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    I love a 'reasonably-priced' guitar.

    About two-thirds of the way thru this bunch of pix you'll
    see what looks like several different width/depth arch top offerings:

    GALLERY: Summer NAMM 2016 Day 2 | Premier Guitar

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    The claim is that all the guitars feature solid spruce tops, but I wonder if any are carved.

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    Thanks, Klatu, for moving the photo. I wouldn't know how.

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    Those are Epiphones? Nice!
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    Those look fantastic to me!

    I just hope they don't all have the big retro V neck.

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    Video from Premier Guitar.


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    I want that Olympic!

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    The video was informative, although the presenter suggests that the viewer refer to their website for further information, yet nothing is up yet concerning these new guitars. I was somewhat disappointed that the Epiphone representative didn't have the details about the woods used for the back and sides and failed to mention whether the top was solid pressed or carved.

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    Very interesting and nice to see that the archtop is on its way back. I wonder what the price range is going to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotpepper01 View Post
    Very interesting and nice to see that the archtop is on its way back. I wonder what the price range is going to be.
    Premier Guitar say $500-$899 street.

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    Acoustic sound is pretty darn good. Pickup sounds awful.

    Too bad they couldn't find anybody to play some damn jazz on it.
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    A few historical discrepancies include Triumph inlays on a Deluxe model and ebony fingerboards on the Deluxe and Zenith. Interestingly enough, the original Epiphone company didn't use ebony on any of their guitars because they felt that rosewood provided a tonal advantage.

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    piezo alone is never gonna give that classic jazz tone..

    but nice, epi masterbilts are good bang for the buck usually

    cheers

    ps- btw, this is actually the new epi century..but it's not part of the masterbilt century series..
    thinline goin for 599$

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    Nice! I would imagine they have a pressed solid top, like most offerings for that price...

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    The presenter doesn't know if the sides and back are laminate....really?

    Does Gibson own this modern day Epiphone company?

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    Posted by an Epiphone rep on the official Gibson/Epiphone forum:

    "It's Summer NAMM week in Nashville, TN and Epiphone is taking this opportunity to give our retailers a preview of our new Masterbilt Century collection of "acoustic/electric" archtops. Our official consumer announcement will be on July 1st with guitars starting to arrive at authorized Epiphone retailers beginning in August. Estimated U.S. street prices are: Olympic $599, Zeniths $739 and De Luxes $899. Hard cases are optional. In addition to this information, here is a preview of our upcoming advertisement just for you, our loyal forum members.

    As always, thanks for your continued support and please be sure to visit Epiphone.com on July 1st for everything you need to know about this exciting new collection.

    Thanks again,
    Epiphone"


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    I'll have a Zenith. It's pretty much written
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont View Post
    I'll have a Zenith. It's pretty much written
    Strike that, deluxe with f holes? Whichever one mr. Black fingernail polish is enjoying.
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    nice, I'm looking to switch to an acoustic archtop, better keep an eye out on these when (if) they reach my area

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    Looks like they have nicely elevated fingerboards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont View Post
    Strike that, deluxe with f holes? Whichever one mr. Black fingernail polish is enjoying.
    I wonder what kind of fingernail polish he uses?

    I'm trying to imagine Barney Kessel with black fingernail polish...

    but.it.just.won't.come.
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    Finally, rivals to The Loar. Must check them out. I hope they reach Edinburgh.

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    nice to see gibson finally goin back to the roots of the great epiphone guitar dynasty...they have pretty much ignored the great epi tradition since they bought them out 1/2 century ago...these masterbilt series archtops are a start..lets hope some old epi electric archtop designs will follow!!! epi emperor anyone??

    btw, these new masterbilts look to have satin finishes..but a buff out would get you closer to vintage epi territory

    cheers

    ps- a good read

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    We need to be clear about one thing: The Masterbuilts will be good guitars, but nobody is going back to the roots of Epiphone. These guitars will be made in factories in Asia somewhere, rolling off the same lines as the guitars coming out with other brands. Various details of fit and finish, and accessorizing, will be specified, but we all know factory-built budget guitars from Korea or China are going to be useful, but nobody is fantasizing that we will be returning to the house of Stathopoulo. Unless they tell me the solid tops are hand-carved, I'm assuming pressed or solid-formed.

    Now, nothing's wrong with this, but I don't see anything here but (a) bringing out a line that appeals to a certain market (b) tooling up to manufacture that line at budget prices.

    Whey they bring back the full Elitist line of Epiphones, like the Elitist Broadway with the solid-carved top, I'll start talking about sipping Greek coffee with Mr. S.
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    ls- same can be said for anything and everything..is fender fender?? leo sold to cbs in 65..gibson hasnt been gibson since the 20's! jensen speaker a jensen? your ford a ford? your fiesta dishware real fiesta? becks beer is brewed in texas!

    nothing is what it was..including us!!

    but it's nice to see the classic stylings finally paid some attention to..despite the modernizing touches!!

    cheers

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    Actually some of us actually improve with age like the real deal Epiphones, LOL!

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    haha..

    but the old epi needs a neck reset, new binding, top cracks fixed and tuners replaced

    = hip replacement, prostate check, arthritis meds and hearing aid

    oh lord!


    cheers

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    They are a stylistic nod to the notion of an archtop guitar.
    They have pressed tops, like many old f-hole guitars made in the US as well as Germany.
    These are more like schlaggitarren, as opposed to archtop guitars.
    Nothing wrong with that.
    Like schlaggitarren, they may provide accessibility to a whole bunch of folks who might become more interested in archtop guitars as a result. One never knows.
    Here is a screen grab that suggests the level of "arch" to the top:
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    so epiphone finally tries something to appeal to us jazz geezers (and hopefully newbies..ie. after us the deluge) and they get the malocchio before anyone has even played one!!??

    tough crowd!!

    better some more sg copies?

    cheers

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    Love the style but bummed about the pointless electronics. Still a positive sign for sure.

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    I find it encouraging that Epiphone is going back more and more to original specs (like correct 16th fret neck joint on the Casino, everything on the newest Sorento, etc.). Now they have to get the body shape and shape of the f-holes right on their 175 and I will be sold.....

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    And I think a big laminated not too expensive Epi archtop could be a good candidate to route in a P90 or CC pickup..... (I am very curious though about construction inside, especially if the heel block is solid wood or a big block of ply like I've seen in their Emperors.... I fear for the latter).

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    Egad, nooo. GAS......
    “When a wise man points at the moon the fool considers the finger.”

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    Some photos and specs of the Olympic model here: Epiphone Masterbilt Century Olympic Electric Guitar, Honeyburst

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    Quote Originally Posted by David B View Post
    Some photos and specs of the Olympic model here: Epiphone Masterbilt Century Olympic Electric Guitar, Honeyburst
    That link directs me to the homepage of zZounds and even when I search I don't find anything about the Century Olympic?

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    A bit off topic, but I stumbled upon this nice site about Epiphone archtops: | Acoustic American jazz guitars out of the Golden Era ? preserved in the Netherlands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Jay View Post
    That link directs me to the homepage of zZounds and even when I search I don't find anything about the Century Olympic?
    Looks like it's been taken down. From memory, the Olympic model has a laminated mahogany back and sides, 25.5" scale and is $599.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klatu View Post
    The video was informative, although the presenter suggests that the viewer refer to their website for further information, yet nothing is up yet concerning these new guitars. I was somewhat disappointed that the Epiphone representative didn't have the details about the woods used for the back and sides and failed to mention whether the top was solid pressed or carved.
    Well, I almost expect that anytime someone says "solid top" in an archtop, they are obfuscating, and deliberately not calling it a "carved top."
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    Quote Originally Posted by campusfive View Post
    Well, I almost expect that anytime someone says "solid top" in an archtop, they are obfuscating, and deliberately not calling it a "carved top."
    For sure, if the top is carved, these days, I expect they will trumpet that from the housetops. If they don't say "carved" I assume solid-formed. If they don't say "solid" I assume laminated, for which "select spruce" seems to be the favorite euphemism.
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    Masterbilt Century De Luxe Classic? "That'll do," I think.
    http://www.epiphone.com/MBCentury

    It calls for pragmatism - it's perhaps best restricted to certain applications - but I think I can work with it.

    I see an opportunity; time to ward off perfectionism.
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    'Solid top'...

    Recent video

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    solid spruce tops, laminated flame mable bodies, ebony fretboard and bone nut...

    cheers

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    Can't wait to try one. The price is low, so we shouldn't expect a high-grade instrument. Rather, it should be a good working musician's gigging guitar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammertone View Post
    They are a stylistic nod to the notion of an archtop guitar.
    They have pressed tops, like many old f-hole guitars made in the US as well as Germany.
    These are more like schlaggitarren, as opposed to archtop guitars.
    Nothing wrong with that.
    Like schlaggitarren, they may provide accessibility to a whole bunch of folks who might become more interested in archtop guitars as a result. One never knows.
    Here is a screen grab that suggests the level of "arch" to the top:
    Wie heisen Sie Schlaggitarren auf Englisch, bitte?

    I'm thinking Schlagzeuger ... or drummer .... and coming up with "beater guitar" ... LOL

    These look nice ... wonder if any of them will be in the 18 inch range?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluedawg View Post
    Wie heisen Sie Schlaggitarren auf Englisch, bitte?

    I'm thinking Schlagzeuger ... or drummer .... and coming up with "beater guitar" ... LOL

    These look nice ... wonder if any of them will be in the 18 inch range?
    Genau

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    Epiphone Masterbilt® De Luxe™ Classic Acoustic/Electric Guitar Specifications :
    Finish: Aged Gloss
    Hardware: Aged Nickel
    Top: Solid Spruce; Longitudinal Bracing
    Body: Laminated Flame Maple
    Body Dimensions:
    Lower Bout = 17"
    Upper Bout = 12.6"
    Waist = 10.25"
    Body Length = 21"

    Neck: 5-pc Laminated; Hard Maple/Mahogany
    Neck Profile: Rounded "C" shape
    Preamp: eSonic™ HD (High Definition)
    Controls: Master Volume & Master EQ



    cheers

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    Nice! I would still be tempted to slam a PU on it....

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    It's a good thing they are not available until August. That gives me some time to think up how I can explain to my wife that we really need another guitar.

    I have a 1951 Zenith already, so it's probably the 17" Deluxe for me. F holes or round hole? Natural or sunburst?

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    Regular tuning, strumming all the way - through an acoustic amp (pretty sure I could get away with flats).

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    Really sad to see the current Epiphone putting out this cheap asian stuff using the names of their classic 30s to 50s archtops... Kind of diminishes the standing of the vintage stuff. If I ever get an old Triumph I'll have to differentiate and make clear to people its not one of those cheap new ones!

    Makes me seriously consider getting an old Gibson L-7 instead.