 has that type
    Archtop guitar headstocks with straight string pull?-13f8fdfb-32c7-4e48-8326-01059d5cbf30-jpeg

    works good , nice neck

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    The headstock PRS used on the JA-15 is straight: PRS JA-15 Paul Jackson Jr Signature Guitar | Fat Mans Shop | Reverb, as is the headstock they are more commonly known for: PRS Singlecut Archtop II Private Stock - McCarty Glow | John | Reverb

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    Um, I *think* this is a guitar.


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    A lot of the Peerless designs are straight strings.

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    Thanks for everyone’s feedback.

    There are some interesting design solutions out there. I think the pat martino gibson headstock is probably the best it terms of pure straight pull. And its aesthetics are growing on me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy blue note
    Are you talking breakover angle (straight like a strat?) or angle off to the side?
    I was thinking mainly in terms of eliminating the side pull (which is where i’ve experienced tuning issues). Although i think a minimum breakover angle also matters.

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    You are a genius! I never heard of this but it's brilliant. Thanks.

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    You are a genius! I never heard of this but it's brilliant. Thanks.

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    I ordered one. It's about $50 shipped. I got the V2, which should work with my Johnny A or my Heritage H-555, both with Bigsbys. The neck angle will still be an issue for staying in tune, but nut grease should take care of that.
    Last edited by Marty Grass; 06-23-2021 at 09:44 AM.

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    I still have a couple of extra string butlers. They were on guitars I no longer own. I suppose I could put them on Reverb, but it's more trouble than it's worth, considering the rake Reverb takes. It's a quality product and solves a common problem. I just don't have the problem so much any more, because the guitars I have now don't have a wide headstock.

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    With a straight pull, the strings will buzz in the nut. So, it is never done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icr
    With a straight pull, the strings will buzz in the nut. So, it is never done.
    Hmm. That's not been my experience.Archtop guitar headstocks with straight string pull?-29_03-gear-11-jpg

    Here's a G&L. There's a downward tension but not a lateral one. Never had a problem.

    Here's a tele. Never had an issue here either.Archtop guitar headstocks with straight string pull?-55379_fender_1968_telecaster_blonde_242188_4_c08a0c1f-23d5-44c0-b148-cbb31f1739ec_821x-progressi-jpg

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    As far a 3x3 headstocks, I like the Ibanez Talman's layout. Compared to the Pat Martino, the Talman staggers the tuners a bit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
    As far a 3x3 headstocks, I like the Ibanez Talman's layout. Compared to the Pat Martino, the Talman staggers the tuners a bit.

    The Talman is an interesting design. I saw one at my favorite store. I went home to think about and discuss it with Mrs k and we decided to get it; but the next week we went back and it was gone. It was in a beautiful Surf Green, too!

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    Doh! I should have mentioned our own Soloway guitars.




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    My Tony Duggan-Smith "Birdseye" uses a design similar to the Soloway posted just above this post for an "almost straight" pull. I hope this copy/paste works:


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    Here's one of mine:

    Archtop guitar headstocks with straight string pull?-dsc_0249-jpeg

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
    Um, I *think* this is a guitar.
    I think it's a Picasso. About 1910 I reckon.