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    Hi guys,

    Just recently I picked up my Ibanez Artstar AF-200 again. I bought it in 1988, but I've been neglecting it for a few years...Shame on me.
    I find it an amazing guitar, with great playability, sound and looks.

    About the looks: it is in a natural finish (NT), instead of the more common sunburst. When I bought it, I was told that there were only a few naturals, and only three shipped to Europe. I don't know if that's true, but I don't often see them on the web. Erik te Kamp posted one:


    I actually have never see another one live, besides mine. Do you own one? And what's your opinion on this guitar?
    Here are some photos of my AF-200NT.
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    Hi....
    I have an AF200 in the sunburst. Absolutely the best jazz guitar (for me!!!) I’ve had. It keeps my L5CESN in its case. Very comfortable to play, fits in easily and even with the stock Super 58 I can get a warm tone by backing the neck pickup all the way down.
    Mine was the 2014 NAMM show guitar, bought via Rich at Ibanezrules.com. Handwritten interior label serial 0001 no less)))
    Yes it’s a thin neck. For my hands I can not understand why people favor thick necks. But I was taught to play thumb over On both the E and A strings so the thinness for me is a requirement.
    i did try a DiMarzio 36th anniversary pup in the neck but the Super 58 sounds and plays better. TI Jazz Swing flats. Walter Woods M100-8 into an EVM 12L in a Theil cabinet.
    dave

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    I have the sunburst version as well. For a guitar that can be had for around $2000, the Ibanez (MIJ) AF200 is pretty nice! It's comfortable, sounds good and plays well.
    I am not a huge fan of the thin neck, and I didn't care for the tailpiece found on the newer ones (as you can see I've had mine modified with a Stephen Holst tailpiece), but the AF200 is a reasonable & cost effective alternative to the PM or GB series!


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    i currently use a ibanez ak95. does anyone know what the difference is between the ak's en the af's?
    by the way, sounds good Jos!

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    Check out the Ibanez fan wiki at https://ibanez.fandom.com/wiki/Portal:AK_models
    it appears in the current catalog the AK is no longer offered and blended into the AF line. Generally the AKs were made in China, about two years ago they moved to Indonesia. I have a Chinese AK 151 and an Indonesian AF95FM. Both excellent quality. The AF200 is made in Japan at Fujigen, it’s in a class by itself.

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    By the way.... Jake Reichbart plays an Ibanez, looks like an AG. AGs have smaller bodies similar to the GB10 George Benson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel_A
    i currently use a ibanez ak95. does anyone know what the difference is between the ak's en the af's?
    by the way, sounds good Jos!
    Here are specs on most Ibanez models and links to other resources such as catalogs.
    Ibanez Wiki | Fandom

    I have an AF105NTfrom the Artcore series. It’s worked well for me when I need a feedback resistant archtop.
    AF105 | Ibanez Wiki | Fandom

    The AF200 is in the Artstar series. It was a big step up in price.
    AF200 (1988–2003) | Ibanez Wiki | Fandom

    Here’s the AK95.
    AK95 | Ibanez Wiki | Fandom

    There are significant differences in pickup, parts, woods, and probably craftsmanship between these three. I think the AF200 is from Japan and the other two from China.
    Last edited by KirkP; 09-25-2020 at 12:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KirkP
    Here are specs on most Ibanez models and links to other resources such as catalogs.
    Ibanez Wiki | Fandom

    I have an AF105NTfrom the Artcore series. It’s worked well for me when I need a feedback resistant archtop.
    AF105 | Ibanez Wiki | Fandom

    The AF200 is in the Artstar series. It was a big step up in price.
    AF200 (1988–2003) | Ibanez Wiki | Fandom

    Here’s the AK95.
    AK95 | Ibanez Wiki | Fandom

    There are significant differences in pickup, parts, woods, and probably craftsmanship between these three. I think the AF200 is from Japan and the other two from China.
    Thank for these links. Really helpful.

    Yes, the AF200 is from Japan.
    According to the serial number on my guitar it is manufactured by Terada Musical Instrument Co., Ltd. near Nagano in August, 1988.
    And according to the Ibanez Wiki Fandom, the natural finish, like mine, has only been produced between 1988 and 1991.

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    There are countless discussions of the relative merits of the pickups on those three guitars (Super 58, Custom 58, and ACH). The ratings are generally consistent with the price tags, but I’ve never found a direct comparison between any two on the same guitar. There are many comparisons to other pickups though.

    Your AF200NT is a beauty, and I’ll bet it sounds great.

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    We can get even more confused.... there’s also the “Silent 58” which is on the MIJ PM200. ive emailed Ibanez US twice asking what the difference is, no answer. Ibanez pickups can be a real rabbit hole!

    I did a pickup comparison, very unscientific on my PM200 between the Silent 58, a DiMarzio 36th Anniversary, a Benedetto A6, and even the Super 58 from my MIJ AF200. Did this because the all maple PM was much brighter than I wanted. Long story shortened, I found the Silent 58 to be brighter than the Super 58. The Super 58 sounded good, but still let a lot of the maple hi sound through. The 36 didn’t (To my ears) differentiate chord tones well, it’s tone was nice, round, mellow but for chord melody it didn’t thrill me. The Benedetto A6 won hands down on the PM, beautiful tone, separation, playability.

    So I’m doing the same with the AF200. The Super 58 is great on that guitar. The Silent 58 as with the PM was a little too hi focused for me on the AF. The 36 was disappointing again. I have the A6 on now, I’m pretty impressed. I will say the chord tones stand out really well with the A6, but they did with the Super 58 too. Somehow on the AF, I find the Super 58 easier to play, I suppose more forgiving. I dunno the right words. But I intend to go back and forth this week, and figure this out.

    I wish my baby were blond too. I once was lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KirkP
    Your AF200NT is a beauty, and I’ll bet it sounds great.
    Yes, it does! And I love the neck. I know that is a matter of taste, but since I'm getting a wee bit older over time and my fingers aren't that flexible anymore, I'm happy with a thinner neck

    I am curious though how many there are with natural finish...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzkritter
    I wish my baby were blond too. I once was lol.
    ROFLMAO

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    yeah I kept saying ‘I’m blond’ but my wife daughter kept laughing at me.

    I don’t think any blonds were/have been made in the ‘second series’ of the AF200 which appeared in the 2014 catalog. This series is made in the Fujigen factory. Love how comfortable the AF is to play.