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    What is an inexpensive way to buy a Fender Jazzmaster with a real vibe of the originals?



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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanSeb View Post
    What is an inexpensive way to buy a Fender Jazzmaster with a real vibe of the originals?



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    One of the two Squires probably. There is a ‘60s Vibe and a J Mascis model. People tend to like the latter for some reason or another.

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    the Squire goes for 200 bucks, it's not bad but it's not the real deal.
    I find the JM more comfortable than the Tele's I've been shopping, and I just tried the Original 60's model. It's a nice guitar, and for $2k it should be. Clean sounding pickups, bound neck like an archtop, quality hardware. The $1k MIM model is good, too, but the neck isn't as nice.
    When I was a teenager in the 70's one of my guitar buddies had an original one. The re-issue is probably as close as you'll get, but it's not inexpensive.

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    Thank you very much for the replies.
    I am interested in an
    Inexpensive Jazzmaster with a classic feel (e.g. 1962 models)
    as I wrote before.
    Mainly because after many years of entertaining the thought that a great archtop is the answer to everything, I now realise that my instincts are really for solid bodies. I was entirely brought up on, in the '60s and '70s, Strat copies, early Japanese Fenders, Gibson SGs, various Italian - some very good quality, like Eko Kadett, guitars based on American solids, and some other European guitars like Framus and Hofner.

    Now I have a range of 175s (Gibson 1985, and various Epiphones) and L5-style Korean guitars. But recently, as I say, I have found that none of them feel as good in my hands as the Strats, Telecasters, SGs, Les Pauls, etc. [Although I am entirely into the tone-quality of more classical jazz players (from Johnny Smith to Pat Martino, Jim Hall, Mark Whitfield, Ed Bickert, Raineys, et al. ... ...)]

    The Jazzmaster, when I was 16 in 1969 was not considered cool in my circles for some childish, fashion-based, non-musical reasons. But I do remember some very good musicians (older generation) playing them in function bands beautifully. And I do remember how versatile they were: I heard them used by anything from muzak bands to psychedelic groups.
    I would now like to get hold of one of those; put some flats,12s (or Thomastik 13s) on them and see if I can get some Ventures --- as well as Jazz tones from it (I know, the famous few videos of Joe Pass with a Fender solid are not the Jazzmaster, but Jaguar, I am sure he could have got the same sound from the Jazzmaster too - short scale or not!)

    Anyway, I am not sure if I want to go up to £900 / $1000 range (as this is an experimental phase with the Jazzmaster notion! Maybe I should, but maybe the Squire classic Vibe will satisfy my curiosity (unfortunately the tremolo doesn't lock on those I understand - which is important for me).

    With very best wishes, and thank you again for your replies,
    s.

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    Yeah, it looks like neither one of those Squires has the button to lock the tremolo. You can probably screw down the tension enough so it wouldn't be necessary though. At least for playing. I think that the locking button is mostly meant to make changing single broken strings easier.

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    Looking at current jazzmaster specs , most of them
    are long scale , what's up with that ?

    i thought Jaguars were long scale
    jazzmasters were short scale

    or have I got that wrong ?
    Last edited by pingu; 09-15-2019 at 08:12 PM.

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    best choice is the squier vintage modified jazzmaster..close to the real fender...yes, doesn't have the trem lock..which is not a real deal breaker...its only there to lock it in place if you break a string..but if you break a string, you'll be far out of tune before you even think of using it anyway!! hah...the vm has all the beloved idiosyncrasies of the originals..and the duncan designed pickups (asian made) are not bad at all...( & you could always get some fender 65 pickups as replacements)

    the squier mascis jm is nice too...but modernizes out some of the jms best features...(for the real jm purist)..the mascis uses p90 style (under the covers) pickups as opposed to classic fender type jm pups...it also uses a tuneamatic bridge and moves the trem closer to the bridge for more tuning stability...but it changes the tone!!!..so its all a compromise..the fit and finish on them is wonderful tho...cool looking (white and gold) and with great comfy necks

    jazzmasters are where it's at!!!..leo was seriously trying to make a solid jazz guitar!!...the separate neck pup circuit gives you two completely distinct/great neck pup tones in the flick of a switch...perfect for jazz!!!

    vm it

    cheers
    Last edited by neatomic; 09-16-2019 at 01:26 AM. Reason: sp-

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    Quote Originally Posted by pingu View Post
    Looking at current jazzmaster specs , most of them
    are long scale , what's up with that ?

    i thought Jaguars were long scale
    jazzmasters were short scale

    or have I got that wrong ?
    p- jazzmasters always have been long scale..fenders 25.5

    its the jaguar that has the 24" shorter scale..ala gibbys byrdland territory!!!..

    jaguars are cool too..but have a brighter more tele edged tone..can cut thru a mix nicely...but jazzmaster has nice warm jazz neck tone perfect for jazz


    cheers

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    Many thanks for the replies.
    ... but what about other options, such as the Japanese
    Jazzmaster 1966 Re-issues?

    Is there something special / different about them?


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    I have played the J model a bunch of times. It will be mine!

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    I have played the J model a bunch of times. It will be mine!
    Many thanks.
    Yes, in many ways the Japanese version feels very similar to the originals. Even the Mustang bridge is the same.
    I’ve just tried a Mexican newest model (about £800), I can’t remember the new model names they have started to use on these. They are very good too, but they have tunomatic bridges, which I don’t like in Fenders, but the sound is very similar to the old ones.
    best wishes,
    s