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I also heard good things about d’aquisto flatwound, but they’re out of production.
Ghs Pat martino, mmm... I have to try again better before review them.
I found those strings not perfectly tuned.
other flats brands:
Sit, essex uk, galli, d’orazio, sadowsky, optima swing, dr legend, olympia, ghs stainless flats, curt manghan, foehn, aria proll, roberts flats, darco, puccini flats,melofonic, black diamond..
If anyone could review those please do it!
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11-28-2019 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by neatomic
Bensons are wrapped with red textile swing is blue. Yes I know, then one still say they are same except the textile wrapping and the packaging... but I feel difference in sound too, especially D, A, E spongy character what I like is stronger using the Bensons.
Regarding the OP,
I was there too a few years ago, asked in many forums, no workaround found. You must play them for 2 weeks to get what you want. Regarding Thomastik price: They can last practically forever.
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Originally Posted by oldane
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Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
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Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
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Originally Posted by buduranus2
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Originally Posted by Gabor
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Originally Posted by Gabor
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Originally Posted by omphalopsychos
, I risked it not to look in the guitar room. Anyway the point was they are not identical as stated.
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Originally Posted by Gabor
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These came in the case of the 62 year old Gibson I just acquired. I bet they sound pretty dead. You want em?
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Originally Posted by buduranus2
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Originally Posted by christianm77
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Originally Posted by omphalopsychos
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Just to be clear, I’m not insisting that the color red is thuddier than the color blue.
Anyway good luck and I hope the strings bring out the Tal Farlow in your playing.
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If you want a fairly dry clipped tone, try Pyramid Gold Medium Heavy (12-52). Nickel tape wound, they seem to emulate the early tape wound strings with a fairly high internal damping so they don't have the initial zing.
Arthur
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Originally Posted by omphalopsychos
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Originally Posted by buduranus2
I asked about this on many forums, here is a reference of my original question and some useful answer from stackoverflow:
The conclusions are two fold: The OP can make conclusions how to fast age new strings, but in case anyone interesting in the reverse process (meaning: renew old srtings) here are my experiences. Disclamer: Please do not raise your expectations: the final conclusion neither is possible.
jazz - How to "age" guitar strings? - Music: Practice & Theory Stack Exchange
My original question what may related to the OP was the following
"...All the advertisements related to guitar strings talk about how to slow down guitar string aging and how to prevent the loss of brightness of the new strings. Coating is about to prevent aging (oxidation) and some manufacturers vacuum or oxigen free sealed packaging are all about this.
However here is the thing:
For me, the bright, and very "steely" sound of the new strings do not sound so good. Actually more than 1 year old Thomastik GB flatwound now sounds awesome. In the other hand on my other guitar I've just changed to a new string set (to the very same Thomastik) , and its bright new, and steel like sounds are very disturbing for me.
Is there any way not to wait months to get the sound I like?"
Here are some quotes of my conclusions written also there, you may read other comments and answer, to fully understand the context
Deep clean was: soaking in naphtha then clean with wipe.)
"After spending ten days to prove or confute theories I have only partial results, so here are my conclusions:
Theory #1: Oxidation
Confuted (imho). These confuting experiences was included in my original question but for have it in an organized answer I list here:
I had a one and half year old, accidentally opened (originally vacuum packed) D'Addario Chromes (flatwound), and I stringed my guitar with them ten days ago. The strings sounded the most typical new string like. (still no significant changes after ten days). So its not the oxidation, because the opened and same age strings were oxidated almost identically, but sounded way different.
Theory #2: Visco elastic dirt
Confuted in two ways.
a) Reverse confuting: I've tried to clean (I mean deep cleeaan) my old strings. (See details of the process in my comment on user2790167's answer.). No hearable changes at all. Maybe the clean was not "deep" enough, as user2790167 answered: we did not reach the core... Still I would expect some sound changes, but there was not any.
b) I've tried to artificially speed up aging the new strings by dirting them with a chapstick. It is kinda gluey fat so it's a candidate replacing nose grease with the benefit it is available in limitless amount... (nose grease credits goes to user2790167)
I even extra strengthen the strings during the process to dilate the ways to the "core". No changes. I thought it takes some time while the dirty travels to the core so waited five days before concluding the result in this answer: Still no changes.
Theory #3: My own
Note: This is not proven at all. This is only a theory what based on that neither Theory #1 and Theory #2 seems to be not provable. (although both sound reasonable). So... That's a fact, that new strings sound are well noticable changing in the first 1-3 month after applying them. If it is not the oxidation and not the dirt, then what else? The only thing what comes in my mind is the "usage". The steel's attribute must change somehow, my bet is its flexibility. This could be because of the micro dilatation, or some microscopic changes in the matter itself. The steel gets tired and tired."
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You can try boiling old strings in water to "renew" them. Seems I may have done this a long time ago on some bass strings to good effect.
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Originally Posted by archtopdream63
as i writ ^ , i knew the usa distributors decades ago
they cost more because benson gets a cut..and they are a specialty type string...which thomastik usually doesn't do!!!
cheers
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Originally Posted by omphalopsychos
sure those strings (flats) are just vanity branding..most likely made by labella...
cheers
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Originally Posted by neatomic
The Chromes are quite a bit louder, but colder. The Bensons are much less loud, but warmer, more nuanced and "jazzier." The Chromes were very high tension by comparison. Other forum members have said that Chromes play like TIs one gauge up. I installed a .012 set of Bensons, and they're much lower tension. I can even kind of bend the G string, which I like to have available here and there. That said, the Benson low E is much clearer, focused and detailed than the Chromes E, which sounded like mud by comparison. I have to say, though, that the Chromes are much smoother to the touch than the Bensons, which surprised me. The Bensons don't squeak, but are far from silky smooth as I had hoped. At this moment, I almost have a preference for the Chromes unwound B and E. The Bensons have a coating on them that imparts a little darker sound than I'm used to. I think I can dial some of that out with pickup, amp and guitar controls. Or maybe the coating will wear off over time. Right now the Bensons are a little bright, but not in a bad way. More like what we'd expect from new strings. I'm intrigued to hear them a month from now. The bottom line is that the Bensons are warmer, clearer, more focused, more detailed and more comfortable. Definitely worth the money as far as I'm concerned. Thanks to each and every forum member who contributed to this thread!
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thoms js & b flats offer 2 different choices of hi b & e strings...brass coated or tin coated...
if you dont like the ones you got, next time try the other
otherwise basically all unwound strings are the same...solid steel...with a thin outer coating...usually tin
plain strings are virtually interchangeable between all quality brands...so don't be afraid to replace
you can also adjust pickup height for any perceived differences in tone and volume...caused by the change from chromes (stainless steel) to thoms pure nickel double wrapped
cheers
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Originally Posted by neatomic
"Excessive knowledge of the product is an obtacle to sales"
I mean I would not have so high expectation regarding what a sales person said. Secondly I also would not expect so much from a person who does not respect the manufacturer he distributes. Not a good sign of personality.
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????^ sorry, but... ok the .53 pure nickel on round core flatwound string in the jazz swing package is completely different from the .53 pure nickel on round core flatwound string in the george benson package!
believe what you want...hah...
cheers
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