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    More info and photos to follow....

    I think they look good together

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    Nice, given your handle, are you going to get a Dearmond for the L7 like Burrell's 60's D'angelico setup? That would give you roughly the same gear as Burrell for both the 50's and 60's. Then you just need to get a Super 400 with humbuckers and you'll have the full set.

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    Wow, they look perfect. What a combination. Congratulations!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ingeneri
    Nice, given your handle, are you going to get a Dearmond for the L7 like Burrell's 60's D'angelico setup? That would give you roughly the same gear as Burrell for both the 50's and 60's. Then you just need to get a Super 400 with humbuckers and you'll have the full set.
    Yes I think a Rhythm Chief is probably on the cards, but I'm really enjoying the L-7 just as is. Restrung it earlier and sorted the intonation.... very happy

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    In my experience things from 1961 tend to have persistent back and neck issues, and that's after all the hair falls out!
    That's a pair that would beat a full house, enjoy.

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    all you need ... well, you don't *really* need the cutaways and bridge pickup:

    '60s Gibson L-7C-wp_20170616_001-jpg

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    Those early 60's L-7's are superb guitars. Congrats. And IMO, nothing beats a vintage DeArmond on an acoustic archtop.

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    I love L7C's! That is a really one too.

    My L7c was a tremendously good guitar. I wish I still had it. I would have put medium Jumbo frets on it and then it probably would have been my favorite guitar.

    Lots of luck. Thanks for sharing.

    Joe D.

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    Pretty sure tuners aren't original. The nut is pretty crazy, will sort that out soon I think.

    Not sure about the pickguard? Don't think its Gibson or original.

    I think it had some overspray many years ago, but I don't think it's been refinished. It's very dark on back and sides compared to some I've seen. Back has nice figure in the right light though.

    A fair bit of checking. Not a scratch, chip or dent anywhere.
    Sounds and plays beautifully!
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    Beautiful guitar. It looks like an "acorn" nut on the pickguard bracket. Gibson didn't use acorns, so that appears to be a replacement. Not a big deal, but I would try to search out an old Gibson bracket if it was mine.
    Keith

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    Pickguardian sells the correct bracket with proper nut for a very reasonable price: Gibson-Style ES-335/175 Complete Bracket Assembly | Pickguardian

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    The pickguard is definitely after-market. Gibson used a 3-ply pickguard for their L-7C's. Again, Pickguardian is probably the best place to get a replacement. Reasonable prices, and he makes the pickguard to the specific measurements of your guitar.

    -Travis

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    I have an Allparts pickguard here that I will use for the DeArmond 1100 mount and pots. Probably will need to be notched out slightly so I don't mind doing that to a repro.

    I will check out Pickguardian for bracket. Are their pickguards of better quality than the Allparts versions?

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    Tony at Pickguardian is making me a pickguard for my L-7C right now. He had me take measurements of the side hole on the neck in order to get the pickguard to sit properly. Also, the mass-produced ones are not always the correct bevel - Tony makes an accurate 30 degree bevel on his pickguards.

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    Think I will look at getting a more correct L-7C pickguard from Pickguardian down the track. This Allparts one should be fine for mounting pickup, jack and controls on.

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    I just pulled the trigger on this guitar last night:

    Gibson L-7C 1967 Sunburst with Original Hardshell Case | Reverb

    A little backstory. I started a combo last year with my wife on upright bass playing gypsy jazz, trad jazz and Prohibition era swing. I bought a Gibson L4-C for that group about a year ago and I like it, but the neck is bigger than I'm comfortable with. Years ago I had a Gibson ES-125TDC that I really loved. The neck had been broken and replaced with a Gibson blank so it looked correct but no serial number. I'm guessing that neck must have been from the late 60s because it was incredibly thin and so easy to play.

    I've always been a sucker for thin necks, but it's really hard to find an archtop with one so I'm taking a huge chance on this guitar. But I've wanted an all solid carved archie with a thin neck and this is the first one I've found that seems to fit the bill. If I like it I'll post my L-4 for sale here. I put a lot of money into last year, it's a real player.

    I'll get the L-7 next Tuesday and will post my impressions (and maybe a video) soon after. Fun.

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    That's certainly a sweet looking instrument, and the neck looks sufficiently narrow. Congratulations, and play it in good health!

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    I saw that one during my recent Reverb travels, and it looks great! But I’m especially impressed that your wife plays upright bass. Now that’s something I would be thrilled about! Good luck with the guitar. Look forward to hearing about it.

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    Looks great, I hope you love it! I've got an old one with a DeArmond rhythm chief, it plays great and sounds amazing!

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    Congrats on the beautiful new Gibson, I too have an L7C acoustic that now has a floating pickup, and can definitely say it will sound great.
    Imperial tuners in nickel look good, I do think an endpin jack would have been better than making a hole in the side, and the strap button placement would not be first choice. But overall it's a winnner and I hope you post more on it after it arrives.

    I don't think I've ever seen an L7 with bound f-holes, anyone know "when" Gibson did that?

    John

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    Very nice! I notice it has bound f holes. That is a nice touch which is not normally found on an L7. I hope the guitar is everything you are looking for. L7’s are great guitars. I have one and I love it.
    Keith

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    Quote Originally Posted by john_a
    I don't think I've ever seen an L7 with bound f-holes, anyone know "when" Gibson did that?
    Gibson did not bind L-7 f-holes.
    This either a special order request, a mistake or a modification.

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    Thanks for the well wishes guys, you folks never miss a detail do you? So I agree the strap button is in an odd place, I know a guy who does amazing woodwork at very reasonable rates. I'll call him if I decide to have it moved to the back where I'd prefer it. The Grover Imperial tuners are fun, not my preference, I like the original Kluson keys better but I'll probably just leave it.

    As for the bound F-holes I'll try to get some close-ups when it arrives. That's supposed to be one of the differences between the L5 and the L7, we'll probably never know how that got there but it is an interesting detail.

    I'm still a little anxious until I have this baby in my hands, but you guys are definitely making me feel more confident about the purchase. Thanks!

    PS My wife and I went to Frank Vignola's gypsy jazz camp last summer (awesome experience, worth every penny). Just before one of the evening performances I was walking past a group of my fellow students and heard one fellow announce, "that's the smartest guy here, he married a bass player!" I got a good chuckle from that.

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    That is a beautiful L-7. Bet the binding/f-holes was a special request. Gibson did stuff like that with some frequency through the 1960s.

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    Okay full disclosure it arrived yesterday but I was having too much fun playing with it to post. Guitar was packed like a mummy, took me like 20 minutes to get it completely unpacked. Great seller! It arrived with really thin strings so I restringed it with my favorite D’Addario EJ-21 set (12-52 roundwound). I’m primarily a Swing guitarist and vocalist so I’m not a fan of flats.

    I wanted a big acoustic sound I just wasn’t getting from my L-4 and this one has it. The tone is gorgeous, the neck is perfect and it’s in showroom condition! For $3,500 I really feel like I got a deal. I’m still adjusting to the thin neck after playing that 1958 L-4 for the last year but my band Parlor Swing has a gig Saturday and I’m definitely taking this baby!

    i just recorded a couple of videos I’ll see if I can figure out how to post them.

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    Okay let’s give this a try.


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    Great news! It's good to hear that your guitar arrived safely and it meets your expectations. Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy!

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    Enjoy! Swing away! Super guitar.

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    Tony... My Doppleganger! Great work, you are feeling it, L7C's rule!

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    So it’s late on Saturday night, just want to report in on this weekend’s gigs. Friday night we played an hour at a small nursing home where my wife works. We just played acoustically and the L-7 held up beautifully.

    Then we had a 4 hr gig this afternoon that was awesome. I booked it through Gigmasters. A caterer holds these events every few months to promote her business. There were 350 guests there, event planners, couples planning their weddings, etc. We were a big hit, gave out a bunch of business cards. People love this old time Swing man. Oh and I spent some time this morning dialing in the L-7 with my Quilter amp, so I had a great tone going plus the guitar is so easy to play. That’s the longest gig I’ve played in years, my back is killing me but my hands are fine. Oh and the food was spectacular. Great exposure and they paid us!

    The funniest part was just as we were about to start playing some dude walked by and said “nice L-5”. I was so surprised I just said thanks. I couldn’t love this guitar more if it was an L-5, not to mention it would have cost at least $10K. My wife is in the group so I was glad she heard that comment. This is the most expensive guitar I’ve ever bought by like a grand. I’m having trouble convincing her it’s worth it. That helped.

    Anyway just had to report that to the group. I can’t believe more people aren’t on to these L-7s. It sounds funny to call a $3,500 guitar a bargain but compared to other vintage Gibsons it really is!

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    Nice guitar. Man, you can cook! Post as often as you can.

    Tony D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pilotony
    Nice guitar. Man, you can cook! Post as often as you can.

    Tony D.
    Thanks Tony, having a great guitar like this makes me want to practice more. I can hear how sloppy my playing has become. I also still need to adjust to this neck, it’s so different from what I’ve been playing. I noticed last night I would go for a certain lick or run and just whiff on it completely. Embarrassing. Not that anyone noticed (thank goodness).

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    Hey everybody,
    Johnny Smith is without a doubt my favorite guitarist and musician so when the price dropped on a L-7C I've been watching I started thinking of ways to swing it. Basically its a 60s L7 that already had a floating pickup at some point so I have no objections to adding a JS. I just picked up a Broadway, so if I pull this off too, I will use the rest of the shelter in place period as an audition and keep whichever one I bond with more (or sell the rest of my gear sans my Polytone to keep them both). I know the L7 is longer scale length and is not X-braced, but I figured it would be convincing enough for my sloppy playing. The only thing that concerns me with this L7 is the swapped bridge; its been changed to a nylon saddle TOM and is all the way up. I have some pictures of the arch and neck angle and it all seems good to me... so think the TOM base is just thin compared to the original. Anything look questionable here? '60s Gibson L-7C-l7-bridge-jpg'60s Gibson L-7C-neck-angle-jpg'60s Gibson L-7C-u8mthk7w34mi507kzike-jpg

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    that's a really steep angle, I'd be tempted to put either a new bridge or taller saddle on it.

    I'm not a fan of TOM's on acoustics anyway.

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    Get one that goes all the way across the top no feet. Buy a whole new saddle and bridge, solid one and then use sandpaper and get it to sit perfect to the top. Need to get a taller saddle for sure. Cannot tell the neck angle from pictures but probably fine. GO with ebony and I personally never use one of those already compensated saddles. Then have the ebony saddle carved to the proper offset and I think intonation is actually better. Use the TOM to get intonation on the 2 e strings then do with compensation.

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    Thanks for the insight guys! I have made small intonation adjustments sanding a rosewood saddle before, but how hard is the whole process on an ebony one? Or is it best left to a luthier?

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    Rosewood or ebony they both sand. Given the situation in the world you can take your time and do it your self. Buy a pre-done ebony saddle and bridge they run about $30. Then sand to match the curve of top. Here is saddle I put on my super 400. Note I only put a saddle on and put the TOM in case the bridge still same of course Note the compensation and it is intonated as well as the TOM was.

    '60s Gibson L-7C-img_1358-jpg

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    I agree. A TOM on an acoustic archtop in imo affects tonality. Good luck and congrats on the L7. I have a 68 L7 C and it's a great guitar.

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    Arch looks rather "flat" to me. But if it plays well, let it be.

    You could try ebony washers as shims around the bridge posts...

    http://delsnantuckets.com/Ebony-Wash...ir_p_1163.html

    A new ebony bridge and saddle would probably be great though.

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    You might also start looking for a new pickguard. The one on there is warped, probably from a bad fit. Also, I would never guarantee that a solid base sounds better than one with feet. IME it depends on the individual guitar and bridge base. I have a couple of guitars that sound worse with a solid base, and some that sound better. No way to know without trying both. And of course, better is subjective, and may be different for different listeners. I would certainly try a solid base, since it's difficult to buy just a saddle or just a base, they generally come as a set. That setup does look pretty high, but photos can be deceiving, so the neck angle might be fine. The pictures don't show the action, so I can't guess.

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    You guys are great. I did not even notice the pickguard until just now, and zooming in on the one picture the top sorta appears to dip towards bridge and back out. I have asked a few more questions. I would rather avoid being in a situation where i want to make a return in today's world. If I still go through with it I'm hopeful i can find a company that produces both types of bridges, then I only need to shape one saddle for 2 bases. The neck angle is surely steeper than my Broadway, but it's angle is low if anything. If I shy away from this, I will probably look for one of the L-7C reissues with the X bracing.