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    Hi guys, someone has ever tried the model LS-15 Sadowsky, it is a new model (?) but it does not appear on the official site, similar to a ss-15 has two pickups and 16 keys on the body, I noticed that you only see in Japanese stores thanks to those who can tell me something about it.
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    Sandro

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    Never heard of it before, but it is very cool. Smaller thinner body, but full 25.5 scale (hence "LS"), 2 pickups.

    Sadowsky Guitars Archtops Series LS-15 ”Long Scale” Violin Burst【SN.A1625】(新品/送料無料)【楽器検索デジマート】

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Sound
    Never heard of it before, but it is very cool. Smaller thinner body, but full 25.5 scale (hence "LS"), 2 pickups.

    Sadowsky Guitars Archtops Series LS-15 ”Long Scale” Violin Burst?SN.A1625????/????????????????
    Tanks Woody exactly this is the model, is beautiful but what differences can be made in the use of the long 16-key scale

    (sorry i use a traslator)

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    I was convinced that Sadowsky would have more success in the discussions, maybe it's gone out of fashion ...

    I'm considering a purchase between the Sadowsky LS-15 and a Benedetto Bambino Deluxe someone tried the SS-15 or the Bruno against the Bambino? opinions?

    Ciao

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    I have never seen an LS-15, but have played the SS-15 and Bambino.

    Both the SS-15 and Bambino are superbly made. I definitely prefer the extra room on the SS-15 via the 1 3/4” nut width.

    The Bambino has a remarkably full and complex sound amplified, but there I also liked the SS-15 better. No objective measurement, just sounds more responsive to my attempts at “technique”.

    Both are great.

    I tried a Bruno back when it was still for sale. Beautifully made, but the SS-15 has the very thin body and great sound, combined with the 1 3/4” nut which makes a huge difference to me.

    I am sure you will be happy with any of these great small-body guitars.
    Last edited by ptchristopher3; 01-05-2018 at 11:37 AM. Reason: Wanted to

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptchristopher3
    I tried a Bruno back when it was still for sale. Beautifully made, but the SS-15 has the very thin body and great sound, combined with the 1 3/4” nut which makes a huge difference to me.
    I was interested in a Bruno or SS-15. I really wanted the SS-15 for the reasons you mention - wider nut, and thinner body. But I got a great deal on a beautiful mint 2005 Bruno, nitro, with stunning flame that I just could not turn down. Turns out the 1-11/16 nut actually feels wider and spacier than my other gits with the same measurement. Can't explain why that is, but I'm very happy with it. And the extra 15th fret over the SS-15's 14 is an added bonus. It DOES come in handy.

    Just an aside: I posted a while back about this: My ES-275 has the same scale, pretty much same body size and tailpiece length. Both with Thomastik GB 12s. The strings on the Sadowsky feel MUCH softer, on the ES-275 much tighter/stiffer. I know we've been through this before, but the only real difference I can see is that the 275 has a steeper neck angle, and thus a steeper break over the bridge. I definitely prefer the feel of the Sadowsky. So much so that I dropped to 11s on the 275, and now they feel more similar.
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    Hi Woody,

    Yes indeed 11/16 is not always 11/16 in my opinion as well.

    I have a Gretsch guitar with beautifully finished fret ends that allows me to have a full 37,5 mm center-to-center between the E strings with no fall-off problems at all.

    Compare that to the more typical 36 mm on a 1 11/16th nut.

    Or more like 35 mm on many a rounded off, nib infested, Gibson.

    The Sadowsky guitars are built as well as any factory guitar ever made. Great to hear you love the Bruno.

    If you actually will use them, I have one left over set of the erstwhile 12 to 50 Sadowsky Bruno strings. Sort of a smooth roundwound with “correct” T-I style tension balance. Happy to send them if you want to ever go “full Bruno” for a while.

    PM your address if you will use them.
    Last edited by ptchristopher3; 01-05-2018 at 12:57 PM. Reason: spelling

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    For laughs, can you check the center-to-center spacing of the E strings at the nut of the Bruno and 275?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Sound
    Just an aside: I posted a while back about this: My ES-275 has the same scale, pretty much same body size and tailpiece length. Both with Thomastik GB 12s. The strings on the Sadowsky feel MUCH softer, on the ES-275 much tighter/stiffer. I know we've been through this before, but the only real difference I can see is that the 275 has a steeper neck angle, and thus a steeper break over the bridge. I definitely prefer the feel of the Sadowsky. So much so that I dropped to 11s on the 275, and now they feel more similar.
    ps - Here is the original pic I posted back when. I tried to support the bodies as evenly and level on the table as possible. The 275 is in front, Sadowsky in back. Notice the difference in neck angle.

    Sadowsky LS-15-necks-jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptchristopher3
    For laughs, can you check the center-to-center spacing of the E strings at the nut of the Bruno and 275?
    Will do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptchristopher3
    Hi Woody

    If you actually will use them, I have one left over set of the erstwhile 12 to 50 Sadowsky Bruno strings. Sort of a smooth roundwound with “correct” T-I style tension balance. Happy to send them if you want to ever go “full Bruno” for a while.

    PM your address if you will use them.
    Thanks, would definietly like to try them, but I can't seem to pm you(?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Sound
    Thanks, would definietly like to try them, but I can't seem to pm you(?)

    Ah, I just sent a pm with email.

    Chris

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    Oh wait, indeed PM does not work for some reason.

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    Well that is stupid. OK I just made an email account for a one-shot use.

    send me a postal address at ptcjazzguitarbemail@gmail.com

    I’ll mail out the strings.

    Chris

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    Oh, man! Everytime I think about those precious few times I've played Sadowskys, I start to drool like an idiot.

    I don't think I've ever played guitars with such good factory setups. And the overall quality didn't detract from the playing experience either. And that's quite the understatement!

    Let's say that they're worth every single penny they ask for them, and then some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LtKojak
    Oh, man! Everytime I think about those precious few times I've played Sadowskys, I start to drool like an idiot.

    I don't think I've ever played guitars with such good factory setups. And the overall quality didn't detract from the playing experience either. And that's quite the understatement!

    Let's say that they're worth every single penny they ask for them, and then some.
    The neck profile and fingerboard are to die for.

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    Got the email Woody. Wires on the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Sound
    The neck profile and fingerboard are to die for.
    You're preaching to the choir, reverend!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptchristopher3
    For laughs, can you check the center-to-center spacing of the E strings at the nut of the Bruno and 275?
    The Gibson is exactly 1-3/8". The Sadowsky is just 1/32 wider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Sound
    The Gibson is exactly 1-3/8". The Sadowsky is just 1/32 wider.
    Many thanks.

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    I decided to buy this Sadowsky LS-15 I'm very intrigued by the 16 free keys ...

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    Same body size as ss15 just a longer scale?

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    Quote Originally Posted by callouscallus
    Same body size as ss15 just a longer scale?
    Yes and two Pickup

    ?14 3/4" body width at the lower bout
    ?1 3/4" body Thickness
    ?5-Ply Premium Flame Maple Construction
    ?Extended treble cutaway for maximum upper-register access
    ?25 1/2" Scale. 22 Frets, 16 Frets to the Body, Dovetail Neck Joint
    ?Mahogany neck with Ebony fingerboard and Cat’s Eye Abalone Inlays
    ?Custom Designed Sadowsky Ebony Tailpiece with String Ground
    ?Premium Electronics, Including Custom-Wound Vintage PAF Style Pickup with Black Cover, Highest Quality Pots and Switchcraft Jack
    ?Black Hardware

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    Quote Originally Posted by valevitti
    I decided to buy this Sadowsky LS-15 I'm very intrigued by the 16 free keys ...
    I sent an email to Sadowsky on Fri asking about availability outside Japan.

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    Very interesting, never heard of the LS-15 either. Wonder if Sadowsky will have one at the Namm show. I guess ill find out. Does the LS have the 1 11/16 nut or 3/4?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzgtrl4
    Very interesting, never heard of the LS-15 either. Wonder if Sadowsky will have one at the Namm show. I guess ill find out. Does the LS have the 1 11/16 nut or 3/4?
    1-3/4"

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    How are you buying this guitar?

    Importing to Italia from Japan yourself?

    That should require the sale of your ‘villa toscana’ to finance it?

    I am sure you will love this guitar. Looking forward to hearing how you like it (and hearing some playing on it.)

    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptchristopher3
    How are you buying this guitar?

    Importing to Italia from Japan yourself?

    That should require the sale of your ‘villa toscana’ to finance it?

    I am sure you will love this guitar. Looking forward to hearing how you like it (and hearing some playing on it.)

    Chris
    Yes, I bought directly in Japan, I did not need to sell the villa in Tuscany, I was able to sell the one in Rome!

    I hope you'll arrive soon, let's see if I fall in love!

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    Quote Originally Posted by valevitti
    Yes, I bought directly in Japan, I did not need to sell the villa in Tuscany [...]
    Great, because my wife and I still plan to spend the summer at your place in Tuscany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valevitti
    I hope you'll arrive soon, let's see if I fall in love!
    I suspect: ...too easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptchristopher3
    Great, because my wife and I still plan to spend the summer at your place in Tuscany.
    I wait for you! especially if your wife is young and beautiful ...

    Joking aside, I put a search announcement for Sadowsky or Benedict but in the end I decided for the Sadowsky because compared to the Benedict Child seems more versatile then I saw on the net some Child and Benny with the paint of the whole top split .. the glossy part makes cracks both on the flat part and in the joints, I would not be a congenital defect of these models.

    Has it ever happened to you?
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    Wow, google translate does some funny things - Benedict Child somehow does not work as a guitar name.

    The Benedetto Bambino, has a lacquer finish that could indeed be more easily damaged than the decidedly robust (i wonder how google with translate that to Italian) Sadowsky guitars.

    But in my opinion, Benedetto guitars are not at all subject to unusual finish checking or damage.

    But I think the two pickup LS-15 will be an incredibly versatile and great sounding guitar.

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    Hahaha! you're right I forgot to replace the two words! I talk about this in photos and other similar but at the joints, I have seen on more instruments even quite recent and for me can not be caused bad care.

    Sadowsky LS-15-img_7612-jpg

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    In my opinion and experience, the joints are where the grain directions cross. This makes it exactly the place for a finish crack if the guitar is subject to unusual temperature and humidity changes.

    But getting what you want for the reasons you want is the ultimate luxury. I am sure you will love the LS-15.
    Last edited by ptchristopher3; 01-08-2018 at 08:14 PM. Reason: fixed confusing sentence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Sound
    I sent an email to Sadowsky on Fri asking about availability outside Japan.
    I heard back from Sadowsky. They will be begin offering them in the West some time in the next several months. They have one in the shop (NYC) if anyone wishes to try one out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Sound
    I heard back from Sadowsky. They will be begin offering them in the West some time in the next several months. They have one in the shop (NYC) if anyone wishes to try one out.
    Being all Sadowsky archtops made in Japan, it doesn't surprise me the Asian market being served first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LtKojak
    Being all Sadowsky archtops made in Japan, it doesn't surprise me the Asian market being served first.
    Yeah, there are a LOT of cool and unique Sadowskys available in Japan, including a blue Jim Hall(!)

    Sadowsky guitar | eBay

    Sadowsky LS-15-sadowsky-blue-jpg

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    Just arrived !!!

    simply fantastic ...

    Sadowsky LS-15-img_7873-jpgSadowsky LS-15-img_7872-jpgSadowsky LS-15-img_7871-jpg

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    Superb as expected. Congratulations.

    Is the sound as great as expected?

    And marble columns as well!

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    WOW!
    Once Sadowsky makes these (or the SS15/semihollow) in a plain-top version, I'll get into trouble...

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    valevitti - Congratulations! Sadowskys are terrifically made guitars - I'm sure you'll enjoy yours!

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    I played the LS-15 at the namm show, wow was really nice. i want one now. congrats

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    Quote Originally Posted by valevitti
    Just arrived !!!

    simply fantastic ...

    Sadowsky LS-15-img_7873-jpgSadowsky LS-15-img_7872-jpgSadowsky LS-15-img_7871-jpg
    That's quite the beautiful instrument. And I simply LOVE the contrast of the black hardware and binding with the light sunburst. If it plays just half as good as other Sadowskys I've played, you're in for a treat.

    May you enjoy it for many years to come in good health.

    Cumplimenti ancora!

    Pepe
    Milano, Italy

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    Looks a little like the Jimmy Bruno with a longer scale.

    Congrats! I am interested.

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    Please do share some sound clips of your beautiful Sadowsky, we want to be certain that it sounds as good as it looks!

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    Anybody pickup or played this guitar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildcat
    Anybody pickup or played this guitar?
    Not personally, but SoundPure has a brief demo up on the yoo.


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    I was surprised to see this guitar joins the body at the 16th fret. I thought most archtop guitars joined at the 14th fret. Is this unusual as I think it is? It does not take a lot for me to get confused. :-)