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    Just a quick clip. I used a bit too much reverb for usual playing, but worked great for this.

    I'm very pleased...my microcube always sounded better recorded that it did to me in the room...this lil guy sounds great in the room too. And the backing track is going through it as well.

    Let me know what you think.


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    Pic or it didn't happen.
    Lol

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    Sounds really nice. You just recording that direct through your phone's microphone?

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    Sounds good. Which version did you go with? My daughter bought me the base model as a birthday present because we could not find an original THR10C for sale here.

    It would be interesting to see/hear what settings people use if there are enough of us here with these amps.

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    Sounds great, Jeff. I have the first 10c. What's the difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob MacKillop
    Sounds great, Jeff. I have the first 10c. What's the difference?
    Hi Rob, I made a post with a rough comparison between the 10C and 10II models a while back. This should link to it: Yamaha THR Amps

    Cheers and Happy Hogmanay!

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    Sounds like a proper amp, Jeff and great playing too!

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    That sounds really good, Jeff. The amp model has some amazing depth and detail - I mean that sounds almost exactly like real children.

    John

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    Thanks for listening!
    So to answer a few questions...

    This is recorded with just my phone, no external mic.

    This is the THR10ii, non wireless version.

    The difference between this and the older model is this is actually 20watts instead of 10, and the amp is a bluetooth ready device. So I can play a backing track right from my phone through the same amp as I'm playing through, with an independent volume control for it.

    I think there's also more choices in the models, there's actually an app you can use to have more control over the effects too.

    Pretty great practice amp.

    The "wireless" models, which cost more, have a rechargeable battery and can be used with a particular wireless system. Pretty cool, but j don't own said wireless system, and probably wouldn't use that capability anyway. As for the rechargeable battery, for my use this amp is going to live in my living room, so I don't need it to be portable--i still have a microcube for that which still can't be beat for portability

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    Same here (THR10 II stays in the living room). That clean channel with a little gain and verb is just fat and heavenly. I play iReal pro backing tracks into the amp via Bluetooth on my phone too and the individual volumes for guitar and external source make it the best practice setup I’ve ever used.

    Thanks for sharing. Sounds great!

    Roli

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    Thanks for listening!
    So to answer a few questions...

    This is recorded with just my phone, no external mic.

    This is the THR10ii, non wireless version.

    The difference between this and the older model is this is actually 20watts instead of 10, and the amp is a bluetooth ready device. So I can play a backing track right from my phone through the same amp as I'm playing through, with an independent volume control for it.

    I think there's also more choices in the models, there's actually an app you can use to have more control over the effects too.

    Pretty great practice amp.

    The "wireless" models, which cost more, have a rechargeable battery and can be used with a particular wireless system. Pretty cool, but j don't own said wireless system, and probably wouldn't use that capability anyway. As for the rechargeable battery, for my use this amp is going to live in my living room, so I don't need it to be portable--i still have a microcube for that which still can't be beat for portability
    Can you record USB direct from the amp? If so I'd love to hear a sample. (Great playing BTW)

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    Quote Originally Posted by John A.
    ... The amp model has some amazing depth and detail - I mean that sounds almost exactly like real children.
    Is that a modeling feature?

    Great playing Jeff...Thanks for making video and posting it.

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    Don't worry about the reverb, sounds great.


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    Jim, here’s a snippet I just recorded from the usb out of the THR10 II. Straight into GarageBand on my iPad. Backing is iReal Pro.

    Roli


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    Quote Originally Posted by rolijen
    Jim, here’s a snippet I just recorded from the usb out of the THR10 II. Straight into GarageBand on my iPad. Backing is iReal Pro.

    Roli

    Sounds quite good. And you're swinging nicely.

    USB to what? How are you going into the iPad?

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    Am I the only one who is sorry for 10C not being introduced in 2nd generation?
    I was always drown to 10C idea. Shame there is not one in 2nd gen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    Sounds quite good. And you're swinging nicely.

    USB to what? How are you going into the iPad?
    Thanks! I have an iPad Pro 11”. I use a usb-b to usb-c cable to connect the THR10II direct to the iPad. In GarageBand, I select the stereo input and it works seamlessly with the Yamaha amp.

    I assume that it would also work with iPads with lightning port using the Apple Camera kit (or Lightning to USB adapter. Then using a standard usb-a to usb-b cable.

    One thing, when I first tried running the amp into the iPad, the signal level was pretty low. But, I found that the app (THR Remote) allows you to set the usb output level. The default was 50 and I have found that 95 to 97 gives fat rich results. When I recorded this clip, the output was at 80 or 90 (I hadn’t found the sweet spot yet). I’ve subsequently settled on 95.

    Roli

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    Quote Originally Posted by rolijen
    Jim, here’s a snippet I just recorded from the usb out of the THR10 II. Straight into GarageBand on my iPad. Backing is iReal Pro.

    Roli

    Thanks. Sounds really good. How's the noise level?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Soloway
    Thanks. Sounds really good. How's the noise level?
    It’s very quiet. The is a noise gate with adjustable Threshold and Decay as well. I don’t use a lot of effects or anything else in my signal chain to inject nose so I’m not using the gate.

    Optimizing Gain and USB output Im getting very clean signal into my iPad and computer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rolijen
    It’s very quiet. The is a noise gate with adjustable Threshold and Decay as well. I don’t use a lot of effects or anything else in my signal chain to inject nose so I’m not using the gate.

    Optimizing Gain and USB output Im getting very clean signal into my iPad and computer.
    Thanks. That would make it a really useful tool for recording solo guitar direct. I really miss my old Pod when I;m recording but this seems like an even better solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rolijen
    Thanks! I have an iPad Pro 11”. I use a usb-b to usb-c cable to connect the THR10II direct to the iPad. In GarageBand, I select the stereo input and it works seamlessly with the Yamaha amp.

    I assume that it would also work with iPads with lightning port using the Apple Camera kit (or Lightning to USB adapter. Then using a standard usb-a to usb-b cable.

    One thing, when I first tried running the amp into the iPad, the signal level was pretty low. But, I found that the app (THR Remote) allows you to set the usb output level. The default was 50 and I have found that 95 to 97 gives fat rich results. When I recorded this clip, the output was at 80 or 90 (I hadn’t found the sweet spot yet). I’ve subsequently settled on 95.

    Roli
    Great info. Thank you.

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    I guess there is no way to hook up an extension cab to these amps?

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    I've been gassing for one of these for a while now, but I don't really "need" it. Sorta the same thing on steroids.

    THR Head - Overview - Amps & Accessories - Guitars, Basses & Amps - Musical Instruments - Products - Yamaha - United States

    New practice amp - Yamaha THR 10ii-yamaha-jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mecena
    Am I the only one who is sorry for 10C not being introduced in 2nd generation?
    I was always drown to 10C idea. Shame there is not one in 2nd gen.
    The new ones have all 3 sets of models (so the cream, green, and black original thr models), but you have to use the phone app to access them.

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    I'm going to try and post a few more recordings...with humbuckers, there was a little "crackle" I didn't like when the amp was on a tabletop, but that dissapeared when I put the amp on the floor, and gave a nice bass boost.

    Re: speaker out, no, but the thr30 does have a 1/4" line out, so I guess you could go into a pa or powered speaker, but this thing is really made for practice.

    In really digging the full range stereo sound, it's a lot like some better bluetooth speakers out there. Really fills a room with sound, not loud (but can get too loud for my living room) but it's a "big" sound, not at all boxy.

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    I have a THR 100 single head and the original THR 10.

    Both are great tools with a few quirks to deal with (easily enough), but they are completely different beasts. Naming them in a similar way may inspire some to assume they are similar. They are very very different.





    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Sound
    I've been gassing for one of these for a while now, but I don't really "need" it. Sorta the same thing on steroids.

    THR Head - Overview - Amps & Accessories - Guitars, Basses & Amps - Musical Instruments - Products - Yamaha - United States

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bezoeker
    I have a THR 100 single head and the original THR 10.

    Both are great tools with a few quirks to deal with (easily enough), but they are completely different beasts. Naming them in a similar way may inspire some to assume they are similar. They are very very different.
    Ah, figured that since they are named similarly AND have much of the same cosmetic design features, that they are similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bezoeker
    I have a THR 100 single head and the original THR 10.

    Both are great tools with a few quirks to deal with (easily enough), but they are completely different beasts. Naming them in a similar way may inspire some to assume they are similar. They are very very different.
    Can you expand on this a bit? The head had piqued my interest as well.

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    Woody and Jehu,

    I suppose the THR 10 in all its variations are covered here some.

    So to describe the THR 100:

    It is a rather unusual modeling head. The general idea is to present the controls as very analog and traditional.

    There are no effects except reverb.

    There is a (foot and panel) switchable boost that is programmable to three different levels of cleanliness (or dirty-ness I suppose). This provides a remarkably useful tool for quick and easy comp vs. solo/lead. Set up with a modest boost and programmed to clean it is great.

    The front end has the same basic character selections as the THR 10 (or many Roland amps as well). So you get flat/clean (called “SOLID” like they said on the Mod Squad, but then mean a dry “solid state”), then “CLEAN” sort of between a JC and Fender, then CRUNCH - AC30-ish, then LEAD - the Marshall idea, then MODERN - the Mesa sound.

    You may disagree with their (and my) descriptions, but you get the idea.

    The 4 band (B,M,T, Presence) tone controls are VERY effective and range far wider than any tone stack.

    AND, on the back you can choose class A or A/B (I suppose AB1 really) power amp emulation, and power tube character from the following: 6V6, EL84, KT88, 6L6, and EL34.

    This all is modeling so happens before the final VOLUME control.

    This makes for some interesting combinations.

    You can select CRUNCH, Class A, and EL84 and damn it gets very AC30.

    Or other classic combinations for Fender (clean, A/B, 6L6), Marshall 50w (LEAD, A/B, EL34), MESA (MODERN, A/B, 6L6) etc. - and they work pretty well.

    The quirks come with odd combinations. For example SOLID or CLEAN, combined with class A , and EL84 yields a VERY VERY faint noise that sounds to me like quantization noise (but likely not an A/D conversion artifact).

    But this is easily fixed by not making such an odd choice of settings. You can make the amp misbehave, but you do not have to.

    Also note that there are three volume controls.

    So you have the modeling equivalent of GAIN, MASTER, and a post power amp “Power Soak”.

    This all sounds ridiculous in a pure jazz context. But there are plenty of pure jazz sounds in there that make the modeling quite useful. You just may be ignoring the bulk of the modeling work that Yamaha did.

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    I have left a lot out, but I hope this helps.

    I think that compared to a Henriksen or other jazz-o-centric amp, many players here will at first find the THR 100 a little sandpapery at first. Then after a rainy afternoon of fiddling with settings and programming will note what a remarkable (and mostly unknown) amp it is.

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    In that sense only the THR 100 is EXACTLY like the THR 10. Which I did not like at all at first. Then I stared playing with the knobs and programming presets to tame the absurd panel reverb. The I used the VERY fine programmable (and incredibly subtle) compressor on the THR 10 and ended up with an amazing amp, as already reported.

    EDIT: The programmable compressor on the THR 10 gives incredible (and I suppose, unintended) control over the attack character of the amp.

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    These are superb products that for whatever reason seem to not be presented well in the market.

    My understanding is that the look of the original THR 10 evokes an “old times” radio look in Japan that is lost on most of us, much like the movie “My Neighbor Totoro”

    The THR 100 styling may be a mess of mixed metaphors, but it works incredibly well.

    Anyway, there is my dump of irresponsible opinion.

    Zoeker, B.