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    Yes, in the end, everybody seems to end up with a Telecaster. Ever since playing one at the Songbirds Museum back so long ago (a month??) I've wanted a Tele... so I picked up this "Road Worn" style 50's Telecaster Re-issue. It's like new and I'm having a lot of fun getting acquainted. The archtops are being a little bit snobbish about it all, though...

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    Happy New Guitar Day, lawson! Now plug it into the Princeton and turn that mother up!

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    A Tele and a Twin, lets here "Rumble"!

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    every jazzer needs a tele! hah

    congrats & enjoy

    cheers

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    Theres just no denyin' a Tele. I love my hollow guitars but if I could have only one instrument for the rest of my life...well...itd just have to be my tele.

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    As was said to me when I got a Tele, "Welcome to the bright side."

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    Nice, Lawson!

    Now, in the name of all that is holy, get a white or tortoise pickguard on that thing.

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    I've played a Telecaster for 50 years, and all the while played archtops.

    Welcome to the most versatile guitar experience ever.

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    Great guitar Lawson. In the late 80s I bought a Paul Reed Smith that had a multi position tone switch. One position converted the "humbucker" style pickups to single coils. In that position the guitar had that "Tele Texas" twang sound. For years I left the guitar on a stand and more likely than not, it was the first guitar I picked up to play or practice on.

    I know you'll use the Tele well and I have no doubt you'll take the time to record your playing so all of us can share that Tele/Fender Amp sound.

    Tony D.

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    I, being a telecaster addict, loves these models..

    The specs on the neck is my favorite combo! vintage 7.25 radius + 6105 (narrow tall =) frets.. playability and comfort! I love my vintage spec teles but this one takes the cake!

    Congrats!

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    Guys really the hardest thing to get used to is the lighter strings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    Guys really the hardest thing to get used to is the lighter strings.
    What strings do you put on your archtops? you can put anything on a tele.. Ive known guys use 12s.. heck SRV even put 13's (down tuned though) on his strats..

    if you bought that roadworn as new/old stock, that has 9's on it I think..

    I play 11's on all my teles and guitars.. that, combined with the 25.5 inch scale would feel a lot stiffer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    ... so I picked up this "Road Worn" style 50's Telecaster Re-issue. It's like new and I'm having a lot of fun getting acquainted.
    Dood, if it's "like new", then you got a defective one.

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    just for info


    as late as 1969 fender teles were coming from the factory with beefy pure nickel 12-52 rounds!!! w wound .026 g string


    tho flats are nice on 'em as well..and you don't even have to go that heavy..some thoms bebop 10's or 11's and you are good to go!


    cheers

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    I like 11s on mine. SIT 11s with wound 3rd have a good jazz sound IME. I have DR pure blues 11s on another, not sure on those yet.

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    Congrats Lawson!

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    My under-the-bed hang tags still on '66 Custom Telecaster came with 11-52 flatwounds. It was still in tune. And still wears 11-52s! Different ones, of course. I'm running SITs, these days, on this one. They really do Stay In Tune.

    You've got a great little axe there, Lawson. Congratulations, and play it in good health!

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    I think I need to give the truss rod a tweak. But it looks like you have to take the pickguard off to do that. Gotta woodshed some on Telecaster truss rods...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    I think I need to give the truss rod a tweak. But it looks like you have to take the pickguard off to do that. Gotta woodshed some on Telecaster truss rods...
    There's a tool from StewMac which you might be able to make at home. Alternatively,
    I have had success follow the example on a Fender tech video at this link:


    The neck does not have to be removed either way. Pickguard yes. Before I knew that
    I went the neck removal path. The fun part was that it was an epiphany to me that one
    can disassemble and reassemble a Fender bolt-on neck guitar and still have a functional
    musical instrument. Ingenious of Leo, really.

    I use .11 strings on my Nocaster and have used .12 on tele-style guitars in the past.

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    I second the SIT strings. I just got some a couple of months ago for the first time (good grief, they've been around for years) and they are excellent for jazz. I have two sets of 11s, the regular PW 1150 set the "Silencer" set. The latter aren't any smoother than the PWs!

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    Telecaster = fun all the time. Play in good health!

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    So heres a quick clip I banged out based on the Raney/Aebersold play-along, "Like Someone in Love." Playing the Tele through the Fender Tone Master Twin, using the XLR out for recording.

    I'd hoped to nudge the amp to the edge of break-up but I don't think I got there.

    Forgive the clams, and feel free to offer observations and advice on how I can do the Tele-Thing better.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    So heres a quick clip I banged out based on the Raney/Aebersold play-along, "Like Someone in Love." Playing the Tele through the Fender Tone Master Twin, using the XLR out for recording.

    I'd hoped to nudge the amp to the edge of break-up but I don't think I got there.

    Forgive the clams, and feel free to offer observations and advice on how I can do the Tele-Thing better.

    what settings are you on? You need to try the lowest power and try to dime the volume.

    if thats the real tube Twin, in order to get it to the edge of break up, it needs to be deafening, and you’re gonna need some ear protection. Ive done it, but outdoors and its a glorious sound.

    You may need an overdrive pedal to goose it even further. If you dont want to use that, then try the lowest setting and dime the amp. Twins are known for cleans, not driven tones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamingJazz
    what settings are you on? You need to try the lowest power and try to dime the volume.

    if thats the real tube Twin, in order to get it to the edge of break up, it needs to be deafening, and you’re gonna need some ear protection. Ive done it, but outdoors and its a glorious sound.

    You may need an overdrive pedal to goose it even further. If you dont want to use that, then try the lowest setting and dime the amp. Twins are known for cleans, not driven tones.
    It's the Tone Master Twin (See Title)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    It's the Tone Master Twin (See Title)
    i know, I read it. Thats why I asked what settings are you on and if it was a “real” tube, its gonna need to be VERY LOUD.

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    Also, try going into the 2nd input of Both in the normal and vibrato channel and dime that.

    this twin doesnt have a Master volume and your power settings will be “it”. So try lowest power setting, and dime the volume.

    the tele-thing is not hard. ive been playing telecasters exclusively for almost 15 years now. they’re the simplest thing and tones can be dialed in pretty quickly through whatever amp.

    here’s a few of what I primarily use;
    Untitled by D Y, on Flickr

    Untitled by D Y, on Flickr

    Untitled by D Y, on Flickr


    Ive veered away from 50s models (ash body+1pc maple neck config) as I like early 60s spec telecasters (alder+rosewood board) better in feel and looks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamingJazz
    i know, I read it. Thats why I asked what settings are you on and if it was a “real” tube, its gonna need to be VERY LOUD.
    The Tone Master is a digital model Twin Reverb, No tubes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    The Tone Master is a digital model Twin Reverb, No tubes.
    hi sir.

    i know. I read it. Same as the Tone Master Deluxe Reverb. They are digital modelling amps by Fender. I’m not a noob with this.

    i know. Ive been all over this model and the DR due to the back breaking weight of my Twin.

    i dont think you understand my point. My point is if it WAS a real tube amp, like if you are using a “real” twin, youd have to dime those volumes to get it to break up. But it will be VERY LOUD.

    in tone masters, you have the ability to dime it without being loud, by using the power attenuator settings, try it using the 1Watt setting and dime those volumes

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    So heres a quick clip I banged out based on the Raney/Aebersold play-along, "Like Someone in Love." Playing the Tele through the Fender Tone Master Twin, using the XLR out for recording.

    I'd hoped to nudge the amp to the edge of break-up but I don't think I got there.

    Forgive the clams, and feel free to offer observations and advice on how I can do the Tele-Thing better.

    Very nice, Dr. Stone! Thank you for sharing this.

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    With all this said......do you think you dig it, Lawson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamingJazz
    hi sir.

    i know. I read it. Same as the Tone Master Deluxe Reverb. They are digital modelling amps by Fender. I’m not a noob with this.

    i know. Ive been all over this model and the DR due to the back breaking weight of my Twin.

    i dont think you understand my point. My point is if it WAS a real tube amp, like if you are using a “real” twin, youd have to dime those volumes to get it to break up. But it will be VERY LOUD.

    in tone masters, you have the ability to dime it without being loud, by using the power attenuator settings, try it using the 1Watt setting and dime those volumes
    I see. It was not clear to me why you kept referring to "real tube" twins. I thought I was clear I wasn't doing that. I know all about the output power setting on the back and how to set up the levels on the front.

    It looks like we've just been talking past each other but I see what you mean now, and that's actually what I've been doing. Using the lowest 2 output power settings, and pushing the levels on the front up.

    But also, you're right, I got the twin because of its famous clean tone, and I would not want any break-up except in the Wes Montgomery zone.

    Thanks for your patience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    I see. It was not clear to me why you kept referring to "real tube" twins. I thought I was clear I wasn't doing that. I know all about the output power setting on the back and how to set up the levels on the front.

    It looks like we've just been talking past each other but I see what you mean now, and that's actually what I've been doing. Using the lowest 2 output power settings, and pushing the levels on the front up.

    But also, you're right, I got the twin because of its famous clean tone, and I would not want any break-up except in the Wes Montgomery zone.

    Thanks for your patience.
    No worries, its a bit hard to get ideas across using words and letters.. misunderstandings happen!!

    In my opinion, if you are looking for edge of break up tones, it will be better to use a lower watt amp in home friendly volumes, or use an overdrive pedal.. if you find that there are a lot of overdrives, and dont know yet what tone you want, you can try a "transparent" overdrive that wont color your tone..

    This is the exact reason why I use my Peavey Classic 30 most of the time because I want to be able to somehow work the amp's tone and add some clean boost, than using my twin.. I play in a church band.. and we have an amp room and all our amp's are mic'ed, so if I use the twin, Id drown out everyone.

    Also, here's a tip to dial in your telecaster..

    pickup heights - Since I dont like the neck pickup much, I tweak the heights to at least give me a really workable tone out of it, and match the bridges volume, and a bit more tweaking to get my desired bridge tone.. I dont care about the middle position since I rarely use it, so I need to have good neck and bridge tone separately.. I'm on the bridge pickup 98% of the time.

    The Tex-Mex pickups in that tele is very hot.. its kind of like Stevie Ray Vaughan type of tone.. its to stimulate SRV muscle at lower volumes (at least the Strat set), but its really nice overdriven, but to me.. I actually dont like it as I prefer lower output 60s style pickups, or at the very most, Broadcaster/Nocaster 50s pickups.. lowering your pickups might do some good if you want to..

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    To get that slight break up you are looking for, the Soul Food at about 20% or the classic Boss Blues Driver at the same setting will do the trick. Very sweet cleans until you dig in a little.

    As to your archtops being a little snarky about your Tele, stuffed shirts usually do act that way when you bring in an Alpha like a Road Worn Tele...just sayin'...lol.