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    Just got one of these, Blows away any modeler I owned. Makes any SS amp sound like a tube amp.

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    Which model Maiden do you have... blackface or Dumble inspired? That Pedal Show has some great videos showing the Maiden. Too bad the wait list is so long and those few that are selling used are typically asking almost twice the new price.Pretty interesting internals with the 12ax7. Internals look like a small hand built amp Source of image (an old Reverb post): Kingsley Maiden Dumble pre amp 2017 | Reverb
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    Steve

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    Dig the construction choices. I imagine it sounds great.

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    mine is the dumble. The dumble is not that far off from the blackface. It's a little more midrangey and less twangy than the BF and less overwhelming bottom end. Running it through a Raezer's Edge Luna or Quilter blows away running a modeling preamp (axefx/kemper) through the same amps. Instead of sounding similar to the real amp tube amp, it *IS* a real tube amp.

    I really wish I hadn't delved back into tube amps now because this is literally all I need.

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    Were you on a waiting list for very long? I've heard that some of the Kingsley products have more than a year wait.


    Doug

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    waited a year. Frankly, if I had known how good it sounds, it would have been worth the $150 to get a used one sooner...

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    I waited two years for a Maiden D and Page DS. Loved the Maiden and did not care for the Page. The Maiden into a Torpedo CAB is my go to gigging setup (not jazz though). At home I also play it into a Fryette powerstation and a cab with lovely results. Fantastic pedal!.

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    Kingsley users - could you tell me if the preamps offer the feel of playing through a tube amp as well?

    I am seriously considering building up a leightweight setup consisting of a juggler and a class d power amp like the power station and a nice but leightweight cab...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_lu View Post
    Kingsley users - could you tell me if the preamps offer the feel of playing through a tube amp as well?

    I am seriously considering building up a leightweight setup consisting of a juggler and a class d power amp like the power station and a nice but leightweight cab...
    Yes, this will work nicely. One of my setups is Kingsley Maiden D into Fryette Power Station 2 (run as a power amp) into a 12'' cab (or a pair of those). It works very nicely and sounds great. It feels like an all tube amp, because it is an all tube amp - just "deconstructed".

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    Thanks for answering - the problem here is the following:

    I have no doubt that the Fryette performs like tube amp ... since it is a tube based power amp. In Simon's videos you can already tell that it sounds better, bolder more 3d than the solid state class D equivalent (Seymour Duncan Power Stage 700). But it is too heavy for me to lug to sessions / jams in the city.


    ThereforeI am mainly looking at Class D / Solid state power amps to use with the pedal. The question is: Can a tube based preamp in combination with a class D power amp (seymour Duncan PS 170, for example) a similar feel to a real tube amp or is the power amp responsible for the typical tube amp behaviour. I am talking that slight compression, saginess, sponginess when digging in, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_lu View Post
    Thanks for answering - the problem here is the following:

    I have no doubt that the Fryette performs like tube amp ... since it is a tube based power amp. In Simon's videos you can already tell that it sounds better, bolder more 3d than the solid state class D equivalent (Seymour Duncan Power Stage 700). But it is too heavy for me to lug to sessions / jams in the city.


    ThereforeI am mainly looking at Class D / Solid state power amps to use with the pedal. The question is: Can a tube based preamp in combination with a class D power amp (seymour Duncan PS 170, for example) a similar feel to a real tube amp or is the power amp responsible for the typical tube amp behaviour. I am talking that slight compression, saginess, sponginess when digging in, etc.
    I see. Yes, the Fryette ist not the smallest and lightest (and also not the most quiet because of the fan). I also thought that in Simon's demos, the Fryette sounded a fair bitt better than the SD. I am not sure how to answer your question to be honest. But I can say that Tube Preamp into a cabsim (Like Torpedo C.A.B.) into the PA does sound good and authentic and also feels good too play. Here there is no power amp involved, just digital emulations. If you give me the choice, I'd always power up my tube amps, but there are many situations where that is not practical of course.

    Have you considered a Strymon Iridium into a powered FRFR speaker? That should be about as light as it gets and it looks to me that this thing sounds really good. Yes, all digital etc., but no menus or option paralysis of any kind, just straightforward, amp like controls.

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    If I may, since we are talking about pleasing tube colorations of the Fryette PS, if you choose to use a more neutral-sounding Class D like a Seymour Duncan Power Station, insert a tube buffer in between the Kingsley Maiden and the Class D amplifier. Further, I don't know if Simon Jarrett could tweak his Maiden pedal for more coloration to be used with a Class D amp.

    If you ask me, it is only in a side by side comparison that you hear the more pleasing coloration of the Fryette. Heard on its own, the Kingsley Maiden into the SD Power Station would be swell.

    The Raezer's Edge Luna amp sounds promising. Worth checking out.

    I like the Vox MV50 Clean Nutube. It is 50W into 4ohms. The Milkman The Amp is another interesting option for the Kingsley Maiden. 100W into 4ohms, this one has a real 12AX7 input stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_lu View Post
    Thanks for answering - the problem here is the following:

    I have no doubt that the Fryette performs like tube amp ... since it is a tube based power amp. In Simon's videos you can already tell that it sounds better, bolder more 3d than the solid state class D equivalent (Seymour Duncan Power Stage 700). But it is too heavy for me to lug to sessions / jams in the city.


    ThereforeI am mainly looking at Class D / Solid state power amps to use with the pedal. The question is: Can a tube based preamp in combination with a class D power amp (seymour Duncan PS 170, for example) a similar feel to a real tube amp or is the power amp responsible for the typical tube amp behaviour. I am talking that slight compression, saginess, sponginess when digging in, etc.
    No, it won't feel identical to a tube amp. It helps if you have a power amp that has a reactive output section like the quilter. I use my maiden into a quilter 202 and it sounds great but when i plug into my vintage sound (vibrolux reverb) there's no comparison.

    in terms of what I've tried, this is my preference.


    • Great fender amp
    • maiden going into quilter (reactive output)
    • modeler going into class D and into guitar speakers
    • maiden going into typical class D
    • class D or traditional analog

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    Thanks everybody. Hopefully my order with Simon came through. The waiting game beginns...