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ThatRhythmMan, great guitar and story, and you are so enthusiastic about it,
Thanks for the photos. You enjoy it.
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08-01-2018 03:48 PM
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ThatRhythmMan,
I was about 10 yo ish cant recall, i saw a cover of Herb Ellis Man with the guitar on the wall, it was a Jazz Blues Rock store owned by a Indian chap, ive never forgotten that cover i used to gaze at it wondering what type of music it was, later 20+ years i got the record, im on my 2nd ES-165.
And you have it............................ hey look after that guitar, son.
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Well we know where Herb's, Pat's and Jim's 175's are . Joe's 175 is a mystery. Joe's son, Joe Pass Junior, told me about 15 years ago that he thinks John Pisano stole it from him. John Pisano denied that in a phone conversation with me (I have a tape recording of that conversation.) A well known jazz guitarist told me off the record that John Pisano does have it ( I will not reveal the name of that guitarist here).
That guitar, which was a gift to Joe Pass in 1962 is about as iconic a jazz guitar as there is and it's whereabouts remain a mystery.
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Originally Posted by Stringswinger
Maybe "stole" is the wrong word. Maybe he borrowed it (with Joe's approval) when Joe was ill, or in a weak moment Joe said, "Hey John, why don't you take my 175? I won't be able to take it with me."
Either way, we must assume they were not on bad terms when Joe became sick and declined.
That is a true mystery.
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Originally Posted by Durban
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I thought that Pisano was known to have Pass's last Gibson, given to him by Joe's widow. I've also heard there was a lot of disagreement and strife within Joe's families after he died, over the estate etc.
Here Pisano mentions having Joe's thnline ES-175, which I assume is the last Gibson from 1992 and Joe's Borys. I've never seen a picture of that guitar.
John Pisano | Vintage Guitar(R) magazineLast edited by Cunamara; 08-02-2018 at 01:03 AM.
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Originally Posted by Cunamara
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Weird that it's listed as "Scrapple"...here's the Discogs entry:
Herb Ellis - Texas Swings (CD, Album) at Discogs
And the Allmusic:
Texas Swings - Herb Ellis | Songs, Reviews, Credits | AllMusic
Google fail!
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Hi my friend.
I'm french and live in west center of France.
I am lucky because I have the same toy, 1963, with the same pick up , the same rare damper ( made by Pat farrand) and the same fantastic sound with my old Polytone Mini-brute II 1982.I use the same strings, 12 or 13, it's depends.
But I haven't got the same fingers !!!
And for me too, Herb Ellis was the best.
If you travel in France, you're welcome at home.
Jean Pierre
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Originally Posted by sgosnell
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TRM,
Wow! What a lovely guitar and piece of history! I listen to (or play something I learned from) Herb Ellis every day.
To paraphrase Pink Floyd, "Be careful with the axe, Eugene!" ;o)
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Mark, I don't know how that happens, either. My CD lists it as "Billie's Bounce". I have some other CDs on which Google mixes up the titles, including some by Ella Fitzgerald especially. The CDs have the correct titles, but any time I stream them, the titles are completely wrong, and there are also others. I have no idea why.
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Originally Posted by sgosnell
https://www.amazon.com/Texas-Swings-...gateway&sr=8-1
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I miss Herb! He was a great player and a humble guy.
He let me play your guitar back in '86-'87. It remains my favorite ES-175 to this day.
Cheers!
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I think I bought my CD soon after it was released, but it has been a long time and I can't recall exactly. All I'm sure of is that it lists the song as "Billie's Bounce".
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Originally Posted by Rousseau Jean Pierre
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Originally Posted by sgosnell
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Hello together,
awesome to see the original guitar of Ellis!
Can someone pls. tell me what strings he‘ve used on this beautiful 175? I’ve heard that he changed some specific strings from the original set. Is that true?
… what I can se is, that it must be a set of Thomastik Flats
thank you
have a great timeLast edited by Seven; 06-29-2021 at 05:48 AM.
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Originally Posted by Seven
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Originally Posted by Seven
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Just a side note-Bruce Forman is the caretaker of Barney's ES 350. Barney's wife gave it to him to play on long term lone.
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Originally Posted by Doug B
Barney Kessel's Circa 1946/1947 Gibson ES-350 Sunburst Archtop Electric Guitar. ... (Total: 3 ) Barney Kessel's Circa 1946/1947 Gibson ES-350 Sunburst Archtop | Lot #85013 | Heritage Auctions Barney Kessel's Circa 1946/1947 Gibson ES-350 Sunburst Archtop | Lot #85013 | Heritage Auctions
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I read the interview w/Bruce someone posted here and he said he bought it from the guy that bought it at auction
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Originally Posted by ThatRhythmMan
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Thanks for the pics! I had a wonderful experience hanging out and playing with Herb in the early 90's (I backed him up at a clinic and sat in a tune at his concert. I'm forever grateful to him and his manager Terry Holmes for giving me such a big opportunity when I was just starting out) One of the main pieces of advice he had was to make sure the pole piece screws on the pickup were adjusted to give you even volume across all six strings, great to have a reference of where Herb set his...
Best wishes for your music,
PK
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