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    I want to play naff shred and bad fusion on a bedroom shred machine

    im not sure how serious this is

    Budget options that are strong contenders may threaten with actually being bought in a moment of weakness - less well known marques would be cool.

    Block colour finishes preferable

    Floyd Rose not mandatory

    I like the no nonsense look of the Kramer Pacers and Ibanez RG550s.

    Enable my GAS pls.

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    A Charvel San Dimas is a great guitar for not a lot of money.

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    You might find something here for under 200 pounds.


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    Quote Originally Posted by geese_com View Post
    A Charvel San Dimas is a great guitar for not a lot of money.
    Oh that looks like the kind of thing.... but can I get my kicks on an even tighter budget I wonder? Pricing wise it’s similar to the Ibanez RG550 Genesis, although I think I prefer the way the Charvel looks.
    Last edited by christianm77; 11-19-2020 at 12:34 PM.

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    I’d rather have a standard trem than a cheap Floyd btw

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    Leave some money aside for the latex pants...they improve your speed.

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    Any cheap Charvel/Jackson or Ibanez will get you there. ALOT of guitar for the money. Find one with a neck you like- the biggest differences between the 2 brands are the necks, they are quite different (I love Charvel/Jackson necks and don't get on at all with Ibanez necks)

    My qualifications:

    Vaguely want a pointy widdle machine-a1-jpgVaguely want a pointy widdle machine-a2-jpg

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    No...spandex!

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    I regret selling this one but i wasnt playing it. Japanese charvel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkRhodes View Post
    You might find something here for under 200 pounds.

    200 imperial credits of the realm? I’ve been watching too much Anderton’s TV but I find Rob Chapman’s unique combination of smugness and excruciating dad jokes strangely compelling.

    I have to say I thought the Ibanez the weakest of the guitars here sonically. The grey one sounded good!

    EDIT: Eastcoast; now discontinued. Through body stringing. Face it, I am a tele boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruger9 View Post
    Any cheap Charvel/Jackson or Ibanez will get you there. ALOT of guitar for the money. Find one with a neck you like- the biggest differences between the 2 brands are the necks, they are quite different (I love Charvel/Jackson necks and don't get on at all with Ibanez necks)

    My qualifications:

    Vaguely want a pointy widdle machine-a1-jpgVaguely want a pointy widdle machine-a2-jpg
    Hair!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob MacKillop View Post
    Leave some money aside for the latex pants...they improve your speed.
    Well I’d need this one then:
    Kramer Pacer Vintage Electric Guitar (Tiger)

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    Look into Harley Benton and whatever Gear4Music offer. My son's a shredder and he loves Charvels. As for the amp, I just learned today that your Metro 6.5BG and a H & K Spirit of Metal are a mean, mean combination even outside the bedroom.

    And oh yes, how does this (a TOOB 12Grrrrr Custom) rhyme with your animal instincts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gitterbug View Post
    Look into Harley Benton and whatever Gear4Music offer. My son's a shredder and he loves Charvels. As for the amp, I just learned today that your Metro 6.5BG and a H & K Spirit of Metal are a mean, mean combination even outside the bedroom.
    Ahahahahhaahahahhahahaa!!!!

    Bwouhahahahaha

    I will have my cheap thrills.

    That H&K Vintage is the bomb. Why is it so hi fi with the top end though? It’s fine for jazz but sounds weird driven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gitterbug View Post
    Look into Harley Benton and whatever Gear4Music offer. My son's a shredder and he loves Charvels. As for the amp, I just learned today that your Metro 6.5BG and a H & K Spirit of Metal are a mean, mean combination even outside the bedroom.
    The Benton fusions look nice. Anyone have experience with them, or do I have to go to the strange bald man who reviews them on the YouTubes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gitterbug View Post
    And oh yes, how does this (a TOOB 12Grrrrr Custom) rhyme with your animal instincts?
    Wild!

    Could I have 4 of them in a special lightweight rack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77 View Post
    Hair!
    Ironic that I now have very little!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruger9 View Post
    Ironic that I now have very little!!!
    Well it can’t be said you didn’t enjoy it

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    Harley Benton Fusion-II HH Roasted SSP – Musikhaus Thomann

    You're welcome



    Have the urge myself from time to time - especially since buying that kingsley ministrel.

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    With thomann's return policy it's probably a no-brainer. It seems that they are taking pride in their house brand and have good quality control...


    btw: everything OK with you? Just asking....

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_lu View Post
    Harley Benton Fusion-II HH Roasted SSP – Musikhaus Thomann

    You're welcome



    Have the urge myself from time to time - especially since buying that kingsley ministrel.
    Its not bright green, but I’m willing to overlook that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOMMO View Post
    With thomann's return policy it's probably a no-brainer. It seems that they are taking pride in their house brand and have good quality control...


    btw: everything OK with you? Just asking....
    Hahahaha

    No

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    Vaguely want a pointy widdle machine-0b9e5873-357c-440b-96fb-87e8a990af0b-jpg

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    That HB looks like it has a Wilkinson vibrato- that's one of the better fender-style (non-Floyd Rose) ones out there. That's a nice looking guitar. Not real pointy, LOL, but definitely fusiony.

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    I got one of them pointy guitars back around 2000, an Ibanez RG 470 New Penny color. Hardly ever played it because, well, it's a pointy type guitar. But it plays really nice, and stays in tune forever. I remember buying it new for around $250, just looked at Reverb.com and found one for $599, what!

    Further research, made in Japan in 2000. Didn't even know what I had. Ha.

    Here it is in action, go to 2:27 of this video. Not shred, this old dog ain't learning any new tricks. Hmm, kind of sounds like all of my other guitars. Notice the really nice Ibanez from 1977 in the background.


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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77 View Post
    Wild!

    Could I have 4 of them in a special lightweight rack?
    Yes.

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    Googled the Ibanez RG550 Genesis and realized that it's 8-900£


    If that is your budget then the world is your oyster on the used market ... Patience of course is your enemy since fair priced stuff doesn't show up often. But you can get MIJ Prestige RG of sorts starting around 600* or one of those tele style FR something Ibanez' also from the prestige series

    And even a JS1000 is well within your bounds and those are actually extremely great sounding axes ... They sound amazing clean tbh.


    *My sense of the market is pre-covid .. prices might be slightly higher currently, but I expect them to drop again next year

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77 View Post
    Its not bright green, but I’m willing to overlook that.
    Bright green?
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    to the OP

    this will pass , leave it a couple of days
    you’ll be fine ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammertone View Post
    Bright green?
    YES.

    Although not sure if I’m rock enough to manage without a neck pickup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobomov View Post
    Googled the Ibanez RG550 Genesis and realized that it's 8-900£


    If that is your budget then the world is your oyster on the used market ... Patience of course is your enemy since fair priced stuff doesn't show up often. But you can get MIJ Prestige RG of sorts starting around 600* or one of those tele style FR something Ibanez' also from the prestige series

    And even a JS1000 is well within your bounds and those are actually extremely great sounding axes ... They sound amazing clean tbh.


    *My sense of the market is pre-covid .. prices might be slightly higher currently, but I expect them to drop again next year
    Its not really my budget.

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    to the OP

    this will pass , leave it a couple of days
    you’ll be fine ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77 View Post
    I want to play naff shred and bad fusion on a bedroom shred machine

    im not sure how serious this is

    Budget options that are strong contenders may threaten with actually being bought in a moment of weakness - less well known marques would be cool.

    Block colour finishes preferable

    Floyd Rose not mandatory

    I like the no nonsense look of the Kramer Pacers and Ibanez RG550s.

    Enable my GAS pls.
    Here ya go. Black, pointy, and the price is right!

    Jackson Dinky Minion JS1X - Black | Sweetwater
    Vaguely want a pointy widdle machine-jackson_dinky_minion-jpg
    And just in case you were serious about green, dey got dat too.
    Vaguely want a pointy widdle machine-jackson-dinky-minion-green-jpg

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    Previous guitar shop owner and repair and modification guy:


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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77 View Post
    I want to play naff shred and bad fusion on a bedroom shred machine


    Nah, you don't. Good wind-up though..

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    No discussion possible, here's what yu NEED :
    Strandberg Boden NT 6 Trem MN TT – Thomann UK

    Talking seriously (not sure if this is OP first intention :-) )
    Harley Benton (Thomann's brand) is cheap, but I don't know why they don't triple their price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77 View Post
    Its not really my budget.
    Right ... A budget like that didn't make any sense ...


    Given you're in the UK, can't you pickup a Chapman ML something something Tele style double humbucker thing used .. Despite your lack of love for Rob

    I mean, they're Tele's they're Metal ... and they're 400 quid new, so you can maybe find one for 200?

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    Not sure what's available in your neck of the woods, but keep an eye out for a Schecter. Lots of options in various price tags and there should be a buttload on the used market. Always a winner. I've had good luck with the brand.

    Would consider an esp LTD here, too.

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    I have a Charvel Telecaster (Model 5 or 7.. not sure) from back in the day. It has a reverse, pointed headstock. It's a good sounding guitar. It has a great neck. Finish work is quite good. Makes me feel old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feet View Post
    Not sure what's available in your neck of the woods, but keep an eye out for a Schecter. Lots of options in various price tags and there should be a buttload on the used market. Always a winner. I've had good luck with the brand.

    Would consider an esp LTD here, too.
    We still have to craft our guitars from old fireplaces and motorcycle spare parts

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    Oh wait, Thomann delivers.

    At least until Brexit, and then we will need to craft guitars from oaken heirlooms once more like in the good old days. I read it in the Guardian.

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    In seriousness, Schecter looks good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobomov View Post
    Right ... A budget like that didn't make any sense ...


    Given you're in the UK, can't you pickup a Chapman ML something something Tele style double humbucker thing used .. Despite your lack of love for Rob

    I mean, they're Tele's they're Metal ... and they're 400 quid new, so you can maybe find one for 200?
    I love Rob, I’m just not entirely sure why. Chapman guitars have nice necks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franz 1997 View Post


    Nah, you don't. Good wind-up though..
    i totally do. I just don’t have any time to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 339 in june View Post
    No discussion possible, here's what yu NEED :
    Strandberg Boden NT 6 Trem MN TT – Thomann UK

    Talking seriously (not sure if this is OP first intention :-) )
    Harley Benton (Thomann's brand) is cheap, but I don't know why they don't triple their price.
    The Strandberg is NOT pointy. It’s a sawn off Rorschach ink blot.

    In the 1980s we had two shapes, the triangle and oblong.

    I could be totally serious for HB prices. That RG knock off is sub £200 and looks good.
    Last edited by christianm77; 11-19-2020 at 07:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Sound View Post
    Here ya go. Black, pointy, and the price is right!

    Jackson Dinky Minion JS1X - Black | Sweetwater
    Vaguely want a pointy widdle machine-jackson_dinky_minion-jpg
    And just in case you were serious about green, dey got dat too.
    Vaguely want a pointy widdle machine-jackson-dinky-minion-green-jpg
    That is fabulously bilious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob MacKillop View Post
    No...spandex!
    And talc. LOTS of talc!

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    Green, Tele, pointy. There you go.

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    My favorite guitar store was offended when I complained they had no mirror for 'trying on' guitars.

    You are stumbling down a dangerous path, sir.

    Spandex recovery twelve-step group ahead.

    Buy it and enjoy it!

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    I say go big or go home. Here's my go-to for big hair music. Unfortunately, the spandex tights are a bit of a problem these days.
    Last edited by Hammertone; 11-20-2020 at 01:58 AM.