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470jl...
ron ellis pickups
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01-18-2020 07:03 PM
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ps- officially premiered at namm today..tho julians been using one on recent gigs...
From Collings' site:
Collings 470 JL #
Collings Guitars and Julian Lage have joined forces once again to create something truly special - the Collings 470 JL. Refining the details of classic lines, feel and features, the 470 JL was conceived and crafted to provide access to uncharted levels of expression and dynamic range for guitarists who know no bounds. Featuring specially designed Ron Ellis pickups, exhaustively selected components and a unique trestle block design, the Collings 470 JL delivers a trueness of tone and response like none you’ve experienced before. Available in stores Summer 2020. More details to follow!
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Hmmmm, it kind of looks like a variation of a Gretsch Duojet.
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Originally Posted by EllenGtrGrl
saw it on the gdp!! and know there are many lage fans here!
a tweaked duojet no doubt
interested in the bracing and chambering collings is using...and the ellis dyna pup variation
almost like a stephen stern custom shop gretsch
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'for the guitarist that knows no bounds...' Well, I know a bound or two. And wish they had done their version of a 30's L5 for Lage instead.
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The guitar looks really nice and no doubt will sound and play well, since it's Collings and they make good stuff. The Gretsch heritage is obvious. But the Madison Ave. marketing speak is really annoying. "...uncharted levels of expression and dynamic range for guitarists who know no bounds?" Eccchh.
Maybe that stuff sells guitars and there's a reason I'm not in marketing
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I wouldn't look twice at it if it was in amongst many other guitars, but that might well be a mistake. Interested in the tressle!
Yes, the marketing guff would put me off it as well.
I think there is more to this guitar than meets the eye.Last edited by Rob MacKillop; 01-19-2020 at 11:02 AM.
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Originally Posted by Cunamara
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It did (thanks)
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If this guitar did not have Julian Lage attached to it people on this forum would be screaming bloody murder about the Bigsby.
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Looks like he has been using it a lot...
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Originally Posted by Spook410
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lage has been playing tele's and the duojet for years now!! what's the surprise??
it's his sig model and he chose the above^...if he wanted an L5 i'm sure he would have gone that route
having said that. don't dismiss the above collings till all facts are in!! if you like lage then trust his instincts..and we know collings makes wonderful guitars...the pickup maker ron ellis, is considered one of the current be$t
lastly, the guitar got its premiere showing at latest lage gigs and this weekends namm show..the guitar is 6 months away from release... look at the blurb ^ as a teaser not a spec sheet!!
patience!...
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Yep. He had a tele at the Vanguard this weekend in NYC.
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The Duo Jet on Julian's recent album Love Hurts (highly recommended!) is apparently owned by Jeff Tweedy of Wilco. A 1956 model. Or so I've read on the innertubes.
I'm sure the Collings won't be cheap--but I'm also sure it will be of exquisite quality.
I wonder how the price--and the sound--will compare to a vintage Duo Jet?
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Originally Posted by neatomic
While Lage is an amazing player, what do I care what he wants? Artist schmartist. I want the Collings 30's L5.
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It is a $7000 street price Duo Jet for the Collings fan who wants a Duo Jet made by Collings.
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Originally Posted by Patlotch
I'll make do with the Terada-made Duo Jet...Fun factor is the same at close to 35.7% of the price.
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It makes me glad that I didn’t sell my old DeArmond M77T.
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I really like Collings guitars, and while outside of my budget, I'm excited what their take on this classic design will feel and sound like.
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What’s interesting is that the collaboration believes there is a market for this guitar at the price point noted. If so, we might be experiencing more disposable income entering the guitar market for these type purchases.
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The marketing formula of having the best players play your instrument/amp/pedal (insert item here) is an old and proven technique by musical instrument companies. The wider the audience, the better. Collings is a fine small factory and makes some great instruments. Ron Ellis winds some outstanding pickups (I have some in a Tele).
That said, an expensive, Gretch derivative / Bigsby installed guitar with a Julian’s endorsement is a specialty item with a finite target audience of potential customers. It is however a great means to get people over to one’s NAMM booth, which may have been their intention. It provides Julian with a replaceable travel guitar (likely gratis) providing him with the ability to leave his vintage Gretch instrument at home. Julian sounds great no matter what he plays (e.g. the key property of all good endorsees).
For me, not a guitar that I would ever want to play. For others, a dream guitar I suppose.
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Originally Posted by neatomic
Last edited by Jim Soloway; 01-20-2020 at 12:53 PM.
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Originally Posted by Chazmo
Used Ibanez AF 207 7-string archtop
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