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    Les Paul? L5? 175? Tele?

    I have never had my hands on a Strat. Or any Martin. I have no idea what one feels like.
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    I played my first Les Paul at a store recently. That I can no longer brag about never having played one was one of the regrets I experienced. The pickups were hot, horrid, muddy. Great for metal, I hear.

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    Don't think I've ever played an L5, but I have played a Super 400 and a Johnny Smith.
    Never played a Rickenbacker. (I think of a Ric 12-string as iconic if not ubiquitous.)
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    L-5. Probably never will...we'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Sound View Post
    Les Paul? L5? 175? Tele?

    I have never had my hands on a Strat. Or any Martin. I have no idea what one feels like.
    It's incredible that someone with your experience has never handled a Strat or a Martin. If you're ever interested in doing so, just stop in at any Guitar Center.

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    I can say that I've played most of the iconic guitars in jazz because I've had the good fortune of visiting Jay Wolfe's shop in Jupiter, Fl. The times I've been there, he's had an impressive inventory featuring vintage L5s and DeAngelicos along with a large selection of Heritage guitars.

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    I'm very lucky to live in Chicago, so with CME being here, I've gotten to play a bunch of guitars I'd never be able to find anywhere else...but there's LOTS of guitars I can think of I've never had a hand on.

    For example--they're certainly nothing rare, but I've never played a Martin D-28. Plenty of 18's, but never tried out a 28. Or the big Gibson flattop with the moustache bridge, what's that one--the J-something?

    I've also never played a Super 400 with set pickups, but I have played a vintage Super 400 with a Floating DeArmond (belongs to a local country artist) and it was heavenly...

    I've also never played a metal bodied resonator. I'd like to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Karol View Post
    Don't think I've ever played an L5, but I have played a Super 400 and a Johnny Smith.
    Never played a Rickenbacker. (I think of a Ric 12-string as iconic if not ubiquitous.)
    I had a Ric for a while, cool guitar, but I couldn't deal with the 1-5/8" fingerboard.
    -- Isn't it crazy that "archtop" and "luthier" are spelling errors on this forum?

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    I've heard there's one that stays in tune.

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    Never played a super 400. Also never played any archtop that was designed to be fully acoustic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klatu View Post
    It's incredible that someone with your experience has never handled a Strat or a Martin. If you're ever interested in doing so, just stop in at any Guitar Center.
    Yeah, plenty of opportunities, it just never happened. Fate, I guess.
    -- Isn't it crazy that "archtop" and "luthier" are spelling errors on this forum?

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    L5

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    I have held and played a scale or two on a friend's Strat, but I have never plugged one in and wailed on it. It's just as well. I need another guitar obsession like I need a hole in the head.
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    Apologies In Advance:
    I am real beginner, but I've played just about everything. Working 10 minutes from Lark Street Music and 25 minutes from GuitarsNJazz makes it easy. I have no business handling 90% of the instruments I've put on my knee at those 2 places. It's like being invited to your first hockey game and it's 1994 Game 7 at Madison Square Garden. Meanwhile diehard fans who don't have the opportunity are across the street watching it at The Blarney Stone. I'm undeservedly lucky for the opportunity and through reading so much on the site I appreciate it more and more each time I visit.
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    Better ask me which iconic guitars I have played - looks like that list will be shorter, especially in the light of jazz boxes.
    So: I have never played a Gibson full hollowbody - you name it, I haven't played it.
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    Modern L5. I only played prewar vintage models which aren't really L5's as we know it.
    I did try a super 400. For some reason I was sure I wasn't gonna like it. Boy was I wrong. I loved everything about it. Those guitars deserve all the praise they get. Also because I thought I wasn't gonna like it, I can assure you that my liking it wasn't confirmation bias

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    I have never played a genuine D'Aquisto, a Monteleone, a Borys or a Trenier. I have pretty much played all the rest from a Loar signed L-5 to a 1960 Blonde D'Angelico New Yorker.
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    I don't think I've ever played a L5. Or a Jaguar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMgolf66 View Post
    Apologies In Advance:
    I am real beginner, but I've played just about everything. Working 10 minutes from Lark Street Music and 25 minutes from GuitarsNJazz makes it easy. I have no business handling 90% of the instruments I've put on my knee at those 2 places. It's like being invited to your first hockey game and it's 1994 Game 7 at Madison Square Garden. Meanwhile diehard fans who don't have the opportunity are across the street watching it at The Blarney Stone. I'm undeservedly lucky for the opportunity and through reading so much on the site I appreciate it more and more each time I visit.
    We in Vancouver remember that game well...

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    I can't think of a single one that I've not owned or at least played over the past 59 years of doing this and I still think Teles are the best.

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    Damn Bro, I was gonna say the same exact thing!
    I want to take a Monteleone home with me, put TI12's on it and play it for a month.
    I'd have to get comfortable with it on my own. If I played it in front of John M, I'd probably faint or even have a stroke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stringswinger View Post
    I have never played a genuine D'Aquisto, a Monteleone, a Borys or a Trenier. I have pretty much played all the rest from a Loar signed L-5 to a 1960 Blonde D'Angelico New Yorker.

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    I've never played any of the "levels" of guitar above the Gibson Super 400. No Benedetto, no DA/DA, no Stromberg, not even an antique Epiphone. I have never played a 12-string Ric like Roger McGuinn played in the Byrds but I want to. I also never played a Mosrite like the Ventures played, but yeah, I wanted to. I haven't played anything with a "real" or exact copy of a CC pickup. I haven't played a vintage P90 either. I have played a Tele and Strat, but not for very long.

    IN the realm of iconic, I love this one:

    What ubiquitous iconic guitar have you NEVER played?-hagstrom-red-jpg
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    I have never played a Les Paul.
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    I've never even touched an L5, same goes for D'Aquisto, D'Angelico (originals) or any of the current uber-luthier archtops-Monteleone, Trenier, Slaman etc.

    I have played a Manzer flattop, but it was before she was famous.

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    No s400, and the only L5 I ever tried was a CT with a single neck floater. Also the only 175 I ever tried was a january 1960 model and I hated it..!

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    This
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    Iconic? Hmm? As I think back over the last 55 years of playing guitar, I realize that I have probably played nearly every guitar that could be described as iconic...even the Hagstrom I that Lawson pictures--I've owned one for 50 years.

    Seriously, I've played all of the Fenders except the LTD...that's iconic, and one I haven't played. I've played all of the Gibsons that I can think of. I've played all of the Martins I can think of. Guilds, check. Gretsches, check.

    Well, I've only played one D'Angelico--my first teacher's guitar. It was an old one, probably an A or Excel...don't recall, for sure, only that it sounded great. So, there are several D'Angelico's that I would like to try.

    I have never played a D'Aquisto instrument. That's on my bucket list.

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    Never played a Trenier but otherwise probably have all the archtops covered having been able to go the the Chinery Blue celebration with Bill HOllenbeck. Played all of the Blues and many others at Chinery's place. I have not been to Gruhn's in a long time I may need to plan a visit when weather breaks and take my bike do a ride-and-guitar overnite.

    I guess like Lawson I have never played a 12 string Ric.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stringswinger View Post
    I have never played a genuine D'Aquisto, a Monteleone, a Borys or a Trenier. I have pretty much played all the rest from a Loar signed L-5 to a 1960 Blonde D'Angelico New Yorker.
    Well I hardly think of those as ubiquitous, not many people get the opportunity to play them. I was thinking more of the guitars that we ASSUME we have played at least once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Sound View Post
    Well I hardly think of those as ubiquitous, not many people get the opportunity to play them. I was thinking more of the guitars that we ASSUME we have played at least once.
    Indeed. But threads about those makers guitars are ubiquitous, so I included them in my comment. I have played all of the truly ubiquitous guitars made and then some.

    If I never get to play a Borys, Trenier or Monteleone, that is OK (I am curious about them, but none were played by my heroes). But I would like to play a genuine D'Aquisto before checking out. Joe Pass and Jim Hall (two of my guitar heroes) played these, so my curiosity level is very high. At their current prices, I can say with certainty that I will never own one.
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    Mainly the fancy small luthier stuff like Monteleone, D'Angelico, Buscarino, etc.

    I have played a Triggs and a Benedetto or two ... and own a Campellone

    Same with solid bodies ... I think I've handle all of the iconic models at one time or another ... except maybe a Fender Jaguar

    But very few of the high end small luthier solid bodies that the folks at TGP go bonkers over

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont View Post
    Or the big Gibson flattop with the moustache bridge, what's that one--the J-something?
    Most likely, J-200. There are also some variants (Everly Bros, J 150, J 185). I took some lessons in high school from Danny Kalb (NY blues legend) who had one. Between that and Gary Davis, in my head it's THE sound of acoustic blues.

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    I’ve never played a Gibson L5, Super 400, or any other really fine vintage archtop. Nor have I ever played a Collings acoustic. I’ve played about every kind of electric guitar you can think of, vintage and modern, except the Parker Fly.
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    I have not played more of the iconic jazz guitars than the ones I have. The opportunities for these things just don't come up very often here in flyover land. For example, I've never even seen an L-5 in person. The guitars that I really want to try are an early to mid 50s ES-175 with a P90, and an early 60s one with a PAF.

    And Ed Bickert's Tele.
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    Off the top of my head, I don't think I've ever played: any Rickenbacker, an Ibanez AS200 (several other Ibanez semis, though), Flying Vee, Explorer.

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    If it's ubiquitous and iconic I've played it. I worked in a music store with lots of great guitars of every variety and brand in college, have been to a number of big guitar shows, and oh yeah, have been to Guitar Center many times.

    The big guitar shows enable you to play some that are iconic - and not so ubiquitous. Like 1959 Les Pauls and ES-335s with PAF pickups, Bob made Benedetto Manhattans, fancy PRS private stock, and of course all the Gibsons, Fenders, and Martin's a person could ever dream of having. Going to one of the big shows can relieve some GAS pressure, while also building it up.

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    I have never played an L5. In fact I'm not sure I have ever seen one in person. Not many live music venues around here, certainly none that offer Jazz. I can't say I have ever seen an L5 at the local Guitar Center.

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    In terms of the big company names, a Strat. Never interested me right from the start and I fell in love with the Tele early on so just didn’t bother. A couple of the ones I would love to get my hands on are an es-300, es-125 or 120, es-330 - basically a nice p90 Gibson. I love the sound but for some reason just never found a P90 archtop for me.

    If we are getting down to the individual makers,D’Angelico, D’Aquisto and the Luke I’ve never tried any of those either.


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    the D’As
    Monteleones, Treniers, Slaman I want to try.

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    I've never played a Flying V, nor an L5 CES. The former because they're just ridiculous looking, the latter because they're not very common in Florida.
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    I have a vintage Super 300/Dearmond FHC would love to try a vintage Super 400 to hear the difference.

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    I have never played a Super 400, but I do own a Super Eagle, which is close enough for me. The only guitar left on my bucket list is a “real” D’Angelico. I doubt that I’ll ever own one, but I’d love to try one.

    I’ve never played a Radio Flyer but I saw Anthony Wilson’s from the front row. That was close enough. Made my upper lip sweat just to be that close to $75k guitar.

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    I'm not sure if this fits the criteria but I've never played (or seen) a early 1930's 13 frets clear of the body Gibson Nick Lucas guitar. Preferably in Argentine Gray...
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    Never played a Les Paul. Used to have an SG. Wasn’t sad to let it go. For dual humbuckers on a slab I play my PRS Artist II. Not a favorite guitar, should let it go.

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    I don't do any nylon string, banjo, mandolin or ukelele.

    or anything over $4K That stuff is just outta my ball park.

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    Anybody ever played one of these? My first electric, back in the 1960's, lost in the shuffle of college years and my dad moving, but I found this one recently and have loved it. Amazing, seriously, amazing neck, good pickups somewhere between a Strat and a P90. Quirky controls, but a fun whammy bar and totally cool color--front is acrylic, the back is red vinyl over plywood!

    Feel like I should be playing "Dancing Queen" or something. The opening riff of the James Gang's "Walk Away" through the Monoprice 15 Watt tube amp really kills...

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    I listed above L5 as one of the iconic guitars I've never played. That was yesterday. Today, that has changed. I joined the L5 club. Not the L5 owners club. "I have played an L5" club. Two pickup model. Surprised how none-acoustic the guitar is despite being fully hand carved. Electric sound though is just heavenly. So smooth and engaging. It really is the king of jazz guitars.

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    A friend had a 53 Tele, I only played it for a few minutes, same w a Les Paul. I got a Strat in a trade once but sold it right away.
    Never had a desire to own a solidbody.

    As for rare mid to high end vintage archtop guitars, I'm fortunate to have owned most except Gretches, but never a Stromberg or cutaway D'Angelico, and probably never will, though I've played those before.

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    I have played an Argentine Grey Nick Lucas. It's an excellent flat top guitar for blues.

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    I always wanted to try the Benedetto blue guitar and compare it to my Mortoro, a great acoustic archtop, the build mentored by Bob. They should be very similar.

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    Edit: I guess I didn't read the title of the OP's post. Neither of these are ubiquitous! So I am going to admit to being Tele illiterate.
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