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Just checked JazzAmp Ten is 23lb's with 10inch speaker and similar cabinet size, so I guess 28 lbs for Forte is pretty good.
But for those who don't need to get louder than Deluxe Reverb levels for gigs and rehearsals I'm not sure weight difference is enough to justify paying more for an imitation amp 28 lbs is already cart territory for anything more than a couple of blocks or even less.
I totally see the appeal for those who really need the twin levels power though. It'll fit in the trunk of a small car at least.Last edited by Tal_175; 05-28-2019 at 02:20 PM.
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05-28-2019 11:00 AM
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It sounds good to my ear!
Curious to see a schematic of the circuit to see how the preamp was designed. Is it a SS-preamp with a tube somewhere in the signal path or is it really a tube-preamp that delivers a signal to the class D poweramp? I am pretty sure the EQ-section is solid state driven. Mind you, I have nothing against a good designed SS-amp, but I really hope the tube has a real function (preferably the signal goes from the input directly into the first half of the 12ax7 (driver), then come the tone controls, and then the 2nd half of the tube as recovery) and is not just a gimmick to lure poor guitar players into a SS/class D amp - that can be produced very cheapily - and ask a premium price for it.....
The amp is very pricey, so I am afraid they use a $6 tube to give it a tube/boutique flavor to ask premium dough.
Sorry for being so skeptical, but if you see the low prices for comparable Quilter or DV Mark amps (that go for 1/4 - 1/2 the price), it has to be really really good...... and the clips sound good, but I am not sure if they sound $1400 better than a DV Mark Jazz.
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it's 4x louder than a mark jazz. The mark jazz didn't have enough headroom for a loud gig or rehearsal for me.
Originally Posted by Little Jay
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Originally Posted by jzucker
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Originally Posted by Little Jay
I had one briefly but didn't feel it was implemented properly for an archtop. Even with the bass all the way off, the milkman had a very heavy bottom end.
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200w is not four times louder than 50w.
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Originally Posted by jorgemg1984
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Originally Posted by jzucker
I do find the Forte very interesting though, it does sound good in the clips. I hope the price will go down.
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Originally Posted by Tal_175
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Originally Posted by Little Jay
it's all different now, which makes amps lighter. Not saying this is what the Forte uses, but it might well do. Evans amps ( and probably many others, Jazzcat might have had one) pioneered high voltage tube pre-amps over 10 years ago, but they didn't sell enough. Maybe the market is more receptive now.
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Originally Posted by jzucker
The combo: The Amp 12" Combo: Lightweight 50W Guitar Amplifier by Milkman Sound
The pedal: The Amp: 50W Guitar Amplifier pedal by Milkman SoundLast edited by David B; 05-29-2019 at 06:11 AM.
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the thing that makes forte unique is that it does *NOT* use class D. The class D amps impart their own sonic characteristics. Henriksen initially tried a class D power amp (cheaper, lighter, etc) but wasn't satisfied with the results with the HV fender style tube preamp he uses so he eventually used a more conventional, analog SS power amp design.
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Has there been any explanation why the cab is bigger than their other 1x12" combos?
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I am going to conjecture that an open-back 12" architecture works best with the volume of a cabinet the size of a Deluxe or even an old tweed Tremolux Fender amp.
Those amps really sound fine.
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
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You can handle airflow needed for a single 12ax7 tube in a pedal. Box size isn't too critical, there. In fact, the Forte has an open top for the tube on the control panel. It's good to have an open back for airflow, which the amp has.
I think that the amp design uses other cabinet considerations. An open-back, single-12 design has a rich history of great sounds. It will sound wimpy, however, if the cabinet volume gets smaller than, say, a Fender Princeton Reverb. And, sound will improve as the cabinet gets to the volume of the old tweed Fender Tremolux amp. (That may be the best tone for a single-12, open-back amp.)
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Regarding the cabinet size, it's a bit shorter but wider than the Alfresco open-back Henriksen which was designed by Sound Island. I think it's 2" shorter but around 4" wider. I am also curious as to why they went that route; perhaps the tube pre-amp required some additional width or perhaps it was by design.
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The cabinet size is almost exactly the size of a Fender Tweed Deluxe. 20" x 16" x 10"
Fender is 20" x 16.5" x 9.5"
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Originally Posted by Greentone
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Great vid, Kawa!
Mike, like Tim (above) will always sound great regardless of the gear he's using.
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Thank you, marcwhy.
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Originally Posted by jzucker
Generally speaking speakers make a big impact on how an amp sounds and its easy to go down a rabbit hole so i try to stick with one of a few that i have found work for me.
all the best
Tim
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