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    • I copied the posts below (without permission...Thanks to rdwhitti & sgosnell) from another thread and am hoping
      to see this topic discussed in more detail.

      I currently have my DV Mark Little Jazz combo
      elevated (about 18 inches from the floor),
      tipped (about 1 inch lift under the front edge)
      and about 3 feet from a wall.

      I also read somewhere else in this forum that some reasonable EQ settings to consider/try with this amp are as follows (apologies for not referencing the original poster by name):

      Bass: 2
      Mids: 7-8
      Treble: 5
      Reverb to personal 'taste'.

      This is my first specifically "jazz voiced" amp and I am very much a beginner with regards to jazz guitar.
      For clarity, I am VERY pleased with the amp and am not struggling to get a decent tone (IMO) for jazz.
      However, I would like to see the topic discussed in more depth.

      Thanks

      Dave

      04-20-2018,
      09:36 AM


    • rdwhitti


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      Originally Posted by rdwhitti
      Mine finally shipped, I should have it tomorrow.



      My Little Jazz arrived last night but I only got to play on it for a very short time. My initial impression was quite good. I put it on my desk at ear level and it sounded clear and articulate with the tone controls all at 12 o'clock (neutral). Tweaking just the bass did not seem to have much response, but I only had a few minutes to test. The small speaker is not a problem for me at home. More later when I post a NAD.

      -Danny





    • 04-20-2018, 10:13 AM
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      The Little Jazz is somewhat sensitive to both elevation and distance from a wall or other obstruction in the rear. The rear ports cause it to need a little distance from a wall, a foot or so, to sound best. Flat on the floor it has a lot of bass, but that decreases as it's elevated or tilted. When I first got mine I thought it needed to be elevated, but as time goes by I'm liking it better just flat on the floor. The tone controls are not as quickly effective as on some amps, so you may need to make larger adjustments than you're used to on some other makes. But I mostly just run it flat, with maybe a little treble rolled off, depending on the room and the guitar.




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    How does its tone compare to the Fender Super Champ X2 FSR Wine Red with Greenback G10? (22 lbs) ?
    Studied privately with Mark Levine from 1986-1989 and with Barry Harris 1990-1992.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rintincop View Post
    How does its tone compare to the Fender Super Champ X2 FSR Wine Red with Greenback G10? (22 lbs) ?
    Sorry...I can't help you.

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    I have one of the early Little Jazz amps with the loud fan problems and I installed a kill switch for the fan.

    Elevated (as in sitting on a chair) is a great way to go. I also like to do the tilt-back and made myself a little metal brace to tilt the amp back with a piece of sheet metal and some foam tape -- works great, probably tilts around 30 degree angle up. Disperses the sound very nicely.

    Regarding EQ, I have 2 favorite settings. Everything straight up noon (or close) is a good setting. Clean & clear.
    But I also discovered a setting with Bass 5ish, Mids pushed up toward 9, treble rolled way off (maybe 3?) that I like equally well.
    I discovered this setting trying to dial in a good tone with my ES-135 that I subsequently sold. It provides more grit thanks to the boosted mids, and even though I don't have the 135 anymore, I still like this EQ setting on the amp with my other guitars a lot. I also tend to set the amp a little louder than needed and keep the volume control on the guitar down.

    I find the Little Jazz to be a very functional and easy to get along with piece of gear. Good sounds, light and small enough, cheap enough, loud enough for a lot of what I do.

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    Thank you very much. This is exactly the type of information I was hoping for.

    Elevated (as in sitting on a chair) is a great way to go. I also like to do the tilt-back and made myself a little metal brace to tilt the amp back with a piece of sheet metal and some foam tape -- works great, probably tilts around 30 degree angle up. Disperses the sound very nicely.
    Regarding EQ, I have 2 favorite settings. Everything straight up noon (or close) is a good setting. Clean & clear.
    But I also discovered a setting with Bass 5ish, Mids pushed up toward 9, treble rolled way off (maybe 3?) that I like equally well.
    I'm looking forward to trying these settings. Are you adjusting the tone control(s) on you guitar at all when using the above?


    I also tend to set the amp a little louder than needed and keep the volume control on the guitar down.
    This is something I have also been doing and forgot to mention. Thanks for including it.

    I find the Little Jazz to be a very functional and easy to get along with piece of gear. Good sounds, light and small enough, cheap enough, loud enough for a lot of what I do.
    A lot of great tone packed into a ~10" cube!

    Thanks again for your detailed response.

    Cheers

    Dave

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    My preference is on the floor, about 12-18 inches from an obstruction, and tilted. The tilt angle changes depending on what I have at hand to use, but the exact angle doesn't seem to be critical. It's fine further away from walls if that is possible, but often it's not. If you have to be close to a wall, sometimes moving it just a couple of inches changes the sound a lot. It's because of the rear ports. I'm not in love with elevating it, because it seems to thin the tone, and brighten it. Mostly I just put it somewhere with something under the front, and adjust until I get what I want. I keep the controls flat most of the time, but sometimes I may turn the treble down just a little, depending on the sound where I am. I tend to run my guitar volume at ~50%, give or take, and the amp volume at whatever it takes to get the level I want, seldom above 50% unless it's really, really loud from others. I usually have the guitar tone control full open, but sometimes I will back it off just a little if necessary, because that's easier than changing the amp tone controls. But flat on the amp and full open on the guitar is my usual tone setting.

    All this is just my preference, and may not be yours. Experiment and find what sounds best to you, and I expect you'll find that you prefer slightly different settings in different locations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgosnell View Post

    All this is just my preference, and may not be yours. Experiment and find what sounds best to you, and I expect you'll find that you prefer slightly different settings in different locations.
    Firstly, thank you for your post that I quoted in the original post of this thread and for this added information.
    All of this is very interesting and helpful.

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    I have no experience of this amp but I am confused about the ’no lifting’ thing. This is a small amp. How do You hear Your playing if the amp is on the floor and You stand beside it? Some frequencies of course but how about the attack of the notes straight from the speaker?

    Some use to tilt it but what about those who do not?

    Some (many!) gigs are on a stages that boom. That’s why I have learned to have an amp stand with me nowadays. If I only tilt the amp, the boomy stages just... keeps on booming!

    Sharing the eq adjustments puzzle me too. For me the eq knobs are a way to adjust a) the guitar to the b) room where I play. Same eq positions sound different in different rooms. And with different guitars.

    I am waiting for a DV Micro 50 head. Not Micro Jazz, I thought that the basic model has a better resale value. I am interested to hear will it beat my Polytone and/or my Tweed combo. Or even the Quilter 101Reverb. We’ll see!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbie View Post
    I have no experience of this amp but I am confused about the ’no lifting’ thing. This is a small amp. How do You hear Your playing if the amp is on the floor and You stand beside it? Some frequencies of course but how about the attack of the notes straight from the speaker?

    Some use to tilt it but what about those who do not?

    Some (many!) gigs are on a stages that boom. That’s why I have learned to have an amp stand with me nowadays. If I only tilt the amp, the boomy stages just... keeps on booming!

    Sharing the eq adjustments puzzle me too. For me the eq knobs are a way to adjust a) the guitar to the b) room where I play. Same eq positions sound different in different rooms. And with different guitars.

    I am waiting for a DV Micro 50 head. Not Micro Jazz, I thought that the basic model has a better resale value. I am interested to hear will it beat my Polytone and/or my Tweed combo. Or even the Quilter 101Reverb. We’ll see!
    The purpose of the thread is for discussion and comparison. I am new to this amp and to playing jazz guitar in general. As a hobby player, I am typically in the same room and not concerned about other factors like stages, multiple guitars, etc.

    I grasp what you are saying and appreciate your comments. "Paljon kiitoksia" (copied from the internet)
    However, any information is interesting and helpful even if it is not totally relevant due to the number/nature of additional influencing factors.

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    You can use almost anything to tilt the amp. I often use the G10 receiver, but I also have a small camera tripod that works. With the amp tilted, I can hear it fine, not an issue. Even flat, it's loud enough to be heard, but the tone is bassier, which can be an asset in some situations. I marginally prefer the amp on the floor, tilted, but that's a personal preference, and not everyone will agree. It's small and light enough to put on almost anything if you want it elevated.

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    I usually have my DV Little Jazz elevated as it's a bit boomy on the floor.

    My EQ settings at a gig are generally volume on 5-6, bass 3-5, mids 8, treble 3-5 ... I use my Boss Fender '63 Reverb pedal for reverb.
    This gives a very nice "Johnny Smith'' kind of sound to my ears.

    Great little amp - - only criticism of it is that I wish the mid control didn't affect the overall volume so drastically.

    I've recently ordered a Nocturne Jr. Barnyard Preamp, waiting for it to arrive. It will be interesting to hear how that sounds with the DV Mark.

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    I think I mentioned in another LJ thread that I use a couple yoga blocks to raise amp off the ground. They are made of bamboo and raise the amp 6”. Great for coffee shop playing.
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    The mid control affects the perceived volume because that's the range we hear best. If you reduce the mids, you will hear lower volume, there is no way around it other than to increase the volume as the mids are decreased. I doubt many manufacturers are willing to add that feature.

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    I like to put mine on a chair or something of similar height. I haven't thought much about the angle.

    I prefer to use a multi band EQ in front of mine to reduce the low mids and some other minor tweeks while keeping the amp eq mostly flat.
    Since I have a the multi band EQ in a multi effect unit (zoom g3n) I also that for reverb rather than the built in.

    If I could change anything about this amp, I would like more eq knobs.

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    I also find that positioning really matters with this amp. At home I can get a satisfying tone, but on small gigs, where often the placement is dictated by available space it's a crapshoot, and more often than not I'm not satisfied with the tone.
    Plus the reverb is bad. It's a cool thing for the price, but I'm considering various upgrade paths, or maybe just changing to a pre amp pedal that lets me go direct.

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    If the amp has to be right up against a wall, I turn it at an angle. Because of the rear ports, it needs some space for reflection. The reverb is okay, no worse than on any other amp, and if I use it I set it so that it's barely discernable. I don't like heavy reverb from anything. If I decide to go direct, I can do that from my Line 6 G10 receiver. It has both 1/4 and XLR outputs, and I do this regularly. I don't use pedals often, but sometimes I use a reverb pedal between the G10 and the PA, but that means the XLR isn't usable. I have an overdrive pedal, but that was wasted money, because I don't use it. YMMV.

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    Which reverb pedal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by R Neil View Post
    Which reverb pedal?
    This is going to be a rabbit hole. However, viewed with a positive perspective... an informative and helpful rabbit hole.
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    I use a TC Electronics Hall of Fame mini. I like it because it's very small, thus fits in any bag, and it uses the Toneprint feature. I can change reverb settings from my smartphone in seconds, and almost any reverb you can imagine is available. I generally stick to the TC preset, or the preset room prints, turned down to the point where you have to really listen closely to tell there is any reverb at all. But I'm not everyone.

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    That sounds ideal to me ...

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    I have a Boss RV6 reverb pedal in a box of music junk and have thought about getting it out and giving it a try. I actually have no idea when I bought it, it's practically brand new.

    Does anyone here know if this is a well-regarded reverb pedal? It has lots of options, and I'm accustomed to a single Reverb Knob, you know, "none, some, more, lots."
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    That's one of the appeals of the HOF Mini for me. It has one knob, one stomp switch. Others may prefer more adjustments, but I'm a simple kind of guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone View Post
    I have a Boss RV6 reverb pedal in a box of music junk and have thought about getting it out and giving it a try.
    I certainly think it is worth a try. All that will be lost if you are not impressed by it is a bit of time.

    There are certainly a lot of Boss RV6 pedals in use...so it isn't a completely useless product.

    Please let us know your findings/thoughts

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    Why is reverb quality important? It is such a subtle effect that any old reverb will really do. I myself would never carry a reverb pedal for an amp that already has reverb. I have been playing Fender reverbs since 1969 and when used it is set so low and becomes so subtle that the quality is not noticeable. I guess it might be if one is all alone at home obsessing over it in a quiet room. Or you are going to record and promote a solo jazz guitar album to the jazz reviewers and stations internationally, then you could need a better reverb. .
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    Reverb quality is more important in a quiet setting or when recording than in a noisy situation, no doubt. Reverb, though, can go from full-on surfer twang to barely noticeable, or lower. I prefer the latter, but lots of people like more. I have a pedal because most of my amps have no reverb built in, and the pedal was cheap. Since I have it, and it's very small and versatile, I often use it, even with the amps that have it built in.

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    Updating this aging thread...

    I am now finding that I prefer the amp on the floor but tilted with the front of the amp about 2-3 inches (~5 - 7.5 cm) off of the floor.

    I am not a skilled guitar player, however, I think I have developed a reasonable "ear" for tone.

    Cheers

    Dave

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    I've just bought the amp and am playing it with a D'Angelico NYL-2. Personally, I find raising the front about 2-3 inches with the amp about 2 feet from the wall, the controls almost at 12 (bass at 11, mids at 1 and treble at 12) and the reverb at about 10 works very nicely. I'll see how it goes, as I'll probably gig with it a bit next year.

    I'm really loving the sound. This is the second version (the one with the fan noise problem fixed) and it's just amazing. Then again, it's my first ever pure jazz amp, so maybe I'd be more jaded if I had a pile of Quilters, Polytones and Hendriksens to compare it to.

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    I've used it in two different rooms so far. Both times flat on the floor.

    In one case I had the amp off to the side (my 2 o'clock). In the other case, I had it about 10 feet away, facing right at me.

    I got my sound both times and was able to forget about the amp and just play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnaby View Post
    I've just bought the amp and am playing it with a D'Angelico NYL-2. Personally, I find raising the front about 2-3 inches with the amp about 2 feet from the wall, the controls almost at 12 (bass at 11, mids at 1 and treble at 12) and the reverb at about 10 works very nicely. I'll see how it goes, as I'll probably gig with it a bit next year.

    I'm really loving the sound. This is the second version (the one with the fan noise problem fixed) and it's just amazing. Then again, it's my first ever pure jazz amp, so maybe I'd be more jaded if I had a pile of Quilters, Polytones and Hendriksens to compare it to.

    Maybe not. I've had a massive pile of multiples of all of the above plus a bunch more and I still consider the Little Jazz a pretty special little amp.
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    Ditto here. I've had a blast over the holiday comparing everything I can get out of my Fender Super Champ X2 head+12" cab, several Polytones of various breeds, the DVMark Micro50 head, and the Little Jazz. My total favorite remains the Micro50 head with a 4 Ohm 10" speaker, but the Little Jazz is right up there as a very, very close second, and maybe in some rooms it would be the better.
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