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    Like the title says!

    I'm interested in what the forum has to recommend.

    Thank you in advance!

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    That's my favorite size spec, I'm interested in hearing suggestions as well. I'm assuming you mean electric archtop. Does carved or laminate construction matter?

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    Heritage Sweet 16 ?
    best 16" archtop that is 2.5" to 2.75" deep for under ,000-dsc_0044-jpg
    Eastman AR 503 CE ?
    best 16" archtop that is 2.5" to 2.75" deep for under ,000-dsc_0041-jpg

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    If you wait long enough you can sometimes find a used Borys B120 for $3000 to $3500. My other recommendation is the Sadowsky Jim Hall used.

    Ned Whittemore and Stephen Holst makes new laminate jazz guitars in this price range.

    Of course, the venerable Gibson ES-125 has come back into vogue for well under $2000. You'd be looking for the 1960s ES-125 Thinline then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwocky
    If you wait long enough you can sometimes find a used Borys B120 for $3000 to $3500. My other recommendation is the Sadowsky Jim Hall used.

    Ned Whittemore and Stephen Holst makes new laminate jazz guitars in this price range.

    Of course, the venerable Gibson ES-125 has come back into vogue for well under $2000. You'd be looking for the 1960s ES-125 Thinline then.
    Es-125 did cross my mind but I much prefer having a cutaway!

    Thank you for throwing those names my way. I will definitely check those luthiers out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 339 in june
    Heritage Sweet 16 ?
    best 16" archtop that is 2.5" to 2.75" deep for under ,000-dsc_0044-jpg
    Eastman AR 503 CE ?
    best 16" archtop that is 2.5" to 2.75" deep for under ,000-dsc_0041-jpg
    I'm yet to find a heritage sweet 16 for under $3k!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tal_175
    That's my favorite size spec, I'm interested in hearing suggestions as well. I'm assuming you mean electric archtop. Does carved or laminate construction matter?
    I'd prefer carved, I wouldn't mind laminate either. It would depend on how it would sound, plugged in and acoustic.

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    Used Heritage H-575 can get you a great solid carved archtop near your price point. Shop around and you might even find one that has factory custom upgrades.

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    The best I've played is my Wu. I've put my Benedettos in the closet since I got it.

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    Hofner's original version of the Thin President is a very nice guitar. They were made @2004-2006. They pop up used every once in awhile for well under $3,000.
    -15 7/8" wide
    -2 1/2" deep rims
    -25 1/4" scale
    -neck meets body at 16th fret
    -carved spruce top, laminated rims & back
    -ebony fretboard & bridge
    -Schaller hardware
    -OEM 4-conductor mini-humbucking pickups provided by Schaller
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgosnell
    The best I've played is my Wu. I've put my Benedettos in the closet since I got it.
    How does a Wu differ from an Eastman?

    It just seems like a customized Eastman to me.

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    Comins GCS-16-1 has ended my archtop search. Yes, it's laminate and a factory guitar, but it does exactly what I want and has the looks and dimensions I want.

    best 16" archtop that is 2.5" to 2.75" deep for under ,000-comins-gcs-16-1-jpg


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    My arch tops are all 2.75: Eastman Pisano 880, Lehmann Session 16 and Godin Kingpin. Love them all. That's the sweet spot for me when it comes to thickness.

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    Eastmans are built in the Eastman factory. Wu builds his in his own shop. He started out with Eastman, eventually moved to Yunzhi when that split from Eastman, but has been building on his own for some years. It's probably analogous to Gibson and Campellone, at least to some extent. Wu has come a long way in the past few years. His first efforts were somewhat rough in some areas, specifically electronics, fretting, and nut setup, but the one I have needed only minor nut work to be one of the most playable guitars I've had the pleasure of playing. I didn't get any electronics in it, so I can't comment on his current output in that area, but the guitar plays and sounds as good as any I've ever tried. All for $1500 shipped to my house. My only regret is that I didn't order a 17" non-cut, but that's entirely my fault. I got exactly what I ordered, and it's worth a lot more than I paid for it, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgosnell
    Eastmans are built in the Eastman factory. Wu builds his in his own shop. He started out with Eastman, eventually moved to Yunzhi when that split from Eastman, but has been building on his own for some years. It's probably analogous to Gibson and Campellone, at least to some extent. Wu has come a long way in the past few years. His first efforts were somewhat rough in some areas, specifically electronics, fretting, and nut setup, but the one I have needed only minor nut work to be one of the most playable guitars I've had the pleasure of playing. I didn't get any electronics in it, so I can't comment on his current output in that area, but the guitar plays and sounds as good as any I've ever tried. All for $1500 shipped to my house. My only regret is that I didn't order a 17" non-cut, but that's entirely my fault. I got exactly what I ordered, and it's worth a lot more than I paid for it, IMO.
    is that what his prices are like today? What’s the turnaround time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D.G.
    Comins GCS-16-1 has ended my archtop search. Yes, it's laminate and a factory guitar, but it does exactly what I want and has the looks and dimensions I want.

    best 16" archtop that is 2.5" to 2.75" deep for under ,000-comins-gcs-16-1-jpg


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    This definitely caught my eye... I'm interested now. Turns out there's a dealer near me. Gonna head there this weekend to give it a try.

    Do you play yours acoustically at all by any chance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgosnell
    Eastmans are built in the Eastman factory. Wu builds his in his own shop. He started out with Eastman, eventually moved to Yunzhi when that split from Eastman, but has been building on his own for some years. It's probably analogous to Gibson and Campellone, at least to some extent. Wu has come a long way in the past few years. His first efforts were somewhat rough in some areas, specifically electronics, fretting, and nut setup, but the one I have needed only minor nut work to be one of the most playable guitars I've had the pleasure of playing. I didn't get any electronics in it, so I can't comment on his current output in that area, but the guitar plays and sounds as good as any I've ever tried. All for $1500 shipped to my house. My only regret is that I didn't order a 17" non-cut, but that's entirely my fault. I got exactly what I ordered, and it's worth a lot more than I paid for it, IMO.
    I'm interested.

    Do you have any clips where I can hear your guitar in action?

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    I have no recording equipment. I can't say for sure what Wu's prices are today, with the current situation. $1500 was the base price for mine about 2 years ago. It can be more depending on the amount of inlay you want, but it's not much more. Wu's agent is Lora at Yolandateam. You communicate through her, because Wu doesn't speak English. The time from placing the order to receiving the guitar was about 3 months.
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    She is an agent for other makers, including the Yunzhi factory. She was actively seeking orders in March, but I have no idea about the situation now.

    The link displays wonky here, but it's valid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by don_oz
    Es-125 did cross my mind but I much prefer having a cutaway!
    That can be arranged:

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    Quote Originally Posted by don_oz
    Es-125 did cross my mind but I much prefer having a cutaway!

    Thank you for throwing those names my way. I will definitely check those luthiers out!
    Don't forget the ES125 also comes in a cutaway version.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gitfiddler
    Used Heritage H-575 can get you a great solid carved archtop near your price point. Shop around and you might even find one that has factory custom upgrades.
    And the used ones are coming up again in price, so act now

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    Quote Originally Posted by don_oz
    I'm yet to find a heritage sweet 16 for under $3k!
    The Sweet 16’s you’ll often find listed for high prices are listing prices. Those aren’t selling prices. I personally can’t recall a single one of those guitars selling for $3500. You should be able to purchase a Sweet 16 for $3k. I’d make offers to all you see listed, or that interest you, and if a seller doesn’t have a make an offer ad make your max offer anyway.

    Prices for Sweet 16’s have increased since they’re no longer being produced. But I’m not buying the price increases as high as I’ve seen them. Some are listed for $4500, which is ridiculous for that’s the price of an L4CES. Just 3 years ago one could commonly find Sweet 16’s for $2700. I feel folks are seeking to cash in on the fact they’re no longer being produced and not being realistic because at the end of the day it’s still a used Heritage. And I wouldn’t pay $3k for a 575.

    RE a WU I’ve owned a WU. A good guitar yes, a great guitar no. Not even in the discussion with a Sweet 16. Especially for $1500!!!! Get real. Those are $1k guitars max, imo. And btw, I’ve owned 5 Sweet 16’s and am aware of the quality differences between both a WU and a Sweet 16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by don_oz
    I'm yet to find a heritage sweet 16 for under $3k!
    Be patient
    I paid mine €2k four years ago, and in Europe ! Of course it has dings here and there, but nothing structural and it plays and sounds good

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop

    RE a WU I’ve owned a WU. A good guitar yes, a great guitar no. Not even in the discussion with a Sweet 16. Especially for $1500!!!! Get real. Those are $1k guitars max, imo. And btw, I’ve owned 5 Sweet 16’s and am aware of the quality differences between both a WU and a Sweet 16.
    I must have been more fortunate in my Wu guitar experience or maybe just less so with the Sweet 16 I've played (a friend had one in New Mexico so I have spent a little time with one). Maybe it's because the Heritage necks from back when seem skinny for my taste. Maybe it's because Wu/Yunzhi is what I'm used to. Maybe because my guitars are set up specifically to my ears and hands. But I keep coming back to my Yunzhi and Wu guitars. Of course, there aren't a lot of guitars passing through here. Maybe those who focus on buying and selling a lot of guitars have more experience to draw on. I certainly do see a big difference in good (e.g. Martin, Taylor) and great (Kinscherff, Goodall) guitars in my flat tops.

    Someday (guess it better be soon.. not getting any younger) I'll have a custom archtop made here in the US. If it's the same step up in acoustic tone I see in better flat tops, would certainly be worth doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by don_oz
    I'm interested.

    Do you have any clips where I can hear your guitar in action?
    There's a used one in the forum for sale section with a very nice sound clip.

    Mr. Wu 16" Archtop

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    Quote Originally Posted by don_oz
    This definitely caught my eye... I'm interested now. Turns out there's a dealer near me. Gonna head there this weekend to give it a try.

    Do you play yours acoustically at all by any chance?
    It's got enough volume for individual practice, but not for anything else. But that's part of the point of a laminate guitar, it amplifies really well, whereas the better acoustically a guitar is, the harder it is to get it amplified. My Dupont gypsy guitar is an absolute acoustic cannon, but it's rancidly difficult to amplify, and only ever sounds so-so at stage volume and needs huge amounts of eq. It's a bitter pill with those things. Whereas, OTOH, with the Comins, it's plug it into a good amp (Princeton or 5e3) turn it up and it's there

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    Check the For Sale forum -- there's a brand new Holst there for $3000!!

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    If the OP is seeking a 575 this is the Best Buy at $1850 that I’ve seen in years.

    Heritage H-575 Sunburst | SnowboundBassman | Reverb

    and there are two 575’s with Spruce tops at Reverb for $2300 and $2600 obo. All are solid buys.

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    I'd like to thank everyone for their suggestions! I went to try the comins gcs-16-1 blonde single pick up. I left the store with a D'aquisto Jazz line from 2004.

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    Quote Originally Posted by don_oz
    I'd like to thank everyone for their suggestions! I went to try the comins gcs-16-1 blonde single pick up. I left the store with a D'aquisto Jazz line from 2004.
    Doesn't it look identical to Sadowski Jim Hall? They are also both made in Japan based on my quick search now. But D'aquisto is a bit cheaper, is that right?
    Good find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tal_175
    Doesn't it look identical to Sadowski Jim Hall? They are also both made in Japan based on my quick search now. But D'aquisto is a bit cheaper, is that right?
    Good find.
    It is based on the model the D'aquisto that Jim hall used, which I believe is what the sadowsky is based on. My d'aquisto is blonde though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by don_oz View Post
    I'd like to thank everyone for their suggestions! I went to try the comins gcs-16-1 blonde single pick up. I left the store with a D'aquisto Jazz line from 2004.
    Haha, ugh. I was just going to reply with my F/S: D'aquisto. Too late!