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I have a Loar LH-700 on the way, and if it looks/sounds good then I will be wanting to add a pickguard
is the Allparts one decent?
is it the longer variant or the shorter size (20’s era, mounted near the 16th fret)?
is the Fox-Guitars one head and shoulders better?
also looking for opinions on tortoise vs black
- which looks more “period correct” - trying to give the Loar that classy old time look
any photos would be greatly appreciated
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11-17-2019 04:57 PM
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I have installed the Allparts Tortoise guards on a few L5’s. I like them a lot. The size, shape, color and binding looks correct for an L5. I also like the way the binding is slightly yellowed/aged looking. I attached a couple pictures of ones that I have installed.
Keith
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Those do look good!
thanks for the quick response
does the Allparts guard come with the mounting hardware?
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Hey Keith,
What is the length and maximum width of the Allparts L5 guard? I’m wondering whether it would be a good fit for my16” noncut L7.
Paul
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But you can order the mounting hardware when you order the pickguard. They have it in stock.
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A little background on my comment:
If we are talking about the vintage-style brackets with a threaded rod and nuts, most aftermarket brackets have “acorn” nuts. Gibson uses a flat nut. The thread size is also different. It’s not easy to find an original Gibson bracket though and aftermarket ones will look ok.
Gibson used a simple bent bracket in the seventies. That one would probably be easier to replicate.
Keith
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@pcjazz. Allparts L5 guard I mounted on my '48 L7N.
Just about 10" long by 3 15/16" at its widest.
Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk1948 Gibson L-7N
1981 Epi Emperor T (MIJ Matsumoku)
1998 Epi Zephyr Regent (Peerless)
1992 Gibson Les Paul Studio
2004 Gibson SG Special Faded
2006 Epi G-1275 (MIK, Unsung)
2013 Squier Affinity Telecaster, BSB
(among others)
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I came across a vendor that sells brackets with a flat not acorn nut. Can't recall at the moment, and I ordered it online on my work PC. I can track it down tomorrow. IIRC it was Pickguardian, but not positive.
If you zoom in on my pics above you can see it. I did use the "shoe" from the original 1948 guard (the rod and nuts had been replaced) with the new bracket rod I bought. The hole on the shoe on the replacement bracket didn't line up with the hole on the rim of the '48, and I wasn't keen on drilling a new hole.
Edit; if you want a better pic of the bracket/rod/nut, I can take one. I also ordered a spare rod/nut set (they had them available seperately) and can pull that out for a pic as well...
Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk1948 Gibson L-7N
1981 Epi Emperor T (MIJ Matsumoku)
1998 Epi Zephyr Regent (Peerless)
1992 Gibson Les Paul Studio
2004 Gibson SG Special Faded
2006 Epi G-1275 (MIK, Unsung)
2013 Squier Affinity Telecaster, BSB
(among others)
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Brian:
I also found a vendor who had brackets with flat nuts a few years ago. I ordered one for a guitar that I was working on. I recall that, although it looked authentic, it had a different thread size than my original Gibson ones. Fortunately, it came with the little threaded plastic piece that attaches to the underside of the pickguard. If you are using a brand new Allparts pickguard, you can glue the new plastic piece on the bottom and everything will work out fine. As you said, you can even use a Gibson “shoe” with it, because it isn’t threaded. You can’t mix old and new threaded parts though.
Keith
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1948 Gibson L-7N
1981 Epi Emperor T (MIJ Matsumoku)
1998 Epi Zephyr Regent (Peerless)
1992 Gibson Les Paul Studio
2004 Gibson SG Special Faded
2006 Epi G-1275 (MIK, Unsung)
2013 Squier Affinity Telecaster, BSB
(among others)
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.......And just for a heads-up, these furniture pads w/ adhesive backing work well for adding support / shimming from underneath the pg...Once you've fitted the pg, these can be attached to the underside of it, and the felt protects the top.....
https://www.amazon.com/Scotch-Round-...F6KERBHMYVGJSP
..and easy to cut and trim and really can't be seen once fitted...........
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Sometimes I should trust my instincts....lol
Brackets | Pickguardian1948 Gibson L-7N
1981 Epi Emperor T (MIJ Matsumoku)
1998 Epi Zephyr Regent (Peerless)
1992 Gibson Les Paul Studio
2004 Gibson SG Special Faded
2006 Epi G-1275 (MIK, Unsung)
2013 Squier Affinity Telecaster, BSB
(among others)
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Just curious - how is the front of this pickguard supported/held down ?
all of the archtops I have had before have had a screw that went through the top of the guitar to anchor the front of the guard (which I am not a huge fan of drilling into the top)
am i I missing something about the installation of this?
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You can add a block in that area and screw it into the side of the fingerboard extension.
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Here's the original block on my '48. Originally glued, it came loose prior to me getting it and was secured using double sided tape. Here you can see how much my original guard was cupping/warped.
Which is why I got the Allparts guard.
Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk1948 Gibson L-7N
1981 Epi Emperor T (MIJ Matsumoku)
1998 Epi Zephyr Regent (Peerless)
1992 Gibson Les Paul Studio
2004 Gibson SG Special Faded
2006 Epi G-1275 (MIK, Unsung)
2013 Squier Affinity Telecaster, BSB
(among others)
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1948 Gibson L-7N
1981 Epi Emperor T (MIJ Matsumoku)
1998 Epi Zephyr Regent (Peerless)
1992 Gibson Les Paul Studio
2004 Gibson SG Special Faded
2006 Epi G-1275 (MIK, Unsung)
2013 Squier Affinity Telecaster, BSB
(among others)
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Yes
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1948 Gibson L-7N
1981 Epi Emperor T (MIJ Matsumoku)
1998 Epi Zephyr Regent (Peerless)
1992 Gibson Les Paul Studio
2004 Gibson SG Special Faded
2006 Epi G-1275 (MIK, Unsung)
2013 Squier Affinity Telecaster, BSB
(among others)
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Black guards w the beveled edge came on ES175s and others.
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1948 Gibson L-7N
1981 Epi Emperor T (MIJ Matsumoku)
1998 Epi Zephyr Regent (Peerless)
1992 Gibson Les Paul Studio
2004 Gibson SG Special Faded
2006 Epi G-1275 (MIK, Unsung)
2013 Squier Affinity Telecaster, BSB
(among others)
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Looks nice on your guitar, I had a nice blonde '48 as well, the guard was just starting to go when I sold it. One of the better L7's I've heard, but then early post war acoustic Gibsons are generally punchy and full sounding for some reason.
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Last edited by JazzNote; 11-19-2019 at 06:06 PM.
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JazzNote
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JazzNote, that is a REALLY beautiful guitar.
You keep your stuff nice. I love it.
Joe D
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Just wanted to point out that the binding on the AllParts pg isn’t quite right. On most Gibson L5 pick guards, the first layer of black (from the outside going in) is thicker than the rest of the black layers. On the AllParts version, all the black layers are the same. They’re great guards, and I have one on my 55 L5CESN, but thought it might matter to some.
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The price of these has got to point I cannot make them and earn a profit. I see some with 5 layers of binding for less than $60 and whatever they are doing is sure efficient because it still takes time and material. I have to get $80 or it is not worth the effort. The good thing is that some pickguards have to be fashioned indvidually for the guitar. The stuff I have been using is also twice a thick and works fine most of the time. In the end though just running a price check on ebay for L5 pickguards there are lots of good options that are not expensive. The price has definitely come down on them. It does not have be be exact just pretty close.
specializing in repair and setup, does your guitar play like it should?
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Another vote for the Allparts guard. I’ve used 3 of them with great results each time.
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My 1947 L7 had the original guard on it when I got it. It was tortoise with a single ply of binding. Unfortunately, it was beginning to deteriorate, so I had a perfect replica built for it by Leroy Aiello (I didn’t want to use an Allparts guard because they don’t make one like this). I attached a picture of the replica, which looks identical to the original.
Keith
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