Reply to Thread Bookmark Thread
Posts 1 to 17 of 17
  1. #1

    User Info Menu

    a heads up up for a great new
    demo of the various Toob Metro 6.5” speakers as played
    by Jazz guitarist Petri Krzywacki , with a TC Bam200 head

    incredible that you get that much sound from such a small light package

    I have the eminence version 6.5 lbs and I love it ....


  2.  

    The Jazz Guitar Chord Dictionary
     
  3. #2

    User Info Menu

    Thanks for posting Pingu. Wonder what price tag it will have? The Toob site says "TBA".
    By reference the 12" Toob speakers come in at around 500€, so I guess they will be a little less...... Funilly enough the BAM200+Toob is a configuration I'm considering for my Höfner Violin bass so a to take up a minimum amount of space in my music room - the video shwos that it's a nice amp and it could be fun to alternate my guitars through as a break from playing the ToneMaster Deluxe Reverb.

  4. #3

    User Info Menu

    Hi all! The MSRPs in Finland (incl. 24% VAT) are EUR 239 for 6.5 GP (20W Jensen) and EUR 269 for 6.5BG/FR (130W SICA Neo). We can sell direct for a little less, and non-EU buyers pay no tax. Pingu has a 6.5GP with a 100W Eminence Alphalite 6A, same as on the vid's Custom model. That tends to be too pricey for trade channels but is another option for direct customers. BTW, legendary session guitarist Tim Pierce now owns a telescopic TOOB 10T and plans to use it in studio work. Check out our FB and Instagram pages.

    Sorry if this sounds too commercial, but I think Ray's straight question deserves a straight answer.

  5. #4

    User Info Menu

    Hi Gitterbug - thanks for the straight reply. Those prices look good. As I continue to equip my little home studio iI want to have a bass amp with XLR and have looked at the TC Electronics BAM200 - it has XLR out, which is what I want, and looks to be a good match with one of the Metro speakers. It's not on the top of my purchasing list yet, but maybe later in the year?

  6. #5

    User Info Menu

    Thanks, Ray! The BAM is a super value, although price seems to be notching upwards. For a bit more punch and a four-band eq, the G+K MB200 stands next in line, but costs almost 3X. I got my first one from Musikia in Paris.

  7. #6

    User Info Menu

    In the US the MB200 is only about twice the cost of the BAM. Which is still a big difference, of course. I bought mine long before the BAM was introduced. If I were buying today I would seriously consider the BAM, but I don't need both. The Toob is attractive, but I don't schlep stuff around much these days, so the cabinets I already have are more than enough for me. If I were starting over, I would certainly consider a Toob of some size, but I hope I never have to.

  8. #7

    User Info Menu

    Quote Originally Posted by sgosnell
    In the US the MB200 is only about twice the cost of the BAM. Which is still a big difference, of course. I bought mine long before the BAM was introduced. If I were buying today I would seriously consider the BAM, but I don't need both. The Toob is attractive, but I don't schlep stuff around much these days, so the cabinets I already have are more than enough for me. If I were starting over, I would certainly consider a Toob of some size, but I hope I never have to.
    I was able to get my old MB200's at bargain prices by shopping used on the bass forums.

    And Gitterbug it's very hard for me to get gear in and out of Mexico but at some point I think I'd really like one of the 6.5 Toobs. I've said it before but it deserves to be repeated: I'm really pleased to see you stick it out and find some success. Innovation deserves to be rewarded.

  9. #8

    User Info Menu

    What a great idea. I really liked the Eminence one.

  10. #9

    User Info Menu

    That sounds way better than it has any right to.

  11. #10

    User Info Menu

    I unloaded my Toob (w/GSS mini amp). It was a brief, stormy romance. Light enough, loud enough---but I hated the sound. A muddy, body-less soup.

    Just my opinion...

  12. #11

    User Info Menu

    Quote Originally Posted by joelf
    I unloaded my Toob (w/GSS mini amp). It was a brief, stormy romance. Light enough, loud enough---but I hated the sound. A muddy, body-less soup.

    Just my opinion...
    Which version (speaker) was it? And what guitar?

  13. #12

    User Info Menu

    Chiming in, I know it was a 12J. The first owner sold it, as he had taken delivery of a telescopic 10T (and another, and a 6.5 prototype). There's some 50 12J's in operation, and users typically characterize them as crisp, articulate and separating, almost hi-fi. "Muddy" to me is the unexpected opposite. I have no first-hand experience of the GSS amp in question. Many 12J users rely on DV Mark Micro 50s or Quilter 101Rs. I have just ordered a Raezer's Edge Luna 200R for what I expect to be a match made in Hel(sinki).

  14. #13

    User Info Menu

    Quote Originally Posted by Gitterbug
    . I have just ordered a Raezer's Edge Luna 200R for what I expect to be a match made in Hel(sinki).
    Isn't that a bit overpowered for many of your TOOBs? My 10R is capped at 100 watts (8 ohms) and I run it with an approx 80 watt SD power amp (170/4 ohms) with a Jr Barnyard/El Pescadoro in front. It is plenty loud enough for big band rehearsals, crisp, clear and audible to all in its upright position, but a bit underpowered (front-facing) for perfomances where we rarely have a PA.

  15. #14

    User Info Menu

    Quote Originally Posted by Gitterbug
    I have no first-hand experience of the GSS amp in question. .
    The GSS amp is 50w into 8 ohms. The eq section is similar to the BAM200, with mid @ 400 hz, but with much available less treble, which some might characterise as muddy. It's an amp with a separate power adapter. I have both, so can compare them.

  16. #15

    User Info Menu

    Quote Originally Posted by pcjazz
    Isn't that a bit overpowered for many of your TOOBs? My 10R is capped at 100 watts (8 ohms) and I run it with an approx 80 watt SD power amp (170/4 ohms) with a Jr Barnyard/El Pescadoro in front. It is plenty loud enough for big band rehearsals, crisp, clear and audible to all in its upright position, but a bit underpowered (front-facing) for perfomances where we rarely have a PA.
    As a SS, the Luna doesn't have to be cranked all the way up to deliver the mojo, I hope. Plus, pairing a 12J and 12R sounds great on the rare occasion where serious stage volume is needed. There will be a YouTube demo video on this soon, with guitarist Petri Krzywacki and bassist Ilkka Hanski performing "Mercy, mercy" at the Helsinki Tonefest. The amp was a DV Mark Micro 50M. In our test corner, I can't crank it much above 12 o'clock on clean, without my ears hurting. The dirty channel brings out the tears.

    This evokes the eternal question of tube vs SS wattage. A watt is a watt, right? OTOH, Fender's new Tonemasters are 100W and 200W, "comparable to" 22W and 85W all-tube. Pressure washer vs. fire hose? I'm sure someone has made actual SPL comparisons between tube and SS amps, but haven't seen any such data.

  17. #16

    User Info Menu

    Quote Originally Posted by ruger9
    Which version (speaker) was it? And what guitar?
    I think J10? It was a 10 inch speaker. I think the mini amp was the culprit anyway. Horrible, muddy yet thin tone. No body. A speaker only amplifies the sound already there. (Guitar is a Godin 5th Ave. Kingpin).

    But there's no accounting for taste. People swear by AER. I bought one b/c I was moving to Europe and it had a N. Europe current switch. But I may as well have played through a scalpel---sterile. Couldn't wait to dump it, and was lucky it was new enough to get most of my money back...

  18. #17

    User Info Menu

    You're right, a 10J instead of the std 12". My bad. But this is the same "motor" with a smaller cone, so the tonal difference is very small. Much as I like my Kingpin, it gets very little air time due to its short, sharp and dry bark. When it was new, I changed the strings three times (stock>flat>half rounds) within a week before returning to .12 roundwounds.