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    Philippe Bosset Strings-image-jpg

    Now officially and happily endorsing Philippe Bosset strings, especially the Soft Brass set for acoustic archtop guitars. Best I've tried. They threw in a few tin-plated trebles for me to try.

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    Rob,
    Very sexy bro..

    I think you guys on the other side of the "pond" have the best choices for strings and at the best prices too.

    I am glad for you. And a little jealous too..

    Joe D

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    Why jealous, Joe? Here they are in the US, and at a great price too:

    Phillipe Bosset Acoustique 80/20 Bronze Acoustic Guitar Strings 13-56

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    If 80/20 is not your thing, I highly recommend their phosphor bronze set:

    Philippe Bosset Acoustique Phos Bronze Acoustic Guitar Strings 13-56 : Strings By Mail

    ...other sizes available.

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    Rob,

    I'm getting a couple sets to try, found Phillipe Bosset at Strings by Mail so I
    will take the plunge.

    Thanks for the recommendation.

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    Let's face it. The best strings in the world are all made in Europe. We pay a high price for them in the USA. I think that is where the jealousy lies. IMO American made strings are junk.

    Many years ago America made fine round core strings. That is no longer the case.

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    Well, Vinny, we in Europe pay nearly twice what you do for guitars. That really hurts. Given the option of cheap quality strings or cheap quality guitars...I'd opt for the guitars! But, yes, we do make nice strings here.

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    Has anybody tried Curt Mangan Strings (curtmangan.com)? It's a small company in Colorado who sells mostly direct or through mom and pop music stores. I've used them for years and they're the best strings I've ever tried. They last probably three times longer than any other brand I've used, and even when they wear out the tone from them is still usable. They make strings in many materials - Monel, stainless steel, nickel wound and pure nickel, both round and flatwound, and also with both hex and round core. They source their materials exclusively from U. S. manufacturers. Just curious to know if anyone uses them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob MacKillop
    Well, Vinny, we in Europe pay nearly twice what you do for guitars. That really hurts. Given the option of cheap quality strings or cheap quality guitars...I'd opt for the guitars! But, yes, we do make nice strings here.
    Solid point ya got there Rob. I've got comeback for that one.

    JD

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    the biggest area of difference between usa and european string makers..especially as pertains to jazz players... is that only the europeans make a non stainless steel flatwound...thomastik and pyramids are vintage style- pure nickel..and rotosound makes a monel flat set

    huge difference! in cost..tone...feel, and longevity

    stateside every string company insists on stainless steel flats...material cost$ no doubt the issue, but you'd think some enterprising usa company would offer some pure nickel flats... especially with thomastiks increasing popularity with the jazz and roots rockabilly crowd...they've been blowing it for years already

    cheers

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    I'm currently in a new string experimenting stage. I'll have to try these out next on my old '34 L7

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    Quote Originally Posted by robertm2000
    Has anybody tried Curt Mangan Strings (curtmangan.com)? It's a small company in Colorado who sells mostly direct or through mom and pop music stores. I've used them for years and they're the best strings I've ever tried.
    I started using them this year and really like them. Great on my acoustic archtop guitars.

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    i 've also heard that curt mangan makes quite the string.

    i also thought "nsd" was in reference to socks, and i'd see some sweet new footwear. disappointing.

    but since i'm in the string market again, what makes these different or better than what's available in the states? especially for acoustic flat top and arch top guitars?

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    They ARE available in the States. What makes them better? You won't know till you try. I'm not being facetious, as you have to try them on your guitar with your technique. I imagine if you have an acoustic archtop with a floater rather than an inset humbucker, they will really help bring out the acoustic character of your instrument. They made my D'Aquisto sparkle like no other string. So, they are better for me when I play this instrument.

    Sorry about the socks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinnyv1k
    IMO American made strings are junk.
    I don't think EUROPEANS quite agree with you, as American-made strings (for electric and acoustic guitar, that is) still generate the majority of bulk sales. In Europe. Fun fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LtKojak
    I don't think EUROPEANS quite agree with you, as American-made strings (for electric and acoustic guitar, that is) still generate the majority of bulk sales. In Europe. Fun fact.
    That's interesting and I'm not really surprised to hear it. I would say that since I started playing guitar in the sixties virtually every set of strings I have bought has been American. I had no idea that European brands were so revered across the pond. I don't often experiment since I find D'Addario Chrome flatwounds to be the perfect string for me. Out of curiosity I bought a couple of sets of TI Jazz Swings recently which was a most uncomfortable and expensive experience. I know they are highly recommended by many but they don't work for me. I don't know of any other European brand that might compare favourably with the feel, tone, durability and price of Chromes but I would be happy to hear recommendations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoneground
    I don't know of any other European brand that might compare favourably with the feel, tone, durability and price of Chromes but I would be happy to hear recommendations.
    Well, I can vouch for the following made-in-Italy: Galli strings:

    JF Jazz Flat Elettrica : JF1252 med light

    These are the ones I replaced the D'Adds with: Hex core, extremely low finger noise, not coated but nonetheless last an eternity and a half without being too hard on the frets.

    That's what I'd try next: Dogal strings. Round core, made in Italy

    EXPRESSIVE JAZZ STRINGS - Dogal

    My choice would be the R40D set. 12-52

    HTH,
    Last edited by LtKojak; 06-22-2017 at 02:19 PM.

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    If anyone wants to continue a thread about American v European strings, could they please create another thread with that heading. My intention was share my news about my endorsement of the Philippe Bosset strings. We've drifted somewhat from that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob MacKillop
    If anyone wants to continue a thread about American v European strings, could they please create another thread with that heading. My intention was share my news about my endorsement of the Philippe Bosset strings. We've drifted somewhat from that.
    Agree Rob, got off track a bit. Congrats on your endorsement deal with Phillipe Bosset strings. I plan to try them out.

    (UPDATE: I just ordered a set from Strings By Mail. Lookin' forward to giving them a go.)
    Last edited by archtopeddy; 06-22-2017 at 02:39 PM.

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    Thank you!

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    oh, yes, congratulations are most certainly in order. how did that come about? did they find themselves unable to resist your rugged, black and white masculinity?

    and if anyone one were to care about the acoustic sound of an archtop it would be you, i suppose. but do the strings play well with floating pickups? have you experimented with inset humbuckers and flat tops also, by chance?

    (i plan to stock up on strings once the 4th of july sales come around so i'm doing my homework now)

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    Thanks. I did write to them, saying I'd tried about a dozen brands, and found theirs the best for acoustic archtop. The 80/20 strings do not get picked up as well as the phosphor bronze strings (which they also make), so I got Aaron Armstrong (Kent's son) to make me a Benedetto-style floater specifically tuned to picking up 80/20 strings, and it works beautifully. That said, I hardly ever play through an amp...but if I need to, I know I'm going to get a good sound.

    For inset humbuckers, I would opt for the phosphor bronze variety. I haven't used them on a flattop yet, but have a small-bodied Taylor which might enjoy them. I might try them on that soon.

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    Congrats Rob- I can't seem to find any info regarding tension of the 80/20 or PB sets . Anyone seen any info? . I'm currently using DR Rare strings which claim to be comparatively low tension for a given diameter.

    cheers

    Will

    1951 Gibson Super 300

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    I don't know either. You could drop them an email. They are very sociable, and speak English.

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    Rob and Crew...

    Just got my Phillipe Bosset Bronze 80/20 1356 strings, was sooooo excited!!

    Started stringing my Magnolia, and knew I was in trouble right away....

    ... they are too short for my 17" guitars.

    3rd and 4th strings are the culprits.

    These gorgeous strings are 36" long and my Trenier is 35.75", the sweet L7C is 35.25"

    (I measured (thrice)*** from tailstop to D-post)...

    Good news is they should work nicely on my 16" guitar(s) which measured at 33.5" ***

    For reference, the usual bronze 80/20 strings I buy (John Perarse) are ~42" long ***
    They even work on my massive 18" Emperor

    For your 18" that is incoming, I suggest you continue to buy strings in 10' lengths!!


    ***

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    Sorry to hear that, Papa, but you must have one of the old sets. The same thing happened with my D'Aquisto, so I wrote to them and complained. Within two hours they sent an email saying they were immediately changing their machines to create longer lengths, and then they sent me replacements for the D and G strings.

    At the time I created a thread about my experience here:

    Philippe Bosset Strings - great strings and service!

    Now, I suggest you email to contact@tolito.fr saying exactly what you say above, and also mentioning my name. There must be some of the old packets out there, but I'm sure they will send you replacements. I guess they weren't expecting guitars with such long heads.

    I was impressed that after one email, they changed their machinery, and sent me replacements at no charge.

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    Unbelievable....

    Took them a whole 3 hours (on a Saturday...In Europe...no less)
    to both reply and ask for my address to send me the longer strings....

    That is great (actually above AND beyond) customer service!!!

    Thanks Rob for the help, I did exactly what you said, they took care of me.... FAST!!

    Can't wait to check out the "Soft Brass". Cheers!!

    PWooly

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    Glad to hear it, but not surprised either. I hope you like them!

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    My Phillipe Bosset replacement strings have arrived...


    Philippe Bosset Strings-strings-jpg

    I immediately put a new set on my Trenier Magnolia...

    Exquisite! Balanced, clear, crisp sound.
    Very musical strings, I just hear music, even when struck hard
    the fundamental tone sings clear and sustains w/o harsh overtones.

    Thanks Rob for letting us in on this great brand of strings.



    Very impressed. Thanks Rob for laying the groundwork.

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    ...I also sent a note to "Strings by Mail" alerting them on the "short string" issue.

    Basically... "Please fix this as I will be buying the brand FOREVER ..."

    just unbelievable strings...

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    I wish I was on commission ;-) Enjoy your new guitar (for so it will seem).

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    Hey, based on your recommendation, I gave them a try, and I'm pretty impressed.
    That said, it takes a me a couple "back-and-forth" strings changes until I feel like I can really understand the difference between the strings.

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    Glad you didn't waste your money, Jonathan.

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    interesting. is it just pb, 80/20s and nylons that they offer? going to start going through my string backlog before i try anything else because i already have them, but i think i may try a set or two for future reference. traditionally been a john pearse pb guy, but the new daddario nickel bronze weren't bad. have several sets of those and freebie dadarrio pbs to burn through first.

    wouldn't mind a few of the pb sets, for both my flat tops and my archtop. how long does the good tone last? i'm not overly acidic but i never change my strings. like, ever. and i do wonder how these would sound on my new guild m20. its my first all hog so i'm not sure which strings would suit it best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob MacKillop
    Now officially and happily endorsing Philippe Bosset strings, especially the Soft Brass set for acoustic archtop guitars. Best I've tried. They threw in a few tin-plated trebles for me to try.
    Congrats for Your endorsing deal, Rob, but... I doubt that pile of strings will last for years: how are You gonna prevent those metal strings from oxidizing and rusting? They are not in vacuum, those paper bags will not prevent them from moisture. Specially in the climate of Edinburgh!

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    What? It's 90 degrees here all year round! I'll worry about rust when it happens. All the more reason to change them more often.

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    So far, I played one gig with them, and then just a bit around the house.
    I'm really digging the sound, but I am noticing a bit of wear a bit quicker than I'd expected, given the limited play. But, it's hard to know just based on the single sample.
    Given that they're double the price of the Martin SP 80/20's I used to use, and a little bit less than double the price of the Martin Monels I've been mostly using lately, they might be the kind of thing I save for recording sessions and especially important gigs.

    But, the really indication will be what it sounds like when I switch back.
    If the difference bugs me, I may have to stick with the Bosset.

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    Man, these strings sound pretty great...Dang it, Rob...! I blame you.

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    You should contact them, Jonathan, tell them about your website and recordings. They might offer you a 50% discount for mentioning them in a blog post or something.

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    I guy can dream!

    Boy, I could never get Eastman or Loar to give the time of day (at least after my buddy Gordon at Eastman left), and I know I've sold a ton of Loars on my recommendation, and several Eastman. At least Vintage '47 is super-nice to work with.

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    Just received some 80/20 1356 Bosset strings. Wow!!!! by far and away the most musical strings I have tried on my 1951 Gibson Super 300 18" acoustic. Beautiful balanced , rich , pure tone that really makes my guitar sing. With my guitar held close I can feel a deep sonorous resonance in my chest I'm hooked thanks Rob

    Will

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    I´ve played a set of Soft Brass 12 gauge strings on my Hofner 455/S acoustic archtop for around the last two weeks, but after two days in which I played for around 5 hours, they lost their brilliance tone. I am with WillMbCdn5, they are well balanced and got a full deep bass on E6 and A5 string. Also the tension of the 12 gauge set was too hard to play for my left hand. Today I changed to a set of 12 gauge Thomastik BeBops. Softer too play, but with less bass and different tone. Next I will try a set of 11 gauge Thomastik Plectrum 80/20.

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    Hello zombie thread. 4 years later, these are still my preferred strings on acoustic archtops. Both the 80/20 and the PB sets are amazing. I even mailed a set to Bryant Trenier for when he completes my Broadway.