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    We arrived in Halifax on Friday and we're now in quarantine for 14 days. Shipping from Mexico is very expensive so I sold off my amps before leaving with plans of getting a replacement once I got here. There are lots of choices and some basic conceptual decisions to be made.

    Concept one: a clean class D head with a small cab. I've been considering the Bam200 and maybe the 6.5" Toob.

    Concept two: a Fender Tonemaster Deluxe (and there's a return available at one of the big Canadian dealers for a decent price right now). This has seemed like a really popular option on the forum since it first came out.

    Concept three: a preamp of some sort with either a powered FRFR cab or a class D amp and a small cab (again maybe a small Toob).

    Any thoughts?

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    Glad you made it safely Jim.
    This looked interesting, but i have no experience with them
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    Hi Jim...Welcome to Canada!

    I will be following this thread with interest and wish you all the best at getting an amp soon.

    Sorry that I can't offer an educated and/or experienced-based opinion.

    Cheers

    Dave

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    Give the Tonemaster a chance. I have the Deluxe.
    Pros:
    -The the Fender tone is there.
    -The power attenurator is a feature that I have been searching for. (I found the Mesa Boogie California tweed with that feature. But it had 4 power and 6 preamp tubes.)
    -23 lbs.
    Cons:
    - It sells for $899. For a few hundred more you can buy the Reissue Deluxe.
    -The Tonemaster Deluxe recreates the orginal deluxe look. So you have 2 channels and the add lenght from that.
    -Reliability is unknown.
    - Ability to get it repaired by a local amp tech with the computer related tech in it.

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    A marked down ToneMaster Deluxe is a good find.

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    if you already have the prerequisites and you're so inclined, maybe some amp sims? amplitube is on sale, softube makes a few winners. not all "jazz" amps in the traditional sense, but they work. especially if you're handy with moving mics and swapping cabs and speakers and so forth. lots to choose from and you can potentially save a bunch if you already have an interface and some headphones and the like.

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    I would go the BAM/cab route, but I'm not you. I have no experience with preamps and FRFR speakers, so I would be inclined to stay away from those. I don't like the sound of Fender amps, so I would not consider any of those. But I hesitate to make an actual recommendation, because my preferences are not yours. Depending on your plans, a combo like the DV Mark Little Jazz might make sense, since it's actually a little more portable, but I know you had one of those and you might not want another. My LJ has become my daily player, in preference to my GK MB-200 and AI Clarus/RE Stealth 10ER and my Fender Vibrolux Reverb. Those have been living in the closet for awhile now, because the LJ sounds so good and takes up so little space. But it's a subjectice subject. If I were starting over I think I would probably get a RE Luna and some cabinet, but fortunately for my pocketbook I have more amps than I need. I really should sell some of them off, but I don't really need the money, so I just hang on to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgosnell
    I would go the BAM/cab route, but I'm not you. I have no experience with preamps and FRFR speakers, so I would be inclined to stay away from those. I don't like the sound of Fender amps, so I would not consider any of those. But I hesitate to make an actual recommendation, because my preferences are not yours. Depending on your plans, a combo like the DV Mark Little Jazz might make sense, since it's actually a little more portable, but I know you had one of those and you might not want another. My LJ has become my daily player, in preference to my GK MB-200 and AI Clarus/RE Stealth 10ER and my Fender Vibrolux Reverb. Those have been living in the closet for awhile now, because the LJ sounds so good and takes up so little space. But it's a subjectice subject. If I were starting over I think I would probably get a RE Luna and some cabinet, but fortunately for my pocketbook I have more amps than I need. I really should sell some of them off, but I don't really need the money, so I just hang on to them.
    I feel the same way. I use my LJ for almost everything, over a vintage Reverberocket and a JC55. Sounds great, it's loud enough for almost everything I do and it weighs so little at 15lbs that I feel no urge to get anything lighter or smaller. That Sgosnell uses it in preference to the Vibrolux (which some feel is the best Fender) and an AI/RE is telling.

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    Jim,
    I know it sounds crazy but would you consider a 4th option? Please, please, please?
    Get yourself a Boss GT_001 and a set of nice open back Headphones (Sennheiser 700HD's are sublime, 650 HD's are really nice too)..
    Rid yourself of amps forever. This makes moving less cumbersome. Your wife will love me (well maybe not..) because she wont hear you play the same lines over and over and over again..
    Plus, this GT_001 will be your Digital interface.
    And, it has an Auxiliary input so you can learn/listen to tracks from an external source along with hearing what you are playing.
    Honestly, I will always have this as my main rig. I'll always have an amp, because it stops the door from hitting my hanging wall case that holds my Solid Formed..
    And the reason I suggest open back headphones is, better sound, less pressure on the ears, and you can hear outside of the headphones really well. Like when dinner is ready, Or actually hear the acoustic part of your guitar..
    Please, please, please... You gotta try this.
    Joe D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max405
    Jim,
    I know it sounds crazy but would you consider a 4th option? Please, please, please?
    Get yourself a Boss GT_001 and a set of nice open back Headphones (Sennheiser 700HD's are sublime, 650 HD's are really nice too)..
    Rid yourself of amps forever. This makes moving less cumbersome. Your wife will love me (well maybe not..) because she wont hear you play the same lines over and over and over again..
    Plus, this GT_001 will be your Digital interface.
    And, it has an Auxiliary input so you can learn/listen to tracks from an external source along with hearing what you are playing.
    Honestly, I will always have this as my main rig. I'll always have an amp, because it stops the door from hitting my hanging wall case that holds my Solid Formed..
    And the reason I suggest open back headphones is, better sound, less pressure on the ears, and you can hear outside of the headphones really well. Like when dinner is ready, Or actually hear the acoustic part of your guitar..
    Please, please, please... You gotta try this.
    Joe D
    Hi Joe. Part of me wishes I had seen this an hour ago. I just ordered the Tonemaster Deluxe at a very hefty discount, (although it could probably be cancelled). But this not a fourth option, it's exactly what I was referring to in option 3, just with headphones instead an FRFR cab. But I must say, I sure like the sound you get. I didn't know that's what you were using. I'll have to toss this around in my head a bit.

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    I like the tone Hideo Date gets out of his Milkman The Amp 50w and Raezer's Edge 6 cabinet.


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    Jim: Welcome back to our silly but pleasant little country.

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    Hey Jim, glad you made it safely!
    Too late, I guess, but I'd second the Raezer's Edge recommendation above.

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    Here is an 80's orange Cube 60 for sale in Halifax. 300$ is not cheap for this amp but may be you can negotiate:
    https://www.kijiji.ca/v-amp-pedal/ci...amp/1514170206

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcwhy
    Hey Jim, glad you made it safely!
    Too late, I guess, but I'd second the Raezer's Edge recommendation above.
    We made it but we really won't know for a couple of weeks if we made it safely. We had a LOT of unavoidable exposure over the last two weeks including the two Mexican airports and flights. Quarantine isn't much fun but if ever there were two people who ought to be quarantined here, it's us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Soloway
    We made it but we really won't know for a couple of weeks if we made it safely. We had a LOT of unavoidable exposure over the last two weeks including the two Mexican airports and flights. Quarantine isn't much fun but if ever there were two people who ought to be quarantined here, it's us.
    great selfless attitude!! wishin you & yours all the best with that..as well as with the new amp


    cheers

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    If you want to do play on low volumes I heartily recommend them Yamaha 10c which I have and has increased my playing time by a factor of 10 also after a year. Perhaps the 10a suits your sound better. Reverb and stereo just give low level sound body that my tubes don’t.
    Best of luck isolating!

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    Darn Jim, I thought you had moved there permanently. Welcome back to Canada and well wishes to you and your wife on being virus free!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
    Darn Jim, I thought you had moved there permanently. Welcome back to Canada and well wishes to you and your wife on being virus free!
    Us too Greg. For 18 months it was fabulous and felt like home ... then the roof caved in.

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    Hi Jim
    I have a Tonemaster Deluxe Reverb - I like it very much. It is different to the DV Mark and some of the other amps suggested here, it has that pronounced "Fender" sound. That said, I love mine - it's super portable and sounds to my ears just like the real thing. The attenuator is really useful too, I rarely run mine above the 5 watt setting - that's loud enough for most gigs.
    Personally having heard your playing here on the forum, I think you'd sound incredible through one of these. They have a very rich low end that would compliment your drop tuning nicely.

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    Hi Jim, glad you made safely it to Canada in these "complicated" times. I have both the ToneMaster Deluxe Reverb and the BAM200+Toob Metro 6.5BG (for bass and guitar).

    • Tonemaster - real Fender tone, attenuation, XLR out and 3 impulse response settings. Lighter then its tube sister by half. Clean to 4/5, then hair, and overdrive is nicely progressive past 5/6. Taming the reverb takes some learning, but I'm happy with it now. Tremolo is excellent but the slowest setting is not slow enough for me, so I use a pedal for some numbers. Great combo.
    • BAM200+Toob 6.5BG - Great cleans, pushing the gain with master volume low gives nice break-up. No reverb, so a pedal like a HOF will be necessary if you need reverb. Also works fine with my Höfner Beatle bass, is surprisingly full with good projection. Less mid-scoop than the TMDR. Size and weight mean I can carry amp+speaker up and downstairs very easily - more so than the TMDR, which whilst light at 22lbs is bulky.

    Both setups take pedals well.

    I use both, depending on my mood and I can recommend both setups without hesitation.

    Be sure to let us know what you choose.
    Ray

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    Jim,
    I have been using the Blug Amp1 with the Nanocab. Nanotube in the power section so the clean sounds are delicious and make the amp well worth it for me. I play solo jazz with a carved archtop, R&B on a solid body, big band with archtop/335/solid body, and country chicken pickin on a Tele. The distortion channels are good too, but the best part is the clean side with the boost, otherwise I would not have gotten it. It's a warm but lively sound. The Nanocab is stupid light and small. I have kept up with a marshall 50W with a 4x12 bottom in a UK pub band. The only downside is carrying and plugging in a speaker cable. He also has a larger 1 x 12 cab called the fatcab which I like better...more open, but larger and heavier. The nanocab is "old man light"...no, it's "old woman light." 22 Lb and the amp1 fits in my guitar bag.

    The quilter products should be considered. There's quite a range.

    Can't say enough about a used Musicman RD 50 112. Beautiful clean sounds but 50 W of great club power. Very useful distortion channel that sounds lovely with gain turned down and rocks as needed. $500-800 used and a reissue has been released within the last year for a bit over a grand.

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    Here's hoping for a dull two week quarantine.

    You'll love the Tonemaster Deluxe. The attenuation switch and the direct out are wonderful additional features to an excellent sounding amp.

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    Joe et al:

    those Sennheiser hd700 headphones are no longer manufactured. Their tech support told me the HD660 would be the closest product!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skykomishone
    Joe et al:

    those Sennheiser hd700 headphones are no longer manufactured. Their tech support told me the HD660 would be the closest product!
    I use the HD598 as my default iPad phones. I think they are low, 30ohm?, impedance. Great sound.

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    Welcome home Jim. Canada is a good place to be right now.
    Keith

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    Jim, check your PMs!

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    Ampless in Canada? Could be worse...


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    Well plan A didn't work out. The retailer let the order fall through the cracks and I ended up cancelling. Time to consider plan B ... or C etc.

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    Fender days at L&M for August Jim.

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    Amplitube 4 Max is on sale for a few more days; a few of those are pretty solid. People like the archetype sims but they're pricey, but not as pricey as the softube ones, which I generally prefer. Bias fx and Helix are popular with the kids these days.

    All should work with a frfr cab or headphones just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
    Ampless in Canada? Could be worse...

    I’d love to read that!


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    Raezer's Edge Luna 200 + Raezer's Edge 6? $900 directly from Geoff Felsher.

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    Will you be moving between Mexico and Canada constantly?
    My wife is bugging me to move south to the Mediterranean ocean permanently. I still have to keep working like 10 - 15 years but I guess most can be done remotely. So I'm interested to get experiences from others.

    About the amplification issue. The band I'm in now uses in ear monitoring so I jumped on the DI-train completely after going back and forth before depending on the PA-situation. I had the opportunity to A/B my DI-solution with my Fender Vibrolux and went with the DI-solution. I used to use a Tech 21 Fly Rig Cali but now upgraded to an Ritchie Kotzen Fly Rip v2 which adds not only an XLR-out and tuner but also a switch to use the output with headphones.
    I didn't try digital modellers because I hate latency and programming. The fly rig is layed out like an old-school amp and pedalboard and frankly has more to offer than I need. The preamp does a good job at emulating a fender twin.
    At home I use it into my audio-interface and studio monitors / headphones and with the band I plug the XLR into the PA and use in-ears. It took me like 5 minutes to get used to the in-ears and now I enjoy to hear everybody in this 8-piece band so well. The fly rig would work into a powered speaker as well.
    It is also a great option for frequent traveler – my whole rig fits into my guitar bag. As I don't like driving so this gives me a lot of freedom to go to local gigs by bike or take the subway. If there is a decent PA I'm good to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guavajelly
    Will you be moving between Mexico and Canada constantly?
    My wife is bugging me to move south to the Mediterranean ocean permanently. I still have to keep working like 10 - 15 years but I guess most can be done remotely. So I'm interested to get experiences from others.
    I don't know if we'll ever get back to Mexico. It now has had the third most deaths from Covid of any country and the disease is still raging with no serious effort to stop it. Civil society is thin at the best of times and this is really stressing Mexican society in very bad ways. At my age, I'm not will to just hunker down for an extended period anywhere and that's what staying in Mexico would require. So we'll see. We sold most of our stuff before we left and rented out our apartment for at least a year. Right now we're just focused on whether we can make a life for ourselves here in Canada and we'll see if my wife, who spent the first 48 years of her life in California can make it through a Canadian winter in one piece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max405
    Jim,
    I know it sounds crazy but would you consider a 4th option? Please, please, please?
    Get yourself a Boss GT_001 and a set of nice open back Headphones (Sennheiser 700HD's are sublime, 650 HD's are really nice too)..
    Rid yourself of amps forever. This makes moving less cumbersome. Your wife will love me (well maybe not..) because she wont hear you play the same lines over and over and over again..
    Plus, this GT_001 will be your Digital interface.
    And, it has an Auxiliary input so you can learn/listen to tracks from an external source along with hearing what you are playing.
    Honestly, I will always have this as my main rig. I'll always have an amp, because it stops the door from hitting my hanging wall case that holds my Solid Formed..
    And the reason I suggest open back headphones is, better sound, less pressure on the ears, and you can hear outside of the headphones really well. Like when dinner is ready, Or actually hear the acoustic part of your guitar..
    Please, please, please... You gotta try this.
    Joe D
    After lots of research and a failed amp order, I think you may be on to something here Joe. My primary functions moving forward are probably always going to be low volume home playing and recording so is probably a better solution than an amp. I wouldn't use headphones because I don't want to spend that many hours with something on my head but a nice pair of monitors would probably do the trick. How easy (or hard) it it to program? And what sets this apart from other modelers that you like so much? Certainly, the tone you get in your records is way beyond stellar so maybe that should tell me enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Soloway
    After lots of research and a failed amp order, I think you may be on to something here Joe. My primary functions moving forward are probably always going to be low volume home playing and recording so is probably a better solution than an amp. I wouldn't use headphones because I don't want to spend that many hours with something on my head but a nice pair of monitors would probably do the trick. How easy (or hard) it it to program? And what sets this apart from other modelers that you like so much? Certainly, the tone you get in your records is way beyond stellar so maybe that should tell me enough.
    Jim, As a modeler, the small, lightweight GT001 is pretty good. It doesn’t include a looper. I don’t play around 99.9% of the effects. I have one patch and use it everyday. It is a fantastic usb recording tool. Great drivers, zero latency. It has an auxiliary input and that helps me hook my iPad up. I use tempo. It slows down songs so I can learn note for note stuff. The headphones (the good over ear type, you wear for hours and forget you have on) allow me HEAR everything better. Which allows me to learn quicker and more accurately. The setup works for me.
    A nice set of powered monitors would probably be outstanding. The modeler has infinite adjustability. It is not simple, there is a learning curve. But it has a program called Boss Tone Lab that helps simplify the interface as it projects its functions on your computer and you make adjusts from there.

    Don’t eliminate the open back headphone idea. They are indispensable for recording. And you will hear your great playing better than you ever had before.

    Joe D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max405
    Jim, As a modeler, the small, lightweight GT001 is pretty good. It doesn’t include a looper. I don’t play around 99.9% of the effects. I have one patch and use it everyday. It is a fantastic usb recording tool. Great drivers, zero latency. It has an auxiliary input and that helps me hook my iPad up. I use tempo. It slows down songs so I can learn note for note stuff. The headphones (the good over ear type, you wear for hours and forget you have on) allow me HEAR everything better. Which allows me to learn quicker and more accurately. The setup works for me.
    A nice set of powered monitors would probably be outstanding. The modeler has infinite adjustability. It is not simple, there is a learning curve. But it has a program called Boss Tone Lab that helps simplify the interface as it projects its functions on your computer and you make adjusts from there.

    Don’t eliminate the open back headphone idea. They are indispensable for recording. And you will hear your great playing better than you ever had before.

    Joe D
    I think you know that I used a POD HD desktop for many years so I'm used to the concept. It certainly make recording a LOT easier. I got so worn out by recording the conventional way that now I just plug my guitar straight into my interface and then shape the tone a bit after it's recorded. I've gotten a lot better at it this year but it sure isn't ideal. The other alternative that I'm considering is a Boss Nextone amp. It's a more all in one solution in terms of sound shaping and sound output but a lot of the concepts very similar to using a modeler just in an amp shaped box.

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    Hoping for a mild first winter for her. Also from personal experince please be aware of the chance for Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD) in the winter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Soloway
    we'll see if my wife, who spent the first 48 years of her life in California can make it through a Canadian winter in one piece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Soloway
    I don't know if we'll ever get back to Mexico. It now has had the third most deaths from Covid of any country and the disease is still raging with no serious effort to stop it. Civil society is thin at the best of times and this is really stressing Mexican society in very bad ways. At my age, I'm not will to just hunker down for an extended period anywhere and that's what staying in Mexico would require. So we'll see. We sold most of our stuff before we left and rented out our apartment for at least a year. Right now we're just focused on whether we can make a life for ourselves here in Canada and we'll see if my wife, who spent the first 48 years of her life in California can make it through a Canadian winter in one piece.
    You know BC. Victoria would be milder than Halifax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Soloway
    ...we'll see if my wife, who spent the first 48 years of her life in California can make it through a Canadian winter in one piece.
    Really? "Canadian winter?" Halifax gets a pretty mild version, IMO. Here's a useful chart for you (centigrade/metric units, as noted):
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    Last edited by Hammertone; 08-01-2020 at 06:10 PM.

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    Id be in some serious trouble if I lived a place where 3 MONTHS out of the year, there is more than 20” of snow on the ground at all times. I would lose it. I can’t stand snow.
    And 2.1 hrs of sunlight!?! Per day!?!
    That’s where I would expect to go if I was imprisoned for some reason.
    JD

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
    Ampless in Canada? Could be worse...

    huxley had notoriously terrible vision!! wrote a book about it...non fiction..the art of seeing

    and yet he was a visionary!

    cheers

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    I'm still saying Victoria beats Halifax for climate. From Wikipedia (one per post because of size limits).

    Climate data for Halifax (Citadel Hill), 1981–2010 normals, extremes 1863–present[a]
    Month Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Year
    Record high °C (°F) 14.0
    (57.2)
    16.0
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    28.2
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    28.3
    (82.9)
    33.3
    (91.9)
    34.4
    (93.9)
    37.2
    (99.0)
    34.4
    (93.9)
    34.6
    (94.3)
    31.1
    (88.0)
    23.3
    (73.9)
    16.7
    (62.1)
    37.2
    (99.0)
    Average high °C (°F) -0.1
    (31.8)
    0.4
    (32.7)
    3.6
    (38.5)
    8.7
    (47.7)
    14.4
    (57.9)
    19.6
    (67.3)
    23.1
    (73.6)
    23.1
    (73.6)
    19.3
    (66.7)
    13.4
    (56.1)
    8.1
    (46.6)
    2.8
    (37.0)
    11.4
    (52.5)
    Daily mean °C (°F) -4.1
    (24.6)
    -3.6
    (25.5)
    -0.2
    (31.6)
    4.9
    (40.8)
    10.1
    (50.2)
    15.2
    (59.4)
    18.8
    (65.8)
    19.1
    (66.4)
    15.5
    (59.9)
    9.9
    (49.8)
    4.8
    (40.6)
    ?0.8
    (30.6)
    7.5
    (45.5)
    Average low °C (°F) -8.2
    (17.2)
    -7.5
    (18.5)
    -3.9
    (25.0)
    1.0
    (33.8)
    5.8
    (42.4)
    10.7
    (51.3)
    14.4
    (57.9)
    15.1
    (59.2)
    11.8
    (53.2)
    6.4
    (43.5)
    1.5
    (34.7)
    -4.3
    (24.3)
    3.6
    (38.5)
    Record low °C (°F) -27.2
    (-17.0)
    -29.4
    (-20.9)
    -23.3
    (-9.9)
    -13.9
    (7.0)
    -5.0
    (23.0)
    0.0
    (32.0)
    4.4
    (39.9)
    3.9
    (39.0)
    -1.7
    (28.9)
    -7.2
    (19.0)
    -15.6
    (3.9)
    -25.6
    (-14.1)
    -29.4
    (-20.9)
    Average precipitation mm (inches) 139.7
    (5.50)
    110.1
    (4.33)
    132.5
    (5.22)
    118.3
    (4.66)
    119.1
    (4.69)
    111.8
    (4.40)
    110.3
    (4.34)
    96.4
    (3.80)
    108.9
    (4.29)
    124.3
    (4.89)
    151.4
    (5.96)
    145.1
    (5.71)
    1,468.1
    (57.80)
    Average rainfall mm (inches) 96.7
    (3.81)
    75.1
    (2.96)
    101.3
    (3.99)
    111.3
    (4.38)
    118.4
    (4.66)
    111.8
    (4.40)
    110.3
    (4.34)
    96.4
    (3.80)
    108.9
    (4.29)
    124.1
    (4.89)
    143.6
    (5.65)
    115.9
    (4.56)
    1,313.9
    (51.73)
    Average snowfall cm (inches) 43.1
    (17.0)
    35.0
    (13.8)
    31.2
    (12.3)
    7.0
    (2.8)
    0.8
    (0.3)
    0.0
    (0.0)
    0.0
    (0.0)
    0.0
    (0.0)
    0.0
    (0.0)
    0.1
    (0.0)
    7.8
    (3.1)
    29.2
    (11.5)
    154.2
    (60.7)
    Average precipitation days (? 0.2 mm) 13.8 11.6 13.1 15.2 15.8 13.6 12.1 11.1 11.7 14.1 15.3 14.5 161.8
    Average rainy days (? 0.2 mm) 8.5 6.5 10.2 14.1 15.7 13.6 12.1 11.1 11.7 14.1 14.5 10.8 142.7
    Average snowy days (? 0.2 cm) 6.8 6.1 4.1 1.6 0.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.1 1.2 5.2 25.3
    Mean monthly sunshine hours 109.5 127.2 142.8 156.6 193.3 220.7 235.2 226.6 180.5 157.8 107.4 105.2 1,962.5
    Percent possible sunshine 38.2 43.3 38.7 38.8 42.1 47.5 49.9 52.1 47.9 46.2 37.2 38.2 43.3
    Average ultraviolet index 1 2 3 5 6 8 8 7 5 3 2 1 4
    Source 1: Environment Canada (Sunshine data recorded at CFB Shearwater)[25][26][27][28][29][30][31]
    Source 2: Nova Scotian Institute of Science[32][33][34][35][36][37][38][39] and Weather Atlas[40]

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    Climate data for Halifax Stanfield International Airport, 1981?2010 normals, extremes 1953?present

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    Climate data for Victoria (Gonzales), 1971–2000 normals, extremes 1898–present[a]
    Month Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Year
    Record high humidex 13.8 16.0 18.3 22.4 29.1 33.8 36.1 35.0 32.3 24.7 19.7 15.1 36.1
    Record high °C (°F) 17.1
    (62.8)
    17.4
    (63.3)
    23.6
    (74.5)
    27.0
    (80.6)
    31.6
    (88.9)
    35.0
    (95.0)
    36.0
    (96.8)
    33.4
    (92.1)
    31.7
    (89.1)
    25.0
    (77.0)
    18.9
    (66.0)
    15.0
    (59.0)
    36.0
    (96.8)
    Average high °C (°F) 7.0
    (44.6)
    8.6
    (47.5)
    10.6
    (51.1)
    13.1
    (55.6)
    15.9
    (60.6)
    17.9
    (64.2)
    19.8
    (67.6)
    20.1
    (68.2)
    18.5
    (65.3)
    13.8
    (56.8)
    9.4
    (48.9)
    7.1
    (44.8)
    13.5
    (56.3)
    Daily mean °C (°F) 5.0
    (41.0)
    6.2
    (43.2)
    7.6
    (45.7)
    9.6
    (49.3)
    12.1
    (53.8)
    14.0
    (57.2)
    15.6
    (60.1)
    15.9
    (60.6)
    14.6
    (58.3)
    10.9
    (51.6)
    7.2
    (45.0)
    5.2
    (41.4)
    10.3
    (50.5)
    Average low °C (°F) 3.0
    (37.4)
    3.7
    (38.7)
    4.5
    (40.1)
    6.0
    (42.8)
    8.2
    (46.8)
    10.0
    (50.0)
    11.3
    (52.3)
    11.7
    (53.1)
    10.7
    (51.3)
    7.9
    (46.2)
    5.0
    (41.0)
    3.2
    (37.8)
    7.1
    (44.8)
    Record low °C (°F) -14.2
    (6.4)
    -12.8
    (9.0)
    -7.1
    (19.2)
    ?2.2
    (28.0)
    1.1
    (34.0)
    3.9
    (39.0)
    6.1
    (43.0)
    4.4
    (39.9)
    1.7
    (35.1)
    -2.8
    (27.0)
    -11.1
    (12.0)
    -15.6
    (3.9)
    -15.6
    (3.9)
    Record low wind chill -22.1 -18.6 -13.6 -4.6 -1.8 3.1 4.3 6.5 1.0 -9.1 -20.8 -27.0 -27.0
    Average precipitation mm (inches) 94.3
    (3.71)
    71.7
    (2.82)
    46.5
    (1.83)
    28.5
    (1.12)
    25.8
    (1.02)
    20.7
    (0.81)
    14.0
    (0.55)
    19.7
    (0.78)
    27.4
    (1.08)
    51.2
    (2.02)
    98.9
    (3.89)
    108.9
    (4.29)
    607.6
    (23.92)
    Average rainfall mm (inches) 85.2
    (3.35)
    68.1
    (2.68)
    45.3
    (1.78)
    28.5
    (1.12)
    25.8
    (1.02)
    20.7
    (0.81)
    14.0
    (0.55)
    19.7
    (0.78)
    27.4
    (1.08)
    51.1
    (2.01)
    95.5
    (3.76)
    101.9
    (4.01)
    583.1
    (22.96)
    Average snowfall cm (inches) 9.7
    (3.8)
    3.5
    (1.4)
    1.1
    (0.4)
    0
    (0)
    0
    (0)
    0
    (0)
    0
    (0)
    0
    (0)
    0
    (0)
    0.1
    (0.0)
    4.1
    (1.6)
    7.8
    (3.1)
    26.3
    (10.4)
    Average precipitation days (? 0.2 mm) 17.0 15.4 13.6 10.4 9.0 7.1 4.9 4.8 7.9 11.9 16.1 17.5 135.6
    Average rainy days (? 0.2 mm) 14.6 14.3 12.9 10.4 9.0 7.1 4.9 4.8 7.9 11.9 15.3 16.1 129.2
    Average snowy days (? 0.2 cm) 2.6 1.7 0.7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.1 0.8 1.9 7.8
    Mean monthly sunshine hours 74.1 93.7 149.5 201.5 266.6 273.8 327.8 297.3 204.1 153.4 83.1 68.7 2,193.3
    Percent possible sunshine 27.1 32.6 40.6 49.2 56.6 56.9 67.5 66.9 53.9 45.6 29.9 26.4 46.1
    Average ultraviolet index 1 1 3 4 6 7 7 6 5 3 1 1 4
    Source: Environment Canada[36][37][38][28][30] and Weather Atlas[39]

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    Climate data for University of Victoria, 1981–2010 normals, extremes 1992–present

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
    Climate data for Victoria (Gonzales), 1971–2000 normals, extremes 1898–present[a]
    Month Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Year
    Record high humidex 13.8 16.0 18.3 22.4 29.1 33.8 36.1 35.0 32.3 24.7 19.7 15.1 36.1
    Record high °C (°F) 17.1
    (62.8)
    17.4
    (63.3)
    23.6
    (74.5)
    27.0
    (80.6)
    31.6
    (88.9)
    35.0
    (95.0)
    36.0
    (96.8)
    33.4
    (92.1)
    31.7
    (89.1)
    25.0
    (77.0)
    18.9
    (66.0)
    15.0
    (59.0)
    36.0
    (96.8)
    Average high °C (°F) 7.0
    (44.6)
    8.6
    (47.5)
    10.6
    (51.1)
    13.1
    (55.6)
    15.9
    (60.6)
    17.9
    (64.2)
    19.8
    (67.6)
    20.1
    (68.2)
    18.5
    (65.3)
    13.8
    (56.8)
    9.4
    (48.9)
    7.1
    (44.8)
    13.5
    (56.3)
    Daily mean °C (°F) 5.0
    (41.0)
    6.2
    (43.2)
    7.6
    (45.7)
    9.6
    (49.3)
    12.1
    (53.8)
    14.0
    (57.2)
    15.6
    (60.1)
    15.9
    (60.6)
    14.6
    (58.3)
    10.9
    (51.6)
    7.2
    (45.0)
    5.2
    (41.4)
    10.3
    (50.5)
    Average low °C (°F) 3.0
    (37.4)
    3.7
    (38.7)
    4.5
    (40.1)
    6.0
    (42.8)
    8.2
    (46.8)
    10.0
    (50.0)
    11.3
    (52.3)
    11.7
    (53.1)
    10.7
    (51.3)
    7.9
    (46.2)
    5.0
    (41.0)
    3.2
    (37.8)
    7.1
    (44.8)
    Record low °C (°F) -14.2
    (6.4)
    -12.8
    (9.0)
    -7.1
    (19.2)
    ?2.2
    (28.0)
    1.1
    (34.0)
    3.9
    (39.0)
    6.1
    (43.0)
    4.4
    (39.9)
    1.7
    (35.1)
    -2.8
    (27.0)
    -11.1
    (12.0)
    -15.6
    (3.9)
    -15.6
    (3.9)
    Record low wind chill -22.1 -18.6 -13.6 -4.6 -1.8 3.1 4.3 6.5 1.0 -9.1 -20.8 -27.0 -27.0
    Average precipitation mm (inches) 94.3
    (3.71)
    71.7
    (2.82)
    46.5
    (1.83)
    28.5
    (1.12)
    25.8
    (1.02)
    20.7
    (0.81)
    14.0
    (0.55)
    19.7
    (0.78)
    27.4
    (1.08)
    51.2
    (2.02)
    98.9
    (3.89)
    108.9
    (4.29)
    607.6
    (23.92)
    Average rainfall mm (inches) 85.2
    (3.35)
    68.1
    (2.68)
    45.3
    (1.78)
    28.5
    (1.12)
    25.8
    (1.02)
    20.7
    (0.81)
    14.0
    (0.55)
    19.7
    (0.78)
    27.4
    (1.08)
    51.1
    (2.01)
    95.5
    (3.76)
    101.9
    (4.01)
    583.1
    (22.96)
    Average snowfall cm (inches) 9.7
    (3.8)
    3.5
    (1.4)
    1.1
    (0.4)
    0
    (0)
    0
    (0)
    0
    (0)
    0
    (0)
    0
    (0)
    0
    (0)
    0.1
    (0.0)
    4.1
    (1.6)
    7.8
    (3.1)
    26.3
    (10.4)
    Average precipitation days (? 0.2 mm) 17.0 15.4 13.6 10.4 9.0 7.1 4.9 4.8 7.9 11.9 16.1 17.5 135.6
    Average rainy days (? 0.2 mm) 14.6 14.3 12.9 10.4 9.0 7.1 4.9 4.8 7.9 11.9 15.3 16.1 129.2
    Average snowy days (? 0.2 cm) 2.6 1.7 0.7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.1 0.8 1.9 7.8
    Mean monthly sunshine hours 74.1 93.7 149.5 201.5 266.6 273.8 327.8 297.3 204.1 153.4 83.1 68.7 2,193.3
    Percent possible sunshine 27.1 32.6 40.6 49.2 56.6 56.9 67.5 66.9 53.9 45.6 29.9 26.4 46.1
    Average ultraviolet index 1 1 3 4 6 7 7 6 5 3 1 1 4
    Source: Environment Canada[36][37][38][28][30] and Weather Atlas[39]

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    Climate data for North Saanich (Victoria International Airport), elevation: 19.5 m (64 ft), 1981-2010 normals, extremes 1940-present
    Here's something you should try. Click on the link below. It will show you all of the homes available in Victoria today that are selling for $325,000 or less. Have a look at the listings and tell me how many of them are houses? How many of them have more than 1 bedroom? How many of them have more than 1 bathroom? How many of them have more than 800 square feet?

    https://www.realtor.ca/map#ZoomLevel...0&Currency=CAD

    As for the weather, yes, the weather is better in the BC Lower Mainland and parts of the Island. But this is Canada. Winter is a fact in Canada. By Canadian standards, Halifax is pretty mild. I grew up in Winnipeg. Halifax is very NOT Winnipeg. It has free health care. It's very pretty and it's a comfortable size. Even with the real estate market booming, we can afford a nice home here. And if the virus ever stops dominating the world, we can afford go away for at least part of the winter to someplace genuinely warm just like Canadians have been doing for as long as I can remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max405
    Id be in some serious trouble if I lived a place where 3 MONTHS out of the year, there is more than 20” of snow on the ground at all times. I would lose it. I can’t stand snow.
    And 2.1 hrs of sunlight!?! Per day!?!
    That’s where I would expect to go if I was imprisoned for some reason.
    JD
    That's not sunlight. It's sunshine. Even in December and January it averages about 9 hours of daylight per day.
    Last edited by Jim Soloway; 08-02-2020 at 08:00 AM.

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    Victoria is some kind of Canadian fantasyland when it comes to winter. Halifax has a nice toy winter.

    Jim mentioned Winnipeg. I grew up in Montreal, and have spent too much time in Ottawa on business. Best to avoid these places in winter.

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    Lots of clouds, yes. My limited research indicates that it's a raw wet place. It's a few thousand miles north of what I would accept as livable. But someone has to live in Canada, and I feel for them but can't reach them. Where I live is not ideal, but at least freezing to death is not something anyone worries about. I hope you and your wife are happy there, Jim. Everyone has different priorities, and yours are as valid as mine.

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    OK, now that we've determined that Jim will be frozen solid and have mushrooms growing out of his face due to Halifax hovering between -5 and +5 degrees C and it either raining or snowing 365 days per year, except for 30 seconds of slightly drier and warmer gloom on the summer solstice, perhaps we can also recommend him an amp that will sound terrible, weigh a ton, and maybe explode ...

    Or to celebrate the return to Canada, perhaps a Traynor.

    John
    Last edited by John A.; 08-02-2020 at 03:09 PM.