View Poll Results: Is your main jazz guitar amp a solid state or a tube amp?

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  1. #101

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    If someone gave me a tube Twin Reverb that worked, I'd probably take it, especially since my basement isn't heated.
    I've had crappy tube amps, and solid state ones, too. I prefer solid-state, and I really prefer not having to carry ANY amp.

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  3. #102

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    This thread reminds me of the ongoing debate over "digital" vs "Vinyl". But a lot more civilized.

    When I'm in my play room, it's a Blackstar ID:Core 40 modeler. When I go outside(literally to play for the horses and cows) it's a Crate GX130C. When I'm just listening to music I plug my laptop into my Blackstar.

    When I want "ambience".............I go to a club and listen to some live jazz while sipping on some good bourbon.............

    I've been called a lot of things, but "sane" have never been one of them.........

  4. #103

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    This poll is definitely in the recount territory.

  5. #104

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tal_175
    This poll is definitely in the recount territory.
    No Kidding! Maybe the OP should have added another category e.g. tube SS combinations. Kind of like the Libertarian or Green Party.

  6. #105

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    Quote Originally Posted by JGinNJ;[URL="[URL
    tel:1064530[/URL]"]1064530[/URL]]If someone gave me a tube Twin Reverb that worked, I'd probably take it, especially since my basement isn't heated.
    I've had crappy tube amps, and solid state ones, too. I prefer solid-state, and I really prefer not having to carry ANY amp.
    of necessity , I recently did a gig with
    Drums Bass Keys me and a horn
    with just my pre-amp (Harley Benton American Sound type) direct into a PA system ....
    I didn’t expect that much TBH , but it was absolutely fine and in fact It also had the advantage of broader spread coverage
    ie. my sound was coming out of two speakers on either side of the stage ....

    this was outside ....
    not tried it indoors yet
    Obviously I still need to own a couple of
    amps , but for my needs ATM I think I’m further explore the no amp DI thing
    ——————
    PS i wonder if Fender are thinking about doing their Tonemaster Twin or
    TM Delux modelling circuits
    in a pre-amp pedal format ?

    as they’re SO well liked here , that
    would be very interesting to me

  7. #106

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    My wonderdawg pulled up lame again. and while it's guts are on the way to NV for some TLC, I jumped on a DV Mark Little Jazz to save me from the all acoustic life. I'm impressed with it. Quite a lovely tone with a minimum of fiddling. Is it as good as my wd? No. But an awesome backup that might be first choice when playing out becomes a thing again...

  8. #107

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    I have recently discovered the joys of the amps in GarageBand, which include combinations of reverb, echo and tremelo that are perfect for late-night low-volume playing.

  9. #108
    Play in STEREO and use BOTH!!!

  10. #109

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    I like both, but my main amps are tube. Ceriatone OTS Dumble clone and a cutdown '64 Super Reverb
    Since getting back into hollow body with the Greco, I've been playing the Yamaha G100-B212 that's under my desk. It's good!
    Maybe it's the extra richness of the 175 that makes it a good match with the SS Yamaha

    My other fave SS is the old Pignose 30/60. Warm sound, and loud enough for rehearsals
    I also have a 300W Woogie hybrid bass head which is a good spare for bass or clean pedal platform

    I've had lots of amps over 50 years, but the ones I miss are:
    brown Super 2x10
    BF Princeton Reverb
    BF Deluxe Reverb
    Marshall plexi 50W reverb head
    Goldentone 40W combo

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  11. #110

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    For me it really depends on the gig but I'd say 95% of the time I've used a solid state amp. I'm young at 27, but I don't want to have back problems later down the line. When I'm in the US, I keep my 42 lbs Vintage Sound 35sc tube amp mainly as a practice and recording amp. Don't get me wrong, it's by far the best sounding amp I've ever played through, but it's very heavy and the tubes made nowadays are fragile and microphonic. I'm using a Quilter Microblock 45 going into a Toob Metro 6.5 GP+ cabinet which in total weighs roughly 4 lbs and I couldn't be happier with my sound on gigs.

  12. #111

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    Tube amps mostly, but I do have some solid state amps that sound better than most tube amps. One that's especially great is a 1965 Standel Custom XV. That and my '65 Vibrolux were my main amps for a long time til I got a 50's Standel 50L15 which took the place of the Custom XV. One is all tube, the other 100% solid state, but they are very similar in sound.

  13. #112

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    Quote Originally Posted by brettlanier
    Tube amps mostly, but I do have some solid state amps that sound better than most tube amps. One that's especially great is a 1965 Standel Custom XV. That and my '65 Vibrolux were my main amps for a long time til I got a 50's Standel 50L15 which took the place of the Custom XV. One is all tube, the other 100% solid state, but they are very similar in sound.


    Standels are a benchmark. You are most fortunate!

  14. #113

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    Home : fender BF vibrolux clone or fender tweed champ clone.
    Live: Henriksen blue ten . Ligth, loud, and so good to play clean and warm.
    Home i like to play jazz but also funk, blues, rock or metal and tube amps are requiered. For my outside jazz gigs, nothing can beat thé Blue ( i used to havé thé DV mark LJ... thé gap is huge!!).
    JuHo


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  15. #114

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    My amps use valves. We proved "scientifically" like 15 years ago that these sound better by recording a track with a polytone and a humble fender blues junior. Everybody agreed the Fender's tone was better. So I've been using the Blues jr. and later a Vibrolux.

    That said lately I didn't use an amp but a tech 21 fly rig preamp – solid state emulating a tube amp and speaker – direct to PA and I have been happy with the tone I hear in my in-ears. So maybe I'm tone deaf anyway ... OTOH engineers and band have been happy with what they get from my channel too.

  16. #115

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    I’m using all three types.

    I have a Fender Princeton Reverb II combo amp that sounds great for jazz guitar.
    I have a Crate BX100 bass combo amp that sounds great for jazz guitar.

    And I have a Hartke solid state bass amp, with tube preamp, that sounds great both for bass and for jazz guitar.

  17. #116

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    just did a band rehearsal with a
    current ish SS Marshall 1 x 12” combo
    it was absolutely fine ....
    (i even had the reverb on a bit)

    sooo nice to to play with people again

  18. #117

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gitfiddler
    NO solid state amp that I am aware of has the equivalent of tube amp sag. If there is one out there that can replicate the effect of a rectifier tube, please tell me about it. That might not be the first quality sought after in a jazz amp, but it is definitely something I want, since I don't always play jazz. That tiny bit of amp squishy-ness or on the edge of distortion tone has existed since tube amps were created, and some of our favorite jazz guitar recordings have it.

    Solid state amps have many benefits over tube amps, such as reliability, lighter weight, and smaller size. But sag? I say, bring it!
    These came pretty d*** close. They had a huge heavy toroidal transformer. Too bad it was too expensive and ahead of its time in the 80's.

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  19. #118

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    NO solid state amp that I am aware of has the equivalent of tube amp sag.

    True, sag is introduced by the ‘breathing’ of a tube rectifier power supply responding to changes in current demand in the amp. Solid state rectifiers work completely differently and are designed to eliminate that varying response to current demand.

    However, let’s talk about the time dynamics in the response of an amp as I think it figures more prominently than sag in playing feel. That means the:

    The Walter Woods amp.

    Walter (from a conversation with him) looked at the turn on rate of older transistor designs till he found a design with a slow slew rate similar (not equal but close) to a vacuum tube. He sourced these IIRC from Japan.
    It results in an amp with a response similar to a tube amp, very dynamic to play unlike most other solid state amps using ‘modern ‘ transistors. Power transistors (or Heaven forbid, integrated circuit amps) have fast slew rates and can not present the player with a tube like experience.
    The Woods amps use a toroidal power transformer, which is small and light for a given specification with discreet diodes for rectifiers. This is much better than using a chip rectifier there’s at least some sag. But The power supply will not ‘breath’ or ‘sag’ like an amp with a tube rectifier.
    FWIW the Woods amps were used by Tal, Barney Kessel, Herb Ellis, Charlie Bird, John Pattitucci, Ray Brown, Lionel Hampton, me)
    No one we’ve heard of.
    d

    (interesting that a hifi company did exactly the same thing...Adcom... which had one of the KLH founders as its designer. They were located in a town I lived in and I had the chance to talk to them. Exactly the same story...use old design transistors to emulate tube slew rates. Neat!)

  20. #119

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzkritter
    (interesting that a hifi company did exactly the same thing...Adcom... which had one of the KLH founders as its designer. They were located in a town I lived in and I had the chance to talk to them. Exactly the same story...use old design transistors to emulate tube slew rates. Neat!)
    Yes! Check out my original Adcoms in the center of the picture.

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  21. #120

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    WooHoo!!!
    Thats the preamp/tuner with the remote control, yes? I have that one, still in service along with the smaller 35wt amp into Klipsch KG4s. Vintage 1986 and still sounds great. Input a Clark Technik bluetooth receiver with them to modernize)
    They were in. East Brunswick NJ when the started out.

  22. #121

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzkritter
    WooHoo!!!
    Thats the preamp/tuner with the remote control, yes? I have that one, still in service along with the smaller 35wt amp into Klipsch KG4s. Vintage 1986 and still sounds great. Input a Clark Technik bluetooth receiver with them to modernize)
    They were in. East Brunswick NJ when the started out.
    It's just the 555 preamp withe the big 200w amp. There are two tuners on top of it, a Proton, and a Magnum Dynalab.

  23. #122

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    Very nice. My number one is a Dynaco PAS-3x (Jensen mods )and a ST 70.

  24. #123

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  25. #124

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzkritter
    Very nice. My number one is a Dynaco PAS-3x (Jensen mods )and a ST 70.

    that's what I've been running the last 25 yrs though I eventually swapped out the PAS for an old Lafayette KT-600 like this one...



  26. #125

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    Been running an Adcom 24/7 for the last 25 years without a hiccup. Tremendous amplification.

  27. #126

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    I like my Henriksen JazzAmp 110ER a lot - loud, warm, clean and with the tweeter engaged, nice for acoustic guitar. I don't care for the onboard reverb, so I use a Keeley reverb pedal that has spring and plate settings.

    I also have an old Polytone that gets THAT sound - not necessarily my favorite sound, but a very familiar one to Joe Pass/Herb Ellis '70s/'80s fans. I've used it more for bass than anything.

    I have a modified Fender Blues Junior with upgraded tubes and a hemp cone speaker, but it's best for stuff where you want some breakup or overdrive.

    I had a 1980s solid state Yamaha G-112 that I wish I had never parted with - beautiful clean tone.

    The Henriksen is the mainstay.

  28. #127

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    I love the feel and response I get from my 5e3.

    Tubes all the way for me.

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    5e3 --

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  30. #129

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    A perennial question with perennial answers. As I sit and think about this, I've come to the conclusion that the performance of any given type of amp is pretty specific to that amplifier. I have played solid-state amps that sounded fantastic and solid-state amps that sucked; I have played tube amps that sounded fantastic and tube amps that sucked. Sometimes these are the same models. I would say the solid-state amp are a little more consistent from one example to the next than is the case with tube amps.

    My current two favorite amps are my 5E3 clone and my Polytone Baby Taurus. Other amps in the house include an AI Clarus 2r with either a Redstone 8" cab or a RE 12" cab, Roland Cube 60 COSM, Egnater Rebel 30 combo and a Fender Pro Reverb (pre-master volume, ca. 72-73). They all sound good to great but other than the two favorites rarely get used. I need to just sell them off and make some room, along with the guitars I never play. I wouldn't even think about taking the Fender to a gig as it weighs about 80 pounds (it has two JBLs instead of the stock speakers)- I'm 61 and I am not sure that I could even pick the darn thing up off the floor let alone carry it down the stairs, out of the car and get it in the trunk.

    So why are those two my favorites? They are tiny to small-ish in dimensions and weight. I can easily transport them. I like their appearances and my wife thinks they look decent enough to leave out in the living room. But more importantly they sound very warm and flatter my guitars and my playing. The 5e3 has a very round, sweet top end which I particularly like with the tone on 3. I have had to modify it (Bruce Collins/Mission Amps humbucker mods) to reduce the bassiness, as it feeds back like crazy with my archtops otherwise. And it sounds really great with my Tele and my Strat too.

  31. #130

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    I am hearing that the new Fender Blues Junior lV is great. Any experience with this amp for jazz guitar?
    Thanks. Alan

  32. #131

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    Quote Originally Posted by RationalAlan
    I am hearing that the new Fender Blues Junior lV is great. Any experience with this amp for jazz guitar?
    Thanks. Alan
    i have the Fender Blues Jr IV. I love it for Jazz. It’s got the tube warmth and feel an perfect wattage (15 Watts) for small venues. But you should try one out for yourself.

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    Many thanks. I'll give it a listen. Regards, Alan

  34. #133

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    Loving these 2 heads and Raezers edge Custom Mini 6 cab. You would be amazed as I am with the tone quality. Dire hard tube guy here also.
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  35. #134

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    I'm not playing amplified jazz right now, but I imagine this amp would cover that too. PRRI SE 12" 15w 33lbs. The clean tones are amazing. I also have to play seriously heavy overdrive in church music weekly which it does equally well, especially with the Celestion which has created a very big sound (can't get it up to 4). Light enough that even with my 66 year old back I don't have to consider investing more in another amp.
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  36. #135

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    Thanks Roy. My back turned 76 this month, damn it! I sold me Deluxe Reverb to a young guy with a young back.
    as my old German professsor used to say, (Too soon oldt ... too late schmardt!). So I need tube tone with portability. Now I can go buy one..
    Thanks, Roy. Alan

  37. #136

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildcat
    Loving these 2 heads and Raezers edge Custom Mini 6 cab.
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    I love the pen for scale. Always useful to provide a clue for scale!
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    Sorry for the confusion as that particular pen is 2 meters in height. Its a display model.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hammertone
    I love the pen for scale. Always useful to provide a clue for scale!

  39. #138

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    My latest mini-stack. The Koch Studiotone (with a massive 20 watts of Class A EL-84 tubey goodness) fits perfectly atop the Avatar 1x12" cube, loaded with a Tone Tubby AlNiCo Hempcone. It's 8 miles high, maaaan:
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