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    i know this is a long shot but does anyone have any idea what gig bag would fit a gibson barney kessel?




    I know this one fits (just barely) but is not my fave for protection...




    https://www.amazon.com/Gator-Lightweight-Polyfoam-Acoustic-GL-JUMBO/dp/B000LPOSDY

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    I have two of these and I really like them. The interior length on this version is 46", so you'd have to measure the BK. Lower bout 16-3/4", but I find that width-wise 17" archtops generally fit dreadnaught bags because the guitars are much narrower than dreadnaughts at the rim and the cases flex a bit. But the length can be an issue.

    Gator G-PG ACOUSTIC ProGo Ultimate Gig Bag for Acoustic Guitar | Sweetwater

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    Quote Originally Posted by jzucker
    i know this is a long shot but does anyone have any idea what gig bag would fit a gibson barney kessel?




    I know this one fits (just barely) but is not my fave for protection...




    https://www.amazon.com/Gator-Lightweight-Polyfoam-Acoustic-GL-JUMBO/dp/B000LPOSDY
    Jack, unless your gonna spend $300-500 for a custom made one, that’s the only one out there - that I could find anyway.
    I have the one you have and it suits my needs. I like the backpack straps which allows me to pull 2 large suit cases while I “wear” my gig bag.
    JD

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    Maybe Blue Heron they have a super 400 that might fit despite being a bit wider

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    Classic Jumbo Acoustic Guitar Case, Black
    – MONO


    Or is that one too small?
    Can't get much better protection than with a Mono case.

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    Jack I bought a Reunion Blues Continental for my 16&1/2" Elferink Tonemaster archtop. It would easily fit your 17" BK.
    I think I paid under $200.and it's very heavy duty like a Mono bag.

    Look on their website under Continental Dreadnaught bags.

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    Hiya Jack. As jads57 points out, a Reunion Blues Continental might work. But it's that cool looking, elongated headstock that's the problem! It might fit but... I have a 1968 Greco copy of the Gibson Barney Kessel and I'm thinking the measurements are close. The Greco measures 3.75 deep (including PU depth and strings), 16.75 inches lower bout, 12.5 upper bout, and a whoppin' 43.5 inches (!!) from top to bottom (top of neck to bottom of strap pin). I also have an old Reunion Blues Continental bag and Greco BK barely fits from top of the headstock to the bottom of strap button. It's a tight fit but I can zip it all the way up. I wouldn't use the case for any serious transporting but for a grab-and-go gig, it's fine. It's a well-padded bag so it should protect the guitar. I saw on line that the RB Continental Voyager measures: Internal Length: 43 in
    Internal Upper Bout Width: 15 in
    Internal Lower Bout Width: 17 in
    Internal Depth: 3 in

    You can squeeze the BK in, tight fit top to bottom, and you might not be able to carry much in the front pouch. If that's not your cup of tea, then you might look for something a bit longer and deeper -- if such a bag exists. (Damn that cool looking, elongated headstock!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jads57
    Jack I bought a Reunion Blues Continental for my 16&1/2" Elferink Tonemaster archtop. It would easily fit your 17" BK.
    I think I paid under $200.and it's very heavy duty like a Mono bag.

    Look on their website under Continental Dreadnaught bags.
    no, i have the continental for my 175 and the kessel does not fit.

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    Bumme I thought it would. My Elferink has a longer headstock as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jads57
    Bumme I thought it would. My Elferink has a longer headstock as well.
    I can actually stuff it in there but there is a lot of pressure on the end of the headstock which wouldn't be good if it took an impact

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    I have a Mooradian bag for an L-5 and it's quite nice.
    Not sure if they are still making bags:
    Double Bass Covers, Gig Bags | Mooradian Cover Company

    I also have a great bag for an L-5, made by Levy's - canvas with leather trim or all-leather($$$$).
    Their website is useless, and they were bought out by Gator awhile back, so I'm not sure if they still make it.

    My guess is that either of these options, if available, is long enough for a BK. I can check with mine - what's the total length of the BK?
    Last edited by Hammertone; 07-25-2020 at 06:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammertone
    I have a Mooradian bag for an L-5 and it's quite nice.
    Not sure if they are still making bags:
    Double Bass Covers, Gig Bags | Mooradian Cover Company

    Levy's also used to make a great bag for an L-5 - canvas with leather trim or all-leather($$$$).
    Their website is useless, and they were bought out by Gator awhile back, so I'm not sure if they still make it.

    My guess is that either of these options, if available, are long enough for a Kessel.
    Thanks. The problem is that the kessel has the extra length on the headstock so a bag that fits an L5 isn't necessarily going to fit the kessel without additional pressure on the headstock. I'll check those out though.

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    You can have the Glenn Cronkhite Co make you one. Glenn started Reunion Blues back in the day and then his own company but recently sold it and retired
    I have 2 older leather bags for an L-5, in fact I sent him the template back then. They're the absolute best bags and also available in cordura.
    btw, he insisted it wasn't a good idea to have much space around the headstock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammertone
    I have a Mooradian bag for an L-5 and it's quite nice.
    Not sure if they are still making bags:
    Double Bass Covers, Gig Bags | Mooradian Cover Company


    I also have a great bag for an L-5, made by Levy's - canvas with leather trim or all-leather($$$$).
    Their website is useless, and they were bought out by Gator awhile back, so I'm not sure if they still make it.

    My guess is that either of these options, if available, is long enough for a BK. I can check with mine - what's the total length of the BK?
    Mooradian is kaput

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    The MONO Jumbo bag has these dimensions :
    Internal Dimensions: 17” x 44” x 5” (43.2 x 111.8 x 12.7 cm)

    So you can check with your guitar, easy.
    Jonathan Stout has written a report on his , uses it for his vintage L5 ....

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    My gig bags (price-performance) for larger full-hollowbodies (17"+) are the Ritter RGS7 Super Jumbo: Ritter RGS7 Super Jumbo MGB – Thomann UK

    Like most (former) violin players I like to put a cotton flannel cloth in the bag or case; it provides additional protection for carved instruments' plates, especially during the cold season. This bag allows to do so with my favorite 17.4" guitars. The BK does also fit in snugly - there's about one centimeter of space left lengthwise.

    Compared to the Mono bag the Ritter has one serious drawback: it misses the supporting cushion for the neck.
    No problem for a DIY-mind: look for a separate cushion (can be found cheap at many places or cut from foam material), select the length that YOU like for the neck, put it between the Velcro neck fastener of the Ritter, and you're done.

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    I have a lot of experience with body bags so when someone asks for a bag to fit "Barney Kessel" I really need to bite my tongue!

    But good luck with your quest for a bag to fit "a Barney Kessel"

    Sorry.

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    Unless I missed it, you haven't told us the BK's total length. I know it's 25-1/2 scale and the headstock is pretty long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Sound
    Unless I missed it, you haven't told us the BK's total length. I know it's 25-1/2 scale and the headstock is pretty long.
    i'd tell you except I don't have one yet. Trying to buy back one of the ones I sold.

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    as per an older thread here, I guess with its over sized head stock it was 44 inches long, why most cases fitting up to 42 or 43 hardly fit without adding pressure
    Last edited by vinlander; 07-26-2020 at 11:15 AM. Reason: typo

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    The total length of the older BK's (neck-to-body at 14th fret) is 43" (109cm).
    The length of identical looking bags varies often plus/minus 1/2", depending on the sewer.

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    Well look at the good side Jack Z there aren't many gigs to go to any longer. So maybe a hard case is a good option,lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jads57
    Well look at the good side Jack Z there aren't many gigs to go to any longer. So maybe a hard case is a good option,lol!
    Yeah I bought a new high-end amp and haven't worried about getting a cover for it yet! It's just doing basement studio duty, nowhere to go. The good, the bad, and the ugly.

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    Not cheap but these guys will make one for you. I had one and it was pretty nice.

    probagwebstartscom

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    Go custom with Blue Heron or Probag. Just gotta bite the bullet.

    And thanks to vinlander and jim soloway for the links to these two makers. I was not aware of Blue Heron and had forgotten about Probag.

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    probably won't go custom considering the few gigs there are out there. $120 for the Gator is probably the ticket...

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    That oversized headstock is real doozy to shop a gigbag for. Maybe find a sailmaker looking for a side gig to sew you one or modify the Gator by cutting the side and extending it with an elongated padded pocket?

    That could work effectively but it won't look very "guitar fashion accessory" nice. Those $965 Collings hardshell tolex-plywood cases...(in my best Al Pacino) Hoo hah!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwocky
    That oversized headstock is real doozy to shop a gigbag for. Maybe find a sailmaker looking for a side gig to sew you one or modify the Gator by cutting the side and extending it with an elongated padded pocket?

    That could work effectively but it won't look very "guitar fashion accessory" nice. Those $965 Collings hardshell tolex-plywood cases...(in my best Al Pacino) Hoo hah!!
    The gator jumbo fits fine. The issue is that that gig bag is not on the same level as levys or mono

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwocky
    Maybe find a sailmaker looking for a side gig to sew you one
    I've done just that some 35 years ago when living in Amsterdam - as a seafaring nation the Dutch love their sailboats and sailmakers were not hard to find. Cost me around 250 Gilders , not cheap.....
    The market for gigbags back then was so small, Reunion Blues prohibitively expensive in Europe and it took another 25 years before China was able to supply the cheaper ones for the western market.
    BUT when you compare the level of actual protection that a modern MONO bag offers with sewn in plastic re-inforcement shieds, a tough rubber "shoe" on the bottom etc. to a simple padded stuff-bag (more or less like those they sell for rifles etc) there is just no contest and the price is quite ok for what you get. Couldn't think of any alternatives, really ....
    I'm lucky to have recieved my Trenier in a super-posh BAM (France) case which is light weight and still very strong so I have faith in it to withstand normal travel in cars, busses etc. where I don't have an eye on it. When I got my Super-400 I actually bit the bullet and had a custom fiberglass-case made by Accordcase so the original "California Girl" Lifton case stays at home. The extra expense hurt back then but is long forgotten.
    You can't have the cake and eat it, too - learned that a long time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gitman
    The MONO Jumbo bag has these dimensions :
    Internal Dimensions: 17” x 44” x 5” (43.2 x 111.8 x 12.7 cm)

    So you can check with your guitar, easy.
    Jonathan Stout has written a report on his , uses it for his vintage L5 ....
    These are very well made and have full support for the headstock which, IMHO, is critical. Bad photo. 17" I was working on fits with room to spare. 25" scale.

    gig bag for barney kessel?-imgp6223-jpg

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    Exactly. It's not just the neck support in the MONO, but the bag itself offers structural support and protection. Unlike most padded gig bags, you can't 'fold' a MONO bag. Compare it to the exoskeleton of some animals. It really works.

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    So this is the Mono JUMBO bag. It's actually probably over large for a 1939 L-5 with a 25.5" scale. Even with the longer headstock, I think this would definitely fit your BK.
    gig bag for barney kessel?-monoopen-jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by jzucker
    The gator jumbo fits fine. The issue is that that gig bag is not on the same level as levys or mono
    Hi Jack,
    The Gator Jumbo is really not bad. I like mine a lot. Of course, it doesnt matter what Gigbag you have, its not going to give you the protection that your case will. But, I dont really think the higher end bags will give you THAT MUCH more.. Seriously Jack. The Gator bag is good quality and a steal for the price. I dont mind taking my Solid Formed out with it. Just be careful and dont drop it. A little bump here and there will be no problem. Save your money bro.
    I will not hesitate to transport my L5 in the Gator bag.
    It will protect your Barney and it will be lightweight and you wont be breaking people's legs with it when you can get into a packed elevator once again.
    Go with the Gator. You really dont need any more.
    JD

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    Jack, I have a closet full of gig bags a friend gave me that a few will fit archtops. I gave one to MarkRhodes.

    I won't throw them away if you can tell me the measurements you need my Tal Farlow (17" lower bout x 42" length) fits (snugly) one made by Road Runner. IIRC the BK is similarly sized. I'll send it to you in you want it.

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    thanks Gary, I ended up buying one of kessel's back. I should have it late next week (crossing my fingers). I will measure it when it arrives.