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    I know what Leo thought, but do any if you like this legendary grunge guitar's clean jazz tones?

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    Not a lot of jazz players use a jazzmaster but it's not like it can't be used



    Then again, he could make a broom work.


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    love the jazzmaster!! it has two seperate circuits for the neck pup!! a jazz mans fantasy!!

    when leo fender introduced the jazzmaster, he wasn't kidding around..he was seriously competing with archtops!!...borrowed the p90 design and tweaked it into the jazzmaster pickup...a great jazz pup if there ever was one

    leo was western swing guy..got the jazzmaster into the hands of monster players like jimmy bryant and roy lanham...here's roy..very under the radar player...was western and western swing but obviously familiar with johnny smith type playing




    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by blille View Post
    Not a lot of jazz players use a jazzmaster but it's not like it can't be used



    That's a Jaguar not a JazzMaster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by docbop View Post
    That's a Jaguar not a JazzMaster.
    You are absolutely correct. I just remembered the video and posted it.


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    there are shots of joe p with a jazzmaster tho

    Does anybody use Jazzmaster for jazz?-big_joephoto1-jpeg

    cheers

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    another legend who used a jm... (and a very early one at that!!)

    rip mickey baker



    cheers

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    Remember all these guys used flatwound strings which also mellowed their tone as well.

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    Yep, serial offset offender right here!

    Does anybody use Jazzmaster for jazz?-sdc11277-480x640-jpg
    It's a J Mascis Squier jazzmaster. I use it primarily for a covers band I'm part of.
    I've tweaked it a little. Changed the pot values of the lead circuit and beefed up the tone caps. Flatwound 12's, 43mm nut and a nice chunky neck.

    I posted up the mods on here some 4 or 5 years back. I've checked the link and all the pictures have disappeared.

    This version has P90 type pickups which work well but the trem is not lockable and the bridge is the wire capture type where the saddles wiggle when you wang (!).

    I would re-badge this guitar as a Jack-master as its a Jack of all trades but master of none.

    The covers band I'm in has a 60 tune songbook and it covers Status Quo to Bond theme. Show tunes and pop songs. Abba to Madness. It does funky Le Freak and twangy Brand New Cadillac
    They do work well with pedals and super clean amps.
    It's good at covering all bases...


    This is a good representation of the type of vanilla tone it does.



    Funny thing is I was looking for a Telecaster when I noticed the JM JM hanging on the music shop wall.
    I played it for an hour and was smitten. One shopper thought I was demoing gear for the shop! When I told him I was a punter like him he started getting interested in the JM. I immediately bought it as I knew it was for me.


    Some crazy licks!

    Now that Fender has reclaimed the Jazzmaster and Jaguar and are squeezing the life out of the design now is the best time to get one. The Squier line is the best bang for coin.

    So I had an epiphany with this guitar. It does everything I ask it to do when I'm playing out. No more switching guitars for different tones!

    But most importantly being 6'3" it doesn't look stupid on me when hanging on a strap, but blimey its long.

    Leo got this one right for western swing
    Does anybody use Jazzmaster for jazz?-fender-stratocaster-guitar-patent-art-1960-ian-monk-jpg
    and he designed it to be played seated in an orchestra pit.

    For ultra lazy; sit down and have it strapped and hanging to the side while legs are crossed, stretched out and a cigarette hanging from the side of yer mouth. Thats the way Jazzbow rolls
    “When a wise man points at the moon the fool considers the finger.”

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    This popped up and I had to post....

    “When a wise man points at the moon the fool considers the finger.”

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    I had a '61 that I played for years. The bridge design on the original was not well thought out. It rocked back and forth on its posts, had a shallow break angle, the strings would pop out of the saddle grooves, stuff like that. A minor annoyance; I loved the guitar. The biggest deal was the noisy pickups; I always had to take a second guitar to the gig because at some clubs the house lights would make it howl. Definitely noisier than other single coil guitars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neatomic View Post
    there are shots of joe p with a jazzmaster tho

    Does anybody use Jazzmaster for jazz?-big_joephoto1-jpeg

    cheers
    Just how long did Joe play the Jazzmaster?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles View Post
    Just how long did Joe play the Jazzmaster?
    As long as he was in Synanon to kick his habit. The Jazzmaster and the Jaguar Pass has been photographed with at that time belonged to Synanon. If I remember correctly they were donated by Leo Fender, so the musicians there could have instruments to play and keep up their chops. They also had other instrument for the inmates to use. Art Pepper played tenor sax while he was there because that was available - and he ended up liking it and took some inspiration from John Coltrane. More often than not, the musicians own instruments had been sold / was in hock to finance the habit before they entered Synanon. Not long after Pass left Synanon, an admirer donated the Gibson 175 which he played for many years until it almost fell apart.

    BTW, Art Pepper has given an intersting insight in the rehabilitation program and life in general at Synanon in his - rather depressing - autobiography "Straight Life" (cowritten with his last wife Laurie, whom he met there).
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    Gosh, I had a Jazzmaster long ago, one from the 60s. I did like the electronics on it. I didn't like the hum. All in all, it was a very good solid body.
    MG

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    These noiseless JM pups sound great!

    Build bridges, not walls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nopedals View Post
    I had a '61 that I played for years. The bridge design on the original was not well thought out. It rocked back and forth on its posts
    ...I have a newer model... still issues with the "rocking bridge" bought it when I play "plugged" but don't use it much as one of my archtops has a way better "plugged" sound.. sure is a cool looking rig though, sea foam green!
    measure with micrometer... mark with chalk... cut with axe

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    I assembled a 12 string JM out of parts. It's a hardtail. I like it.

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    Call me crazy, but I find them less comfortable than a telecaster....

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    Thanks for posting the Neil LeVang (Lawrence Welk guitarist) clips. LeVang was quite a West Coast guitar slinger when I was a kid in Southern California. He varied between the Jazzmaster and Telecaster, while Buddy Merrill (also on Welk) switched between the Stratocaster and Telecaster. My parents always watched the Welk Show, so I was exposed to the hot playing of Merrill and LeVang every week.

    By the way, LeVang put bass strings on his Jazzmaster and inspired Leo Fender to make the Fender Bass VI for LeVang. The Bass VI (which LeVang used to record the famous lines on "Wichita Lineman"--not Glenn Campbell) was an artist instrument for Neil LeVang, although it was later made famous by The Beatles.

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    If it's crazy to prefer a Tele, there are zillions of crazy guitarists out there. The Tele and the Strat has sold far, far better than the Jazzmaster through all those years - IMHO for good reasons because they are well designed AND simple techically, making them very robust and reliable for travelling and gigging musicians. Also, their modular design makes them easy to customize. The Strat may be the most versatile and most ergonomic electric guitar ever designed. String it up with thin roundwound strings and you have a fine rock/blues/surf sound. Block the tremolo and string it up with medium or heavy flatwounds and you have a good jazz sound from the neck PU which is perfectly placed.
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    Oops. Double post. Sorry.
    Last edited by oldane; 04-12-2017 at 01:18 PM.
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    This question pops up from time to time and I always post the same answer.



    I know it's a Jaguar, but it's in the same family.

    Danny W.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles View Post
    These noiseless JM pups sound great!

    These JM JM's are fantastic guitars for the money. No floating bridge so intonation is kinda spot on with limited wanging (!).

    The original pickups are 'hot' and the alpha pot values didn't help so I swapped them for 500k volume and 250k tone. I couldn't be happier. Very responsive.

    I have been on the look out for other pickups and the most interesting maker I've found is Curtis Novak.

    Lots of options for the JM, one being a Charlie Christian type P90

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    He even does a JM neck pickup for a Tele without the need for routing. Check it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles View Post
    These noiseless JM pups sound great!

    These JM JM's are fantastic guitars for the money. No floating bridge so intonation is kinda spot on with limited wanging (!).

    The original pickups are 'hot' and the alpha pot values didn't help so I swapped them for 500k volume and 250k tone. I couldn't be happier. Very responsive.

    I have been on the look out for other pickups and the most interesting maker I've found is Curtis Novak.

    Lots of options for the JM, one being a Charlie Christian type P90

    Does anybody use Jazzmaster for jazz?-jm-ccr1-jpg

    CurtisNovak.com - Pickups and Guitars | JM-CCR Pickup

    Ultimate Jazzmaster!

    He even does a JM neck pickup for a Tele without the need for routing. Check it out.
    “When a wise man points at the moon the fool considers the finger.”

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    I have a Squire Jazzmaster Vintage Modified, which I bought mostly because I got nostalgic - back in the day I had a 1965 of the real ones.
    To my surprise the Squire is a great guitar. Well, except for the bridge which - like the rest of the guitar - is a replica of the Fender 1965 model and already then the bridge was not good. I have replaced it with the one below from Staytrem. Made of steel, does not rock, the strings are kept in place and the saddles are easy to intonate. Not exactly cheap, but worth the cost.

    I keep the tone pot at around 2-4 and then the stock Duncan design PU's sounds great.
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    the mascis jazzmaster actually has p90 style inspired/designed pickups...slug polepieces and a bar magnet..."normal" fender jm pups have magnet polepieces.ala strats and teles...

    mascis also has a tuneamatic bridge..and the trem has been moved closer to the bridge...for a sharper angle over the saddles to prevent string skipping


    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by neatomic View Post
    the mascis jazzmaster actually has p90 style inspired/designed pickups...slug polepieces and a bar magnet..."normal" fender jm pups have magnet polepieces.ala strats and teles...

    mascis also has a tuneamatic bridge..and the trem has been moved closer to the bridge...for a sharper angle over the saddles to prevent string skipping


    cheers
    Not forgetting the 43mm nut width, chunky neck and delicious alloy scratchplate.

    Jazzbows highly recommended twanger.
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    i recently treated my self to a MIM Jazzmaster for my 40th! hooray for me. i have made some modifications, Mastery hardware, gotoh locking tuners, tortoise pickguard, and i am extremely happy with it. i think it is my most "versatile" guitar. from warm and wooly to bright and agressive. i love the fat yet clear pickups. it's a real winner for me.

    check her out:
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    I have the J Mascis Squier Jazzmaster and it plays well and sounds good for jazz through a Fender Twin. I bought it because it is extremely comfortable to play (for me) while sitting down. The body width and shape means the neck sits at the right height for playing and not too low like most guitars. It is very easy on the back and hands.

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    as you'd technically have to be a master of jazz to do so, i think very few people qualify. that may have something to do with it.

    personally, i love the offset aesthetic. long fan of the telemaster style and i think the new ibanez talman prestige is an interesting take on it, as well. but a jazzmaster, as generally constituted, isn't for me, i don't think. maybe if they simplified the wiring and swapped in filters or minis... lots of high end builders/partscaster assemblers do that these days. the basic format seems quite popular, just not here.

    as for real jazzmasters, i think the troy van leeuwen jazzmaster one is the best looking.

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    Folks,

    with a set of 12-50 flatwound strings, a Jazzmaster with original floating bridge is great. Wonderful pickups and neat controls. Just don't string one with sewing thread, I.e., slinky string

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    I just picked up a squire jazzmaster with the intention of having it around as a project guitar and when I play some bossa nova. It's actually a fun guitar and for the price, it can't be beat. Under $300 brand new. It's black on black and it's a great little player. I have flatwounds on it and will probably upgrade the bridge at some point. I'm actually waiting for a new neck to be finished with the "hockey puck" style headstock typically found on the Fender Maverick. I'm going to be taking out the bridge pickup and leaving the neck in place. Here's a quick photoshopped pic of the single neck pickup. This is actually my first Fender and I'm just being introduced to the endless possibilities of a bolt neck guitar. I also have a P-90 that I am going to experiment with as well. I'll post a pic when I eventually bolt everything together. For jazz, fun stuff.

    Does anybody use Jazzmaster for jazz?-jazzmaster-single-pickup-jpgDoes anybody use Jazzmaster for jazz?-img_0376-jpg

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    I used that type of body for my JM-12. If I can get the pics to work here it is. Other than JM speak, the Peerless Monarch was traded for a Jazz City, and the Hagstrom is in its case and a Godin Jazz took its place. I have taken the pickguard off the Godin. The AAA flame is too nice hide to hide by plastic. I am a finger player only, so my guitars tend to retain their mint condition fairly well.
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    Jazz on a Jazzmaster? You bet!

    Jeff Matz, Jazz Guitar:
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    "Jazz is like life...it goes on longer than you think, and as soon as you're like 'oh, I get it,' it ends."

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    the hockey 'stick" (not puck!! thats round! hah) headstock was originally designed for the fender electric XII....leftover parts were the reason for the maverick...

    Does anybody use Jazzmaster for jazz?-peteinadaze-jpg Does anybody use Jazzmaster for jazz?-5084718788_34e185f27a_z-jpgDoes anybody use Jazzmaster for jazz?-fenderxii-jpg

    nice playing mr.b...that's a replacement neck.. or non fender anyways..???


    cheers

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    [QUOTE=neatomic;785503]the hockey 'stick" (not puck!! thats round! hah) headstock was originally designed for the fender electric XII....leftover parts were the reason for the maverick...

    Doh!... what was I thinking! Your right, Fender even tried to disguise the Maverick by cutting and reshaping the body so it would be slightly different from the jazzmaster body. On some guitars you can see where they cut the headstock down to make it a six string guitar. The original Fender XII was a cool guitar. As pictured, Townsend used one during the recording of Tommy and I've heard that Page used one on the recording of Stairway to Heaven. This was a good alternative to the 12 string Rickenbacker at the time which was notorious for going out of tune.

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    pagey also had a ric 12 at that time...he was always partial to 12's..had a vox 12 early on as well...

    its thought that he used the fender XII on becks bolero...that would been 1966..pre zep

    when asked what 12 he played on zep track -tangerine-, he wasn't sure if it was fender or ric 12

    and of course legend is that he used tele on stairway to heaven solo

    he was also great with a stringbender tele!!

    not your average "hard rock" guitars!! haha

    cheers

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    I just got my Jazzmaster back from the shop where it received a badly-needed refret. I’ve been playing a lot of jazz on it now, especially on the neck preset position. It has a much fuller sound if I roll off some volume at the guitar and turn the amp up a bit.
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    Just played my friends J Mascis JM and was surprised at how good it was. Neck was very nice and body sat comfortably and sturdily. It was set up well with 11 or 12 rounds. The string spacing was nice, right hand could relax and just pick, not like trying to stand still on a swaying boat (as I sometimes feel with my 335).

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    I suppose playing Jazz on a Jazzmaster was a part of Fender's marketing plan when they came up with it.

    Some years ago I traded a Martin for a nice Custom Shop 62 Reissue, my first Jazzmaster. I could see how it could go that route. I wound up selling it trying to be practical. I wasn't crazy about the neck on the one I wound up with but I was getting some nice tones out of it. It wouldn't be my first pick for jazz but it would be an option. Cool guitars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arielcee View Post
    Just played my friends J Mascis JM and was surprised at how good it was. Neck was very nice and body sat comfortably and sturdily. It was set up well with 11 or 12 rounds. The string spacing was nice, right hand could relax and just pick, not like trying to stand still on a swaying boat (as I sometimes feel with my 335).
    Ah yes, the Squiffy Jim Jam, stupidly under priced when first issued and I jumped in. It was hard to demo one as they were literally flying out of the shops! The one I got was the 6th the shop got in a row as they were the hot deal.

    The neck dimensions are spot on for my canoe paddle hands and the overall length doesn't look out of place on my lurch like body.
    So along with my ill fitting red wig and car horn nose I feel I can fit in with all you jazz cats.

    I did do a set up thread here but that's gone now. As I recall the frets were near perfect from Chinese QC (the music shops here don't do that).

    At the moment I have nickel roundwound 12's and a roller bridge. The bridge lockdown saddle radii was the usual 12" and not the typical Funday 9.5". So I cut up a soda drink can and made shims to bump up D & G (2 per saddle) + A & B (1 per saddle). Not quite 9.5" but better than flat string radii over arched frets and stoopid string rattle and bummed.....

    The roller bridge works well at keeping all (reasonably) in tune, the trem is set for pitch down and return back to tune by adjusting the trem spring. The strings do stick but pressing behind the nut and bridge everything flits back 'in' with audible clicks.

    I bought mine for around £400 + case. I wrangled a deal. I think they are deffo the best neck on the whole Squier range.

    If I were in the market I would search out for a second hand one for cheap kicks.
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