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    Hi Guys,
    Forget all this crap about Pinned Bridges and Baking Soda Nut Repairs.
    Here is a little something that shows the 175 doing what it made to do.
    The guitar responds to anything you throw at it.

    And I threw some stuff at it in this video.

    I love this guitar.

    Thanks Joe D


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    Awesome! Tone you could eat with a spoon and dizzyingly dazzling runs - mesmerizing. Thanks, Joe!

    ES-175s are something, eh?

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    wicked!!

    some very comfortable in the pocket playing...a tough tune, made lovely

    kudos Joe D

    cheers

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    Too cool.

    I have yet to climb the Giant Steps.

    Can I ask what strings your 175 is wearing?

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    Joe,
    Beautiful improvising !! I’ve never seen you so comfortable on a guitar. That body size and scale length is the perfect fit for you- no struggle at all. When your comfortable with a guitar - you can then let loose and play what’s in your head - and that’s exactly what I see in this video. I loved it bro .

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    Quote Originally Posted by citizenk74
    Awesome! Tone you could eat with a spoon and dizzyingly dazzling runs - mesmerizing. Thanks, Joe!
    ES-175s are something, eh?
    the tone is the champ. I can’t think of an electric jazz guitar that make the ears feel better. Thank you C74.

    Quote Originally Posted by neatomic
    wicked!!
    some very comfortable in the pocket playing...a tough tune, made lovely
    kudos Joe D
    cheers
    thank you Neatomic. You are right, it’s a tough tune. I think I’m gonna take a break for a while and play some Sleepy Johnny Smith stuff..

    Quote Originally Posted by Longways to Go
    Too cool.
    I have yet to climb the Giant Steps.
    Can I ask what strings your 175 is wearing?
    thanks LongWays. All my babies wear the same TI Jazz Swing 12’s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QAman
    Joe,
    Beautiful improvising !! I’ve never seen you so comfortable on a guitar. That body size and scale length is the perfect fit for you- no struggle at all. When your comfortable with a guitar - you can then let loose and play what’s in your head - and that’s exactly what I see in this video. I loved it bro .
    Thank you Stevie.
    I am comfortable with this guitar. Fits like a glove. A lot of the licks are Joe Pass.
    Ill be honest.. I can’t wait to play the HJS18 again. Variety is the spice of life.
    Thank you brother.
    JD

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    Hey that sounds terrific!

    Do you mind if I ask what your recording setup is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max405
    Neatomic. You are right, it’s a tough tune. I think I’m gonna take a break for a while and play some Sleepy Johnny Smith stuff..

    yeah..take the easy way out!! johnny smith!!...hahaha

    cheers

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    Sounds great! They're just so dang balanced! It seems like any amp I plug into sounds equally great. Standards just flow out of this thing.

    So, we're heading to Nashville for a couple of days this week. I heard that Gruhn's has a few really nice vintage 175s in stock right now. I'm thinking about taking the new one with me and doing some A-B comparisons.

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    Looked like you were enjoying yourself there, thats what its all about.
    Shut my eyes and i thought it was Joe Pass at the intro, those 75,s have their own sound. Well done.

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    Wow! Who could ask for more? A beautiful guitar with a classic jazz tone; a challenging tune expertly played, and, most of all; watching a master artist bring it all together.

    Thank you Joe. I'll come back to this video often.

    Tony D.

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    Excellent - great playing and great tone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max405
    Hi Guys,
    Forget all this crap about Pinned Bridges and Baking Soda Nut Repairs.
    Here is a little something that shows the 175 doing what it made to do.
    The guitar responds to anything you throw at it.

    And I threw some stuff at it in this video.

    I love this guitar.

    Thanks Joe D

    Joe, mon ami, breathtakingly cool , performed with aplomb
    and great confidence , you made Giant Steps look and sound
    easy , which it is certainly not. Great playing, you just
    keep improving each time we hear you.
    Best , SF

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    Quote Originally Posted by jobabrinks
    Hey that sounds terrific!
    Do you mind if I ask what your recording setup is?
    Thanks!
    The recording setup is very simple. Guitar into a Zoom G3. I setup a patch with an EQ, that I set in the middle across the board and I only use the level just to bump up the volume from the guitar. No amp simulation. I used Stereo Reverb. USB out into a USB in on a Windows Surface Pro 3. I set the record level to 73 in control panel. I use YouCam6 for image capture and click on the record with audio and set the Zoom as the source. Just click on record and go!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by neatomic
    yeah..take the easy way out!! johnny smith!!...hahaha
    cheers
    Johnny came to me in my sleep last night and said, "oh yeah you son of a bitch. Why don't you try playing something of mine that was difficult, like Wally's Waltz.. Instead of complaining about my scretch chords.." So I said, "you got it Johnny. Wally's Waltz, coming right up.."

    Quote Originally Posted by SkipBurz
    Sounds great! They're just so dang balanced! It seems like any amp I plug into sounds equally great. Standards just flow out of this thing.

    So, we're heading to Nashville for a couple of days this week. I heard that Gruhn's has a few really nice vintage 175s in stock right now. I'm thinking about taking the new one with me and doing some A-B comparisons.
    Thanks Skip.
    You can actually do that? I wouldn't even think of doing something like that. I'd fully expect to get chased out of the store after a stunt like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyjazz
    Looked like you were enjoying yourself there, thats what its all about.
    Shut my eyes and i thought it was Joe Pass at the intro, those 75,s have their own sound. Well done.
    Oh yeah, I love this stuff. Thank for the nice comment about sounding like Joe, but in reality, I couldn't carry his gymbag for him. He is a legend. Lets keep his music alive.

    Quote Originally Posted by TOMMO
    Excellent - great playing and great tone!
    Thank you TOMMO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pilotony
    Wow! Who could ask for more? A beautiful guitar with a classic jazz tone; a challenging tune expertly played, and, most of all; watching a master artist bring it all together.
    Thank you Joe. I'll come back to this video often.
    Tony D.
    Tony, Thank you buddy. I was worried about the tone because I recorded it on a surface pro and when I played it back, it sounded like a dobro. But when I put the headphones in, I realized.. You cant possibly screw up the recording of a 175.
    Thank you Tony. You are classy guy. A credit to the forum.

    Quote Originally Posted by silverfoxx
    Joe, mon ami, breathtakingly cool , performed with aplomb and great confidence , you made Giant Steps look and sound easy , which it is certainly not. Great playing, you just keep improving each time we hear you.
    Best , SF
    Foxman,
    Thank you so much. Although, Bricks WERE forming in my lower intestines. But the guitar gives me great confidence. I honestly feel like sometimes it plays itself. Its almost like you are cheating.. The 175 has more horsepower than the rest of the competitors.
    This one is an INCREDIBLE guitar.
    Thank you Alan. Another one of our classy members. And like Tony, a credit to the forum.

    Joe D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max405
    Hi Guys,
    Forget all this crap about Pinned Bridges and Baking Soda Nut Repairs.
    Here is a little something that shows the 175 doing what it made to do.
    The guitar responds to anything you throw at it.

    And I threw some stuff at it in this video.

    I love this guitar.

    Thanks Joe D
    Whoa! That's seriously wonderful. I know it's almost heresy, but I like your tone better than Joe Pass' from Virtuoso II. The sound on that album is so "dry" I find it a little hard to listen to, but your tone is warmer and yet still up to capture the precision of the lines.

    Well done. You threw a lot at the guitar, and it played a good game of catch with you! Loving mine too, which is the mate to yours. Mine asked me why I don't play like you do... didn't have much of an answer for it!

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    Joe, that was awful...as in full of awe Keep it up, friend!

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    Nice playing Joe. Once you take the tempo down a few notches from the original, Giant Steps becomes a very fertile tune.

    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    Whoa! That's seriously wonderful. I know it's almost heresy, but I like your tone better than Joe Pass' from Virtuoso II. The sound on that album is so "dry" I find it a little hard to listen to, but your tone is warmer and yet still up to capture the precision of the lines.

    Well done. You threw a lot at the guitar, and it played a good game of catch with you! Loving mine too, which is the mate to yours. Mine asked me why I don't play like you do... didn't have much of an answer for it!
    Lawson you are far too kind.
    I love playing for you guys. And on a guitar like this, its actually easy. Its important to have confidence in a Guitar. This one is up for everything. After I hung it back up after recording this, I thought I heard it ask me if Eddie Van Halen was around to give it a try..

    You play great Lawson. Do underestimate your talent.

    JD

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    Nice. thanks for sharing Joe. The guitar sounds great and so do you. I want to play but cant because my left shoulder went on holiday a couple days ago, so, its nice to see someone playing one of my favorite guitars. its about all i can do is look. nothing serious, unless you think not playing for a week when you really want to is a problem. So, i'll look and listen. a week, i think. keep it up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob MacKillop
    Joe, that was awful...as in full of awe Keep it up, friend!
    Hey Robster!
    Its funny I use that line all the time at the restaurants I go to frequently. The server will come over and ask, how was everything? I usually say, awful, just awful..

    Thanks buddy. Joe D

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    Joe! What the heck man, hiding this side of you?

    Never heard you cut loose like this...don't let it be the last time! Sounds great.

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    Very spunky playing but the deal was supposed to be “Little Girl Blue” drop D.

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    so much for not being a jazz player
    proud of ya big guy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skykomishone
    Nice. thanks for sharing Joe. The guitar sounds great and so do you. I want to play but cant because my left shoulder went on holiday a couple days ago, so, its nice to see someone playing one of my favorite guitars. its about all i can do is look. nothing serious, unless you think not playing for a week when you really want to is a problem. So, i'll look and listen. a week, i think. keep it up!
    Aw man, that sucks. Get well soon. You certainly have enough incentive that's for sure!
    Thanks, JD

    Quote Originally Posted by John A.
    Nice playing Joe. Once you take the tempo down a few notches from the original, Giant Steps becomes a very fertile tune.
    John
    I cant listen to the original Coltrane version for more than a minute.
    The original Sheets of Sound... My God.. Another enormous talent taken from us WAAAYYY too soon. John Coltrane was only 40 years old when he passed away.
    And "you know they got a hellava band" up there in heaven.

    Thanks, Joe D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    Joe! What the heck man, hiding this side of you?
    Never heard you cut loose like this...don't let it be the last time! Sounds great.
    Yes! the man has a pulse after all..
    Thank you Jeff. I appreciate it bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinnyv1k
    Very spunky playing but the deal was supposed to be “Little Girl Blue” drop D.
    Yeah, Yeah.. I know.
    You are funny bro.
    L,J

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    Quote Originally Posted by wintermoon
    so much for not being a jazz player
    proud of ya big guy!
    Thanks Wintermoon.
    I was taking it easy too much. After White Christmas I was playing the 3rd or 4th really nice arrangement I ever learned way back in the 70's which was Earl Klugh's Cry a Little White. Its a beautiful song but it made me stale.. I had to sharpen it up a little.
    Thanks buddy.

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    I hate you. I have one of your guitar’s blonde sisters and I can’t get her to sing like that. A man’s reach should exceed his grasp or what’s a heaven for. You’re my current guiding star.

    Straight on till morning in Neverland for me.

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    Nice Joe, very nice. Does the ES-175 feel faster to you or did the tune's character nudged you to play faster ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TedBPhx
    I hate you. I have one of your guitar’s blonde sisters and I can’t get her to sing like that. A man’s reach should exceed his grasp or what’s a heaven for. You’re my current guiding star.

    Straight on till morning in Neverland for me.
    Oh man... Don't feel bad, I hate me sometimes too..
    I really appreciate that Ted. Your blonde will get you there. A guitar that can do ANYTHING. And sound great doing it. Thanks buddy.
    JD

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    Quote Originally Posted by medblues
    Nice Joe, very nice. Does the ES-175 feel faster to you or did the tune's character nudged you to play faster ?
    My man..
    Thanks buddy. I think a little bit of both.
    I grew up on a 175. So to me there are few restrictions on it.
    I honestly believe that this batch of 175's suit my playing better than the older ones. I am big on sustain and getting the notes to blossom quickly. That's what this guitar does so well. My 165 is like that, but it doesn't have the same quick attack that this one has. Its also very clear, but not as clear as this 175.
    An easy way to notice it is to play other guitars and then come back to this one. I am fortunate to have some great guitars to compare it to. Maybe its the titanium TOM posts or the Spruce braces. I'll leave that to the experts.
    By the way, this guitar doesn't sound anywhere near as good as my 165 acoustically. Not close.

    JD

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    Joe, that’s a really great rendition. Man you really rule on this mythical tune. Thanks for sharing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max405
    My man..
    Thanks buddy. I think a little bit of both.
    I grew up on a 175. So to me there are few restrictions on it.
    I honestly believe that this batch of 175's suit my playing better than the older ones. I am big on sustain and getting the notes to blossom quickly. That's what this guitar does so well. My 165 is like that, but it doesn't have the same quick attack that this one has. Its also very clear, but not as clear as this 175.
    An easy way to notice it is to play other guitars and then come back to this one. I am fortunate to have some great guitars to compare it to. Maybe its the titanium TOM posts or the Spruce braces. I'll leave that to the experts.
    By the way, this guitar doesn't sound anywhere near as good as my 165 acoustically. Not close.

    JD
    Interesting, I also did not hear the proverbial ES-175 thunk maybe because you didn't record from a regular amp. Maybe if you record it with the Booboo it would be an informative comparison :-)

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    (Wow .... speechless ...)
    That, Sir, was a special kind of impressive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Archtop
    Joe, that’s a really great rendition. Man you really rule on this mythical tune. Thanks for sharing.
    Fred, Thanks buddy. Now I have to try and play it on a guitar that doesn't actually play itself..

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank67
    (Wow .... speechless ...)
    That, Sir, was a special kind of impressive!
    Frank,
    Thank you buddy.
    JD

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    My new ES175 came with this crank in the back... when I turn that crank, it sounds like Joe Pass is playing it. Does yours have one of those?

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    Nice guitar , and nice playing!


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    Joe, AWESOME playing and tone. I LOVE your treatment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toddep
    Nice guitar , and nice playing!
    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
    Thanks!
    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Sound
    Joe, AWESOME playing and tone. I LOVE your treatment.
    Thank you Woody!

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    Great playing as always, Joe! Gives us mere mortals an idea of what our 175s can do in the right hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zigracer
    Great playing as always, Joe! Gives us mere mortals an idea of what our 175s can do in the right hands.
    Aww thanks Zig.
    Last night was the 1st night I didn't play a guitar in a couple of days. I am going crazy trying to keep the room properly humidified. Its been extremely cold/dry here and my humidifier is struggling to maintain 42% Humidity in the room.
    My Strat is the backup gauge to the humidistats in the room. Its on a stand right next to the humidifier. Once I start to feel the Strats frets poke, its time for a wick change. And they are poking. I'll change the wick tonight.

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    Best I've ever heard you Joe. I loved everything about it: the tone, the attack, the creativity and the energy. Just great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Soloway
    Best I've ever heard you Joe. I loved everything about it: the tone, the attack, the creativity and the energy. Just great.
    Wow, Thanks Jim.
    I need to mention this.. (I was thinking about you..)
    I changed my recording workflow (a little bit).
    3 years ago, I bought my son a SurfacePro3 for Christmas. Turns out, he'd rather use his iPad. So my wife started using the SurfacePro for when she goes on Business trips (which is around 2 times a year). So I took over the SurfacePro.
    I've been using a Toshiba Qosmio Laptop for recording. Lately I've been crying about "noise". Mainly when I record my HJS18, because the Humbucker has a dead coil and I get static. "Crickets" I called it. It really sounds like crickets. And I was getting the faint sound of crickets in my other guitars too. So I was convinced that the noise was coming from some RFI/EMI originating from the Qosmio.
    So this was the 1st recording I did on the SurfacePro3. As you can hear, its Absolutely perfect, dead quiet. Studio Quality.

    The SurfacePro3 I have is not the best one. It has an i5 1.9ghz processor. Only 4 Gigs of RAM and a tiny 128 Gig hard drive. But its really small and lightweight. My recording software (YouCam6, which was a FREE DOWLOAD this time!!!!) loaded right up on it. When I plugged in the Zoom G3, the computer immediately recognized it and loaded the drivers. It behaves like a regular PC and gives off little to no noise whatsoever. So its a perfect recording platform for the adventurer like yourself. I use a Logitech C920 camera, but I honestly think the on board webcam is just as good.

    So Jim, if you are still on the hunt for good, mobile, simple video/audio recording solution - this might do it.
    I remember you like to record the audio separately. But my way is sooo much easier. And the quality is really good (I think).

    Sorry to ramble so much.

    Thanks again.
    Joe D
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    Very nice JD. You and a 175 are a well suited match (IMO, the 175 is the ultimate jazz guitar. Joe Pass, Herb Ellis Jim Hall and countless others have proven that). I am going to suggest that you keep this one. Sure, there are always going to be guitars that you will want to "test", but in the end, you will come home to the 175. And it might as well be this one, a gift from a special friend.

    I have noticed that this new (2016) model 175 does have some extra sustain. And it is the most "unacoustic" 175 that I have owned. It is very much an "electric" guitar. I changed the TOM to a rosewood saddle and like it way better. While I think the titanium saddles add sustain, I also think they add brightness (and I prefer warmth). The Grovers add sustain for sure (and a few ounces of weight!). I doubt that the red spruce braces or tubeless trussrod adds sustain, but both most certainly have an affect on tone. I like this new model for what she is, but I do prefer the older ones (I like a bit more "acoustic" tone in my electric archtops). I think these guitars were made to be played loud. The heavy construction probably aids in feedback control. No "Doug's plugs" will be needed for these. The woods are different as well. The maple is more lightly figured than the curly maple used in the past and the fingerboard does not look like Indian Rosewood. Perhaps an African rosewood? The rolled binding does feel good and the fretwork is first rate.

    Keep the videos coming!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stringswinger
    Very nice JD. You and a 175 are a well suited match (IMO, the 175 is the ultimate jazz guitar. Joe Pass, Herb Ellis Jim Hall and countless others have proven that). I am going to suggest that you keep this one. Sure, there are always going to be guitars that you will want to "test", but in the end, you will come home to the 175. And it might as well be this one, a gift from a special friend.

    I have noticed that this new (2016) model 175 does have some extra sustain. And it is the most "unacoustic" 175 that I have owned. It is very much an "electric" guitar. I changed the TOM to a rosewood saddle and like it way better. While I think the titanium saddles add sustain, I also think they add brightness (and I prefer warmth). The Grovers add sustain for sure (and a few ounces of weight!). I doubt that the red spruce braces or tubeless trussrod adds sustain, but both most certainly have an affect on tone. I like this new model for what she is, but I do prefer the older ones (I like a bit more "acoustic" tone in my electric archtops). I think these guitars were made to be played loud. The heavy construction probably aids in feedback control. No "Doug's plugs" will be needed for these. The woods are different as well. The maple is more lightly figured than the curly maple used in the past and the fingerboard does not look like Indian Rosewood. Perhaps an African rosewood? The rolled binding does feel good and the fretwork is first rate.

    Keep the videos coming!
    These very interesting remarks took me to Gibsons specs page on the 2016 ES175 Figured model, and indeed, they don't specific where the rosewood came from. I was also interested that the capacitors for the tone control differ by pickup: the neck pickup has a .015mf cap and the bridge pickup has .022mf cap, which I found really intriguing since I always think in terms of .022 or .047 or the like.

    Also, the picture there seems to reflect the crazy-mounted neck pickup, but with a different shaped mounting ring so that the cant is not as extreme. Maybe the problem was not the angle, per se, but the part used?

    Gibson ES-175D - Giant Steps-es7516vsnh1_electronics_side-jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stringswinger
    Very nice JD. You and a 175 are a well suited match (IMO, the 175 is the ultimate jazz guitar. Joe Pass, Herb Ellis Jim Hall and countless others have proven that). I am going to suggest that you keep this one. Sure, there are always going to be guitars that you will want to "test", but in the end, you will come home to the 175. And it might as well be this one, a gift from a special friend.

    I have noticed that this new (2016) model 175 does have some extra sustain. And it is the most "unacoustic" 175 that I have owned. It is very much an "electric" guitar. I changed the TOM to a rosewood saddle and like it way better. While I think the titanium saddles add sustain, I also think they add brightness (and I prefer warmth). The Grovers add sustain for sure (and a few ounces of weight!). I doubt that the red spruce braces or tubeless trussrod adds sustain, but both most certainly have an affect on tone. I like this new model for what she is, but I do prefer the older ones (I like a bit more "acoustic" tone in my electric archtops). I think these guitars were made to be played loud. The heavy construction probably aids in feedback control. No "Doug's plugs" will be needed for these. The woods are different as well. The maple is more lightly figured than the curly maple used in the past and the fingerboard does not look like Indian Rosewood. Perhaps an African rosewood? The rolled binding does feel good and the fretwork is first rate.

    Keep the videos coming!
    SS, Thanks bud.
    You are very right about the least acoustic 175. Conversely my 165 sounds so much more acoustic.
    But I really like what they did with this guitar. It’s an excellent instrument.
    I will always favor the 175. But I plan on getting just as good on a 17” and an 18”. I have to practice more. I could do it.
    Thanks, JD

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    Thanks for this conversation. You guys are helping me understand why I love my new 2016 Figured 175 so much. I visited Gruhn's in Nashville today and was able to play a number of vintage hollowbodies (L5s, 400s, 175s). I agree that, perhaps, acoustically the 2016 might not sound as good as the vintage instruments I played, but plugged in, it sounded better than any of the others (except perhaps this one particular 1955 L5!)

    I'm so glad L-S pointed out the capacitor value difference. I didn't notice that on the spec sheet but could tell from my ears that something was different about the way that tone control on the neck PUP behaved.