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    I'm not really expecting anyone here to find these "attractive", but which of these do you prefer?

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    oh good god. I just threw up in my mouth LOL. Forced to choose, the butterscotch one. At least it's got some variation of color, it's somewhat "familiar". Unless "unique" is what you're after (judging by the entire thing, I'd say you are lol), then the white one.

    I guess.

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    I like the Strandbergs .. they have a cool modern esthetic. The humbucker version doesn't rub me in any way .. The tele wouldn't either if it wasn't that butterscotch on steroids banana yellow


    I do very much like their sunburst version and most of the other solid colors


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    Imo the black guard on butterscotch is a way too traditional look for such a design.

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    After googling a bit more, I found that the butterscotch doesn't look to bad when photographed in a non-marketing setup.




    Like wengr I do prefer a white guard tho


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    Of the two listed, the first one doesn't work less, if that makes sense. But the other teleish ones with white guards somehow resolve better. But the standard black guard has never been my preference, either.

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    I don't like either, will give neither my nod. This is my nor gate.

    I'm sure the luthiers as built 'em are broken-hearted.

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    I'm a fan of headless guitars so keep that in mind, but hearing you play over the years, I would probably opt for the neck humbucker version. Although from pure esthetics, I prefer the tele configuration. How about a DiMarzio 25th in the neck and a True Velvet in the bridge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob taft
    I'm a fan of headless guitars so keep that in mind, but hearing you play over the years, I would probably opt for the neck humbucker version. Although from pure esthetics, I prefer the tele configuration. How about a DiMarzio 25th in the neck and a True Velvet in the bridge.
    That's why I'm looking at both (as well as the sunburst T-Type posted above). I'm pretty sure that if I went with one of the T-types then I'd want to change the neck pickup. I was thinking of the Lollar PAF style mini-hum but the DiMarzio PAF types have been my go-to for so long that it's always a possibility. I'd probably leave the bridge alone since I never use it anyway.

    And for a bit of clarification, one of the attractions in these is that the neck is roasted maple with a roasted maple fingerboard. I believe will handle the extreme climate conditions here. Several of their models, including a couple of the T's, have rosewood board and they are definitely a no here. Humidity two days ago was 3% and in 6 weeks it's probably going to be about 90%.

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    The red one is the only color I would consider.

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    I would pick the humbucker one without the pickguard.

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    Oh man, this one is on my radar.

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    I liked the look of the mutated Tele less. The double-cutaway, double HB guitar didn't look quite so derivative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgosnell
    The red one is the only color I would consider.
    I actually like both the red and the blue but they only come with rosewood boards.

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    my only guitar is an 18" carved archtop - of the two I like the shape and style of the top one but the pickup arrangement of the "tele".

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    I think Strandbergs are pretty good. I have no preference for the humbucker equipped one, vs the Telesque one (though I already have Tele [Vintera 50s model, with a nice uber chunky neck like a '52! ]). My only desire, is, make mine a 7-string (I'm hankering for another 7-string guitar).



    I'd get a Strandberg 8-string, like Sarah Longfield (who happens to be from Madison) plays, but I can't get Ernie Ball Cobalts (one of the only lines of electric guitar strings I can use, no thanks to my nickel and stainless steel/chromium allergies [and no, I will not use coated strings - just what I need, for coating to peel off, exposing the nickel string underneath]) in 7-string sets, and Ernie Ball advised me NOT to use a bass string for an 8th string, due to the different construction of bass strings vs guitar strings.
    Last edited by EllenGtrGrl; 04-17-2020 at 10:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Soloway
    I actually like both the red and the blue but they only come with rosewood boards.
    That's a plus.

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    Maybe what they need is a headstock to make them visually less off-putting...

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    Of the original two, I prefer the look of the tele-style.

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    I like the tele-style too. (Just kiddin' bout the headstock...)

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    Would it be an issue to install a neck pickup if the single coils are routed to follow the bottom of the neck and the humbuckers are straight across?

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    I've been thinking of the chambered Swamp Ash or Alder models and swapping in a set of TV Jones T-Armonds (might leave a little gap on 2 sides) or Fralin's hum-cancelling P90 (I've got a set I haven't installed).

    I'm really liking the red.


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    I wouldn't go with the blackguard look (I agree with the poster who said it was too traditional for the design), but the second body shape is much more appealing. The tele burst that was posted is better, but if you're going ergo you might as well lose the binding and get bevels in all the right places.

    Jim, have you considered Novo Guitars (Dennis Fano)? Pricey for a bolt-on solidbody, but he uses all tempered woods, his designs are very well thought-out, and you would have an actual guitar in the end.

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    I tried a Carvin HH2 Holdsworth that was very similar in colour to the top photograph. It needed a coat of paint to make it stand out from the hardware.

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    I prefer the first one.

    My first impression of the second one is that someone is ripping off the heralded tele design. So, it turned me off. But, some tele owners may love the nod to the tele design. I feel differently.

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    I had an 8 string Boden from their first USA run many years ago (guitar is long since traded away), and I did like the shape of the guitar. Ola's proprietary neck shape is very interesting, but it can take some getting used to. The shape really wants you to play with thumb-behind instead of thumb around. I'd imagine on a 6 string, it probably wouldn't be as prohibitive feeling as it was on an 8 string.

    That all being said, the price on these are very high (IMO) for being an Indonesian import, and I'd probably go with a Kiesel Zeus or Osiris with basic specs and roasted neck/fingeboard for almost a grand less.

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    I didn't even notice they were different pickups... the pickups would make the decision for me, since I find them equally off-putting LOL

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    Mispositioned micro dots and slanted
    frets is just encouraging wrong notes.

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    Not... in... a... million... years...

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    I like the tele-ish one, but I'd prefer white blonde over butterscotch.

    I'd definitely like a ergo guitar someday. I'm a huncher. I need to encourage myself into some better posture.

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    One of the things to really consider is the 24 frets displace the neck position pickup further back. For me this has always been a problem,since the natural harmonics are at the 24th fret position.

    I've owned both Carvin Alan Holdsworth models Fat boy, and original thinner version, Steinberger, Parker Fly Classic, Music Man Silhouette models. They all had this issue, and one of the reasons I sold them all.
    Parker Fly Classic was the best at still retaining a fuller tone.

    I really don't mind the look of either Strandberg guitar. And applaud innovations to the guitar design. But it seems like most newer designs don't have that classic Jazz tone in mind. I'm sure that's not their market nor intended audience.
    Leo Fender found that out with his Jazzmaster in 1959.

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    I like the flame and natural finish of the top one. I bought a Les Paul Elegant back in the early 90s. They were doing some gorgeous transparent bursts on these in butterscotch, cherry, and other wild color gradients. I went with a natural top, no burst or color. Just the gorgeous AAAA flame maple. Still have that guitar and still love it.

    I know Steve Klein personally. I had him build a custom L45.7 with a Venetian cutaway for me years ago. He was contractually barred from building electrics under his name for some number of years after selling out his part of the Steinberger collaboration. He’s no longer bound by that agreement and is back in the electric game. I haven’t played any of his new electrics but my son played one recently and said it was incredible. Every Klein is incredible. He is a perfectionist and is incapable of building anything less than a stellar piece of functional art.

    (I realize the guitars in the OPs post aren’t Steinbergers but they look a lot like them. I am not familiar with the Strandberg brand. Are they related?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lukmanohnz
    I like the flame and natural finish of the top one. I bought a Les Paul Elegant back in the early 90s. They were doing some gorgeous transparent bursts on these in butterscotch, cherry, and other wild color gradients. I went with a natural top, no burst or color. Just the gorgeous AAAA flame maple. Still have that guitar and still love it.

    I know Steve Klein personally. I had him build a custom L45.7 with a Venetian cutaway for me years ago. He was contractually barred from building electrics under his name for some number of years after selling out his part of the Steinberger collaboration. He’s no longer bound by that agreement and is back in the electric game. I haven’t played any of his new electrics but my son played one recently and said it was incredible. Every Klein is incredible. He is a perfectionist and is incapable of building anything less than a stellar piece of functional art.

    (I realize the guitars in the OPs post aren’t Steinbergers but they look a lot like them. I am not familiar with the Strandberg brand. Are they related?)
    These are both import model lines produced by Strandberg. They are still quite pricey but less than the Strandberg models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSanta
    I had an 8 string Boden from their first USA run many years ago (guitar is long since traded away), and I did like the shape of the guitar. Ola's proprietary neck shape is very interesting, but it can take some getting used to. The shape really wants you to play with thumb-behind instead of thumb around. I'd imagine on a 6 string, it probably wouldn't be as prohibitive feeling as it was on an 8 string.

    That all being said, the price on these are very high (IMO) for being an Indonesian import, and I'd probably go with a Kiesel Zeus or Osiris with basic specs and roasted neck/fingeboard for almost a grand less.
    The price difference is actually only a few hundred and I've priced every Kiesel headless endlessly. I'd probably go with the Delos headless since it's available in 22 frets but there's no chambering and an up charge for picking out light weight wood. After working all that with them, they wouldn't ship it to Mexico. I also like the idea of fanned frets. I've played a few of the and really liked them.

    I think what I'd really like is the Salen (T-type) body shape without the Tele configuration or colors. I think it could look pretty good with a nice maple top, no pickguard and two humbuckers.
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    I like the cubist tele

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    I've seen that model in the flesh and it seemed less yellow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77
    I've seen that model in the flesh and it seemed less yellow.
    These are sweetwater photos. They seem to shoot everything under bright lights. In real lime I thin the color is closer to the traditional Tele butterscotch.

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    I’ve considered A Strandberg in the past, but more for fusion goals. So, I was looking at the Boden standard 6 tremolo (HSS format), or the Boden Masvidalian (single bridge hum)

    I love the single cut body shape of the tele version. I just think it would have been better executed as a single cut Boden with a tele pickup config, and not try to be a traditional tele with the pickguard and control plate.

    That said, I’d try the tele version before the standard version.

    That’s my vote.

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    I like the first one with the pale flamed maple top.

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    Jim, I like the white one.
    But if they made one in Koa.. I'd change my mind.
    JD

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    I found some of their R&D materials on the internet...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Soloway
    That's why I'm looking at both (as well as the sunburst T-Type posted above). I'm pretty sure that if I went with one of the T-types then I'd want to change the neck pickup. I was thinking of the Lollar PAF style mini-hum but the DiMarzio PAF types have been my go-to for so long that it's always a possibility. I'd probably leave the bridge alone since I never use it anyway.
    I got to give you props Jim, coming into this forum and asking for an opinion about a headless solid body is akin to asking about a classical with cutaway and a pickup on the Delcamps forum. Or a Subaru in a Ford F150 pickup forum. I'm a big fan of Lollar's PAF mini-hum. I have them in two guitars. In one (a telecaster) I have a Lollar mini-hum in the neck and a Lollar BS Tele in the bridge. Surprisingly to my ears they sound almost the same in this guitar. Only tonal difference being location. The Lollar to my ears provides the classic humbucker without being muddy.

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    I like Strandbergs, but the second one looks like Salvador Dali's Tele.

    Telecasters are iconic, and it looks too much like an inside joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
    I like Strandbergs, but the second one looks like Salvador Dali's Tele.

    Telecasters are iconic, and it looks too much like an inside joke.
    I both agree and don't. I actually like this body shape a lot. In fact, I like it better than their standard body shape but I would prefer it to not be a pretend Tele. I think with a nice top and a contemporary finish it would be a really nice platform for a pair humbuckers or a pair of P90s. I think it would actually be more attractive to a general audience rather than just metal and prog rockers and there's nothing about the body that screams to me "Tele". That's strictly a function of the configuration.

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    The white one.

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    To be honest. None.
    To me they look like something you'd hit your rival with on a battlefield. Which could make an interesting sound as a byproduct.

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    Strandberg did offer a really great looking shape that I really REALLY liked, but it was only available for a very short time (Strandberg Masvidalien 2014 Black rare USA made | The | Reverb).

    That being said, out of the Sälen versions, the vintage sunburst with the stylized 'F" hole is my favorite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSanta
    Strandberg did offer a really great looking shape that I really REALLY liked, but it was only available for a very short time (Strandberg Masvidalien 2014 Black rare USA made | The | Reverb).

    That being said, out of the Sälen versions, the vintage sunburst with the stylized 'F" hole is my favorite.
    That's really nice. Thanks.

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    Have you considered contacting Alistair at Emerald Guitars for a headless guitar. He has already made one and with the mold already made the cost should be reasonable. In 2015, I played the headless pictured on his website and the build quality was exceptional.