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  1. #51

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    TBH at the same time as being a little skeptical of low end Gibsons, I’ve never played an LP studio I haven’t liked.

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    I just took in a LP Studio Pro as a trade in that’s a phenomenal sounding guitar through an overdriven amp and it plays great too.

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    Yeah, I just don't like Les Paul's. Just not my bag.

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    PRS SE Zach Myers , light weight, and neck pickup is in correct position unlike SG model guitars.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...=1590514843177

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    Quote Originally Posted by jads57
    PRS SE Zach Myers , light weight, and neck pickup is in correct position unlike SG model guitars.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...=1590514843177
    Too pretty, and semihollow.

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    Actually just a veneer on the top. Also much more like a solid body weight relieved carved body style a la Gibson Pat Martino. Used to own one as well as a Gibson ES-339 . MUCH more solid body totally than the ES series laminates.

    Read the reviews on Radar Music and others. A Best Buy! Especially used around $500 or less!

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    Oh, let’s just quit fooling around. This is what you need!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    I think on the Guild front, the s100 is more my jam.

    I have a friend with a Gibson L6-S he doesn't play...wonder if he'd sell it? Its heavy too though, been a long time since I played it...
    L6-S has a 24 fret neck, which pushes the neck pup back toward the bridge and makes for a different sound. If you can deal with 24-fret necks, I know you said no LP's, but I used to have one of these:

    Gibson Les Paul DC Studio 1998 Cherry burst | Roberto's | Reverb

    They're MUCH lighter than a regular LP, and have a different vibe. The bridge pup sounds fantastic; the neck pup is brighter than is typical because of the position --good for overdriven sounds, but not for jazzy sounds.

    John

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    Eastman El Rey 3 -- you can still get a jazz sound out of it!

    Eastman Eastman El Rey ER3 Otto D'Ambrosio Signature | | Reverb

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    El Reys are very cool, but not what I'm after.

    I'll make my decision later this summer...the finalists are:

    SG Standard
    Lower priced PRS (Mira or satin S2 maybe)
    Guild S100

    Or if a cool loaded tele body popped up on ebay, I might go for it. Right now, there's nothing there that excites me much.

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    How about a D'Angelico Brighton?

    Premier Brighton (R) | D'Angelico Guitars

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    info from one of the best sg players out there today



    cheers

  14. #63

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77
    How about a D'Angelico Brighton?

    Premier Brighton (R) | D'Angelico Guitars
    Good lord, that's a stupid looking guitar.

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    Had this one almost 30 years. It’s a PRS take on an SG. Heavy, hot pickups not a first choice for jazz.
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    I just picked this up and it’s fantastic all around great guitar! Hamer Studio (96) with Duncan 59 in neck and JB in the bridge. I pulled out the alnico 5 magnets and replaced with alnico 2 and it’s really sweet!



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    hamer was the original prs of sorts..tried to make a better gibby solid type guitar...early on...joel danzig of hamer...they made some beautiful guitars...nowadays a brand owned by fmic...

    cheers

  18. #67

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    My best friend since high school has a Hamer Duo-tone, I think it was called...semi-hollow, with a piezo bridge...very cool guitar.

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    I'd like PRS guitars more without the birds. Is it just me?

    What about Keisels? New may be above your budget....


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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
    I'd like PRS guitars more without the birds. Is it just me?

    What about Keisels? New may be above your budget....


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    Lol, all the PRS models I like are dot necks. I agree, the birds are ridiculous.

    A headless like a Kiesel is very cool, but I've heard they have slim, shred style necks.

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    They are awful those inlays. Proper full price double cutaway PRS’s are such dweeby guitars. Which is a shame because they are legit good.

    At least Suhrs look OK, the Fender copies at least. The shred machines are ghastly.

    Lionel Loueke had a nice sparkly red PRS IIRC, looked like a Mira or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    A headless like a Kiesel is very cool, but I've heard they have slim, shred style necks.
    Bah, I think you are right. I stepped through their "guitar builder" and the only neck option was for an even thinner profile! Even so on their take on a Telecaster, although that model did have an interesting option: a 26.5" scale neck. Baritone, anyone?

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    I love the bird inlays on my '86 PRS Custom 24, as well as the birds on my other two CU24s. To each his own.

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    like my prs se custom 22...has single slash hole..tho not very semi-hollow sounding...and pre bird markers...moons!!

    has great vintagey gibby slightly beefy neck..real comfortable..and lightweight!

    this one's presently on sale at chicago music exchange



    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77
    They are awful those inlays. Proper full price double cutaway PRS’s are such dweeby guitars. Which is a shame because they are legit good.

    At least Suhrs look OK, the Fender copies at least. The shred machines are ghastly.

    Lionel Loueke had a nice sparkly red PRS IIRC, looked like a Mira or something.
    When I saw Lionel this past summer he played...one of those ugly D'Angelicos!

  26. #75

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    When I saw Lionel this past summer he played...one of those ugly D'Angelicos!
    I like the Brighton!

    But this might be more appropriate for a man of your advanced years, sorry taste:

    https://www.andertons.co.uk/spring-s...uitar-in-black

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    Lol, I honestly thought you posted the Brighton as a joke.

    But then again, you've probably been to Hastings, Brighton, maybe even Eastbourne too.

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    Dual Humbucker Solid Body Guitar Options-rev-roundhouse-jpg

    These are worth checking out too...7.5ish pounds, nice neck carve. Reverend make some very cool guitars.

    Roundhouse 2 | Reverend | Wildwood Guitars


    If you prefer Fender scale length, these are very cool too...

    STARPLAYER SPECIAL | Duesenberg

    Last edited by IbanezAS100; 05-28-2020 at 05:00 AM.

  29. #78

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    Why waste your time with all that greasy kid stuff? Get a proper chunk of mahogany.

  30. #79

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    Lol, I honestly thought you posted the Brighton as a joke.

    But then again, you've probably been to Hastings, Brighton, maybe even Eastbourne too.
    I'm actually from Brighton.

    Nobody goes to Eastbourne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77
    I like the Brighton!

    But this might be more appropriate for a man of your advanced years, sorry taste:

    https://www.andertons.co.uk/spring-s...uitar-in-black

    Very ergonomic .. more guitars should have a leg sized cutout on the lower bout .. Ideal for the older player that sits at most of his gigs

  32. #81

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77
    I like the Brighton!

    But this might be more appropriate for a man of your advanced years, sorry taste:

    ESP LTD FRX-407 7-String Electric Guitar in Black - Andertons Music Co.
    I can't see ESP without thinking of their ... Devil Girl guitar!


  33. #82

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77
    I'm actually from Brighton.

    Nobody goes to Eastbourne.
    Eastbourne... isn’t that where they place the dead in bus shelters with a ticket in their hand? What? They’re not dead? My bad, they just look that way

  34. #83

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    Oh, I'll just crank my poly tone with a preamp and an old big box RAT.

    Or maybe even just the lunchbox and some pedals.

    Semis are out because I've owned 4 different semis in my life and not bonded with any of them. I guess I'm just not a semi hollow guy.

    Les Pauls are out because they're overpriced and overrated, imho. I've never played an LP that I even kind of liked. Nothing that small should be that heavy.
    Try an Eastman SB59. You can find a pre-owned one for that money. It's lighter than most Gibson LP's and it gets raving reviews for it's tone, playability and workmanship. I have one with Amber Spirit of '59 pickups and the tone is unbelievable.

  35. #84

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    You should try the Harley Benton Fusion guitars available at Thomann.
    Made by Cort in Indonesia, set up by Thomann techs and IMHO best bang for buck you can get at the moment. Roasted maple neck, SS frets... check the specs here:

    Harley Benton Fusion-T HH Roasted FNT – Thomann Slovenia

    There is also a hardtail version, and a double cutaway (i have the double cutaway HSH version)

  36. #85

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    Definitely down to an SG or a PRS s2.

    Itll all depend on the best used price/model I can find in the next few months.

    Thanks for all the help/enabling

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    strat necks don't really fit teles, you can put it in, but the neck pocket is different, not a great idea

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    He can afford anything, playing a Revstar (also has been playing it on tour, back when there were tours)


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    Early to mid 2000s Gibson Les Paul Studios, amazing cheap guitars.

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    If not that, then this for sure.



    * Disclaimer:

    Solid wood quality.
    Duncan Jazz / JB pickups.
    Grover tuners.
    Tone Pros bridge.
    Graphtec nut.

    Solid specs , ignore metal company name on headstock.

    Disclaimer 2:

    If you like narrow , fat, slow lacquery necks like Gibson Les Paul, then this is super take in it.
    If not - avoid it.

  41. #90

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    Another proper one;
    Old Gibson SG Standards.
    Not sure about a price, but if you find something without high output rock and roll pickups.
    Amazing deal also.
    Same years as Studio, older models - 2nd hand.

    * Disclaimer also:

    Gibson quality has gone worse from earlier 2010s so.
    I like older 2000s model a lot better in terms of quality.
    Les Paul Studio Fadded from 2010-2011-2012 is a joke compared to "real" LP Studio from early years.
    I guess same applies for SG models.

    **

    Here u go, this should be okey start.

    Gibson SG Standard 2005 Ebony | Guitarbank | Reverb
    Gibson 2005 SG Standard w/demo video! | TC GAKKI | Reverb

    For sure I wouldn't get newer SGs so. If new SGs are like Studio Fadded from 2010 in terms of quality, then big no.

    I've heard on few places that early mid 2000s Gibsons are better quality then early 2010s Gibsons. I have witnessed that myself on Studio 05 vs Studio Fadded 2011.
    Not sure about 2017 and later so.
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    Sounds like you’re settled on the options but I just came across these. Price seems attractive and it gets great reviews.
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    My "go to" solid body with twin humbuckers is a MIJ 2016 Ibanez 2619 Artist Pestige. Made to exceptionally high standards it blow away many Les Pauls and SG's I've played - plus it has the added vesatility of two Super 80 trisound pickups (series, parallel and single coil) for a massive tonal palet. Mahogany body, flamed maple top, mahogany neck, ebony fingerboard, abalone inlays. Like a Paul, it's fairly heavy, but that comes with the type of guitar....
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    Last edited by Ray175; 06-29-2020 at 02:50 AM.

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    How about the 72 Tele Deluxe Reissue?

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    Damn, lovely guitars.

    Far better then new onces ....

    For 950 - 1000€ , worth it.

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    I had a mid 70s Guild S100 that was better than an SG.

  47. #96

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmic gumbo
    I had a mid 70s Guild S100 that was better than an SG.

    One of those coincidence/small world moments...
    Despite the OP clearly narrowing down his choice I'd a reply typed out ready to paste and then refreshed the page.
    I was going to suggest a 1970s Guild. I'd a S60(?) with two single coils, but I'd also played the equivalent with humbuckers and then tried another that was kind of an asymmetrical SG shape. Point I'm making is that they were all great guitars, as good as anything I'd laid my hands on at that stage.

    e: apparently it was a Guild S60-D -



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    Out of box thinking also.

    Ibanez has tons of models over the years.

    So it shouldn't be that hard to find older Prestige RG for 1000€.

    Only issue - needs pickup change for sure.

    And if you hate floyd, you are in trouble.

    But lovely guitars, tons of them are from mahogany.

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    Used Ibanez Prestige S1620FB Natural 2003 | Cream City Music | Reverb

    Something like this.

    I guess by ruling out Les Paul.

    Weight is issue.

    Saber series is okey pick for weight issue then. XD

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    Luckily for you, you have tons of options in 2nd hand for 1000€ price.
    Tons of lovely guitars.

    **



    Just before anyone says that I'm crazy ......

  50. #99

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    ^^^ The talk of Ibanez reminds me of a friend from years ago who despite being a limited player loved guitars.As far as I recall this was in the mid 80s. He had a number of Ibanez instruments, one of which was in the proverbial 'superstrat' form. It was black - black finish, black hardware, black binding etc. I remember the volume knob was a push/pull tap and that it and the tone controls were ribbed on the vertical. It had some sort of locking trem and the radius felt fairly flat. Point is, hardware/cosmetics aside it was a really nice Gibson feeling guitar, and I can't imagine how anyone who is comfortable with that kind of spec wouldn't at least give it a chance.
    There are a lot of nice 'sleeper' instruments out there worthy of consideration.

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    Why? XD

    I love Ibanez necks.
    Tiny bit thinner then Strat - me like.
    Wide string spacing - me like a TON.
    Fast neck, super fast - me like also. xD

    I hate slow, lacquer, FAT, narrow string spacing Gibson alike necks, D-shaped.

    Pain in the 455 to play. XD

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    My first neck was like that.
    Tung oil finish.
    Tiny bit thinner then Strat.
    Wide string spacing.
    It was best neck ever, believe me or not.
    Gosh it was amazing neck.
    Other necks compared to that, are joke to me.

    **

    Btw Ibanez Prestige is super high quality.

    Just Floyd is big no no for me.

    But super quality guitars.