View Poll Results: Fender PRRI '68 or PRRI '65

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  • Fender '68 Custom Princeton Reverb Reissue

    16 18.82%
  • Fender '65 Princeton Reverb Reissue

    43 50.59%
  • Save your money and buy an original Silverface Era Priceton

    19 22.35%
  • Save your money and buy a 1980's Fender Rivera era Princeton II

    8 9.41%
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    Thanks to you all. I am just confused by the options and appreciate your opinions.
    So let me "up the game" on this topic.

    Fender Limited Edition '65 Princeton Reverb 15W 1x12 Tube Guitar Combo Amp Bordeaux Reserve Speaker: 12 Jensen P12Q

    Fender Limited Edition '65 Princeton Reverb 15W 1x12 Tube Guitar Combo Amp Bordeaux Reserve | Guitar Center

    Fender 65 Princeton Reverb Navy Blues Limited Edition Amplifier Speaker: 12”, 8-ohm Celestion Alnico Blue speaker


    Over sometime now these amps have been recommended as a "go to" Jazz tube amp by many. I have the opportunity to purchase either one, with a 24 month 0% interest deal. That's like $42 a month for the '65 model. Given my financial situation that would work for me and put one of these amps in my hands in a week.

    The other option is to save my money, no fun, and purchase either a 1975 Princeton with JBL speaker
    https://www.gbase.com/gear/fender-princeton-reverb-j-and-l-1975

    or a 1979 Princeton with the push/pull additional for about $1200.
    https://www.gbase.com/gear/fender-princeton-reverb-n-o-s
    My questions;

    Why has Fender created two re-issue Verizon from 2 distinct time periods in the original evolution for the amp?

    Since both are availably, are they not competing against one another?

    The '65 is $100 more than the '68. What's the difference other in cost?

    Fender '68 Custom Princeton Reverb - 12W 1x10" Guitar Combo Amp

    Fender '68 Custom Princeton Reverb - 12W 1x10" Guitar Combo Amp | Sweetwater.com

    Fender '65 Princeton Reverb - 15W 1x10" Guitar Combo Amp

    Fender '65 Princeton Reverb - 15W 1x10" Guitar Combo Amp | Sweetwater.com
    Last edited by Wildcat; 05-27-2016 at 07:26 PM.

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    I bought a '68 Custom RI and almost immediately exchanged it for a '65 RI. The '68 has a different circuit and speaker from the 65 and from Princetons (and even most Fender amps) in general. For jazz I found the 68 to be way too boomy in the lower frequencies, which was virtually impossible to dial out. The different circuit and speaker has a sound that is aimed more toward the rock crowd as it sounds very good when cranked to the breakup point, beginning with the volume set from 5 on up, getting crunchier as the volume is increased. Although there are some on this forum who do prefer it over the 65 for jazz, this is my experience. I've read that its tone is very close to the Fender Bassman, which may be true, but I found that it has tonal characteristics more similar to a Marshall, most likely due to the stock Celestion speaker.

    The 65, when I first got it home and kicked the tires, so to speak, was rather the opposite form the 68. It had a pronounced trebly tone that was difficult to dial out. I say "had" because I replaced the preamp tube in V1 with an nos 5751 and then replaced the stock speaker with a Weber 10F150, both of which warmed it up considerably. Now it's probably very close to an original '65. I still roll the treble knob to 0, but that's just my preference---I like a dark tone. I'm very happy with this amp, and the modifications were approximately $145. Great jazz amp! Versatile enough for other styles as well.
    Last edited by jbucklin; 05-27-2016 at 12:27 PM.

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    The '68 is a nice amp in its own right but it is aimed more at dirty blues playin' which it kicks butt at! I found the reverb to be lacking compared to the '65 RI but the Tremolo is one of the best ever. I have the '65 Reissue LE which has the Alnico Jensen instead of the normal ceramic. It only took a couple of weeks of playing for the speaker to warm up on that one where my other amp with the ceramic Jensen took a year. In the end they both sound great! The alnico is a smoother transition in and out of overdriven tones which is very pleasant but the dirt happens sooner. The ceramic stays cleaner longer, but then falls over the cliff into a less pleasant, overdriven tone. Both speakers are great though but do require a break-in period.

    Original Silver Face would be awesome too, however, be prepared to spend a little extra with an amp guy to get it up to snuff and speakers on those can become dry rotted and need to be replaced. However, once sorted, the vintage amp may prove to be a little more robust than the new ones...a little!

    In my experience, the push pulls never served much purpose for me. They sound fine but its a superfluous feature for me.

    I have ZERO issues with recommending the '65 Reissue. It will bring THE sound!
    Last edited by Ken Olmstead; 05-27-2016 at 12:49 PM.

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    I have a student that has the '65 Princeton LE and it sounds incredible!

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    The '65 is a more accurate blackface amp, according to Fender the '68 "Fender went further by reducing the negative feedback for an amp that overdrives faster and has increased touch sensitivity. It houses a 10" Celestion speaker for a distinct rock 'n' roll vibe. Fender's '68 Custom Princeton Reverb gives you tons of vintage vibe with a hot-rodded punch!"

    Blackface amps have scooped
    mids compared to tweed, and also more headroom. The '65 Princeton can seem a bit bright, for Jazz I set bass & treble around 2 and am very happy. I have a '72 stock Princeton and the '65 Reissue with a Weber 10F150 and the '65 w/ the Weber is a bit fuller in the mids (probably the 50 watt Weber speaker rolling off some highs and filling out the mids). Of course a cheap graphic EQ can address the mids and roll off the extreme highs/lows and give you a really, really, really great jazz sound from a Princeton.

    Vintage amps can be a headache, and with Princetons I'd be concerned about prior owners cranking them to 10 and abusing the speaker and output transformer. A vintage Princeton will need the electrolytic capacitors replaced (if they haven't been already).

    If you want vintage then keep an eye on Craigslist and talk to an amp tech about how much it may cost to give a vintage Princeton a good go-through. I found my '72 a few months ago for $675 from someone who knew the amp had been modded and didn't want to deal with the hassle and expense of restoring the circuit (the amp appears to have original/correct speaker, tubes and transformers). I work on my own amps and took on the challenge, turns out whoever did the mods left the original parts in the amp and it was 5 minutes with a soldering iron to return to stock.

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    The circuit of the '68 differs only a couple of caps and resistors from the '65 ($2 worth in parts) and they even use the same circuit board, so a '68 can be turned into a '65 - and vice versa - for very little money. (Except for the speaker of course).

    But those minor changes in the circuit have a substantial influence on the sound and behaviour of the amp. I am tempted to say the '65 would be better suited for jazz, with more negative feedback to tame the gain and tighten up the bass, but I have never used either of them.

    Just saying that, if you are handy and know your way around in amps (or have acces to someone who does) you don't have to be too afraid to buy the 'wrong' reissue as they can be turned into eachother easily.


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    Tried both, went for '65 definititely. I should receive it next week. As explained in other thread the two '68 models I tried had a nasty buzz when playing a Bb on the low E string. I might have been unlucky but my prefered guitar shop says '68 have a lot of issue here in France. Don't know for you guys...

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    I liked the 68 more than the 65 personally, no idea why. But I'm not a fan of RI amps, would save the money and go vintage.

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    Thanks to you all. I am just confused by the options and appreciate your opinions.
    So let me "up the game" on this topic.


    Fender Limited Edition '65 Princeton Reverb 15W 1x12 Tube Guitar Combo Amp Bordeaux Reserve Speaker: 12 Jensen P12Q

    Fender Limited Edition '65 Princeton Reverb 15W 1x12 Tube Guitar Combo Amp Bordeaux Reserve | Guitar Center

    Fender 65 Princeton Reverb Navy Blues Limited Edition Amplifier Speaker: 12”, 8-ohm Celestion Alnico Blue speaker

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    Oooh, both look pretty sweet. Although for jazz speaker with less breakup might be better. Depends if you like alnico's compression or even will turn it up enough for that to matter.

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    Yeah, I agree with Max Twang. Look into a Celestion Alnico Gold. $175 for a 10" at Sweetwater. Best speaker ever by a long shot. Perfect for jazz. You won't believe your ears when it starts getting broken in, which starts after just a couple of weeks.

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    The plus with the limited editions is the 12" speaker upgrade.

    I am a Jensen Neo kind of guy, when they made them, and really don't know much about the 2 speakers with the limited editions. Maybe some knowledge of the Jensen P12Q, but not the 8-ohm Celestion Alnico Blue speaker for sure.

    The Fender Limited Edition '65 Princeton Reverb 15W 1x12 Tube Guitar Combo Amp Bordeaux Reserve is only $100 more than the '65 with the tolex and 12" upgrade.

    Might sound superficial, but I do like the Blue tolex.


    Quote Originally Posted by MaxTwang View Post
    Oooh, both look pretty sweet. Although for jazz speaker with less breakup might be better. Depends if you like alnico's compression or even will turn it up enough for that to matter.
    Fender '68 Custom Princeton Reverb Reissue or Fender '65 Princeton Reverb Reissue????-dscf8868_1-jpgFender '68 Custom Princeton Reverb Reissue or Fender '65 Princeton Reverb Reissue????-dscf8869-jpgFender '68 Custom Princeton Reverb Reissue or Fender '65 Princeton Reverb Reissue????-mg_6751-jpg
    Last edited by Wildcat; 05-28-2016 at 10:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxTwang View Post
    Oooh, both look pretty sweet. Although for jazz speaker with less breakup might be better. Depends if you like alnico's compression or even will turn it up enough for that to matter.
    Once again the 12" upgrade for both.
    Fender '68 Custom Princeton Reverb Reissue or Fender '65 Princeton Reverb Reissue????-fender-limited-edition-65-princeton-reverb-15w-1x12-tube-guitar-combo-amp-bordeaux-reserve-0-1-jpgFender '68 Custom Princeton Reverb Reissue or Fender '65 Princeton Reverb Reissue????-glxyiscbupshd0vefyoh-jpgFender '68 Custom Princeton Reverb Reissue or Fender '65 Princeton Reverb Reissue????-fender-limited-edition-65-princeton-reverb-15w-1x12-tube-guitar-combo-amp-bordeaux-reserve-0-0-jpg
    Last edited by Wildcat; 05-28-2016 at 10:19 AM.

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    Up for sale is a Brand New Fender '65 Princeton Reverb Navy Blues Limited Edition Combo Amplifier.

    Even amplifiers sometimes get the blues! This ’65 Princeton Reverb amp is covered in Navy Blue covering with the traditional Silver grille cloth for a distinctively understated look. Combine that with the classic chime of a 12” Celestion® Blue alnico speaker and you’ve got the perfect amp for your living room or studio!

    It has the vintage vibe that Fender® die-hards know and love, but the ’65 Princeton Reverb isn’t only for those who played them 30 or 40 years ago - it’s for anybody who demands top- notch tube tone, naturally dynamic clean and overdriven tones, and unmistakable long-spring Fender reverb and tube vibrato.

    Unique features to this amp include: Navy Blue covering, Blue amp jewel and a 12” 8-ohm Celestion Blue speaker for sparkling, articulate mids and growling alnico crunch. Also includes a “Limited Edition” FSR badge.
    Other Features include: Dual 6V6 output tubes, one 5AR4 rectifier tube, three 12AX7 preamp tubes, one 12AT7 tube, tube-driven Fender reverb, tube vibrato, two-button footswitch for reverb and vibrato on-off.
    Amplifier Type: Tube
    Speaker: 12”, 8-ohm Celestion Alnico Blue speaker
    Impendance: 8 Ohms
    Output Power: 15 watts
    Preamp Tubes: 3 x 12AX7, 1 x 12AT7
    Power Tubes: 2 x 6V6
    Rectifier: 5AR4 Rectifier Tube
    Inputs: 2 Inputs
    Controls: Volume, Treble, Bass, Reverb, Speed, Intensity
    Covering/Grille Cloth: Navy Blue vinyl covering and Silver grille cloth
    Height: 16" (40.6 cm)
    Width: 19.875" (50.5 cm)
    Depth: 9.5" (24.13 cm)
    Weight: 34 lbs. (12.7 kg)
    Cover: Amp Cover Included
    Unique FSR Features: Navy Blue vinyl covering Blue amp jewel, a 12” Celestion Blue speaker and a “Limited Edition” FSR badge.

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    That updated collaboration—the Fender Limited Edition Princeton 112 Bordeaux Reserve—ups the ante on the tone box that made its way in to the living rooms, studios and stages of Fender lovers. It incorporates one of the most popular Princeton mods—the inclusion of a larger, 12” Jensen P12Q speaker—allowing for a fuller frequency response, a perceived volume boost and clearer midrange. The exciting effort is an extension of Princeton legacy that, literally and figuratively, has been simply unheard of outside of the garages and tool benches of gearhounds and mod addicts.

    “We wanted to do something different for Fender fans that they haven’t seen or heard before,” said Rick Heins, Fender product development manager for amplifiers. With its stellar combination of new features, striking good looks and improved full-frequency response, the Limited Edition Princeton 112 Bordeaux Reserve delivers on that promise without sacrificing the signature sound of the amp prized and recognized for well more than a half-century.

    The relationship between classic Fender amps and Jensen speakers has long existed, and they’ve long been part of the recipe that results in those beloved tones. But true to its namesake, the switch from 10” to 12” speaker serves up a little something extra for tone chasers—crystal clear wine glass fidelity with plenty of low-end punch and attitude when cranked—a slight differentiation from the tonal quality of the famous Princeton.


    Features
    • Power: 15 watts (tube)
    • Tubes: 12AX7, 12AT7 (preamp); two 6V6 (power amp)
    • Single channel
    • Two inputs
    • Speaker: 12 Jensen P12Q
    • Controls: volume, 3-band EQ, reverb, speed, intensity
    • Long-spring Fender reverb and tube tremolo (œvibrato)
    • Impedance: 8 ohms
    • 1/4 in. output jack
    • Limited-edition wine red vinyl covering and wheat grille cloth
    • "Limited Edition" FSR badge
    • Fitted cover and two-button footswitch included
    • Cabinet material: birch/pine
    • Dimensions: 19.75 in. x 16 in. x 9.5 in.
    • Weight: 34 lbs.

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    The Limited Editions have the 12" upgrade at 15 watts and both weight 34 pounds.

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    The 65 reissue series are better sounding to me and talking to dealer I trust he said people testing the both series are saying the same thing. I would also lean more towards the Deluxe Reverb than the Princeton for Jazz. Of the 68 series the Deluxe Reverb is the best of that series.

    If you're patient and look around you can find real Silverface Fenders for a little more.

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    That blue Princeton is certainly striking and the Celestion Blue is a great speaker - it is the speaker associated with the iconic Vox sound. Crisp highs and full mids. It is also known for beautiful swirling sounds that cause out of body experiences.

    The Celestion Gold mentioned above is a recent attempt to make a 50 watt Blue (the Blue is rated at 15 wonderful watts).
    Last edited by MaxTwang; 05-28-2016 at 02:30 PM.

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    I could make do with either, but I'd be inclined to spend my money on a 70s Silverface Princeton Amp and a reverb pedal. A non-reverb Princeton is about $750 if you shop around. Then, grab a reverb pedal for $125-150. You are ahead of the game, have an amp that will not depreciate over time, and have a wonderful sounding rig.

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    Yeah, but the Celestion Gold is....GOLD!!! ;^)

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    Eminence 1028K.

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    Purple Princeton.

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    I'm a big fan of that Celestion Blue Alnico. It came mated with a Weber Blue in a deluxe style Headstrong...I'd recommend TAD Premium 7025's over stock 12AX7's if you prefer an upgraded tube...the audiophile in me found X7's noisy for my tastes... At any rate, great looking amp for anyone desiring something portable!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wildcat View Post
    The plus with the limited editions is the 12" speaker upgrade.

    I am a Jensen Neo kind of guy, when they made them, and really don't know much about the 2 speakers with the limited editions. Maybe some knowledge of the Jensen P12Q, but not the 8-ohm Celestion Alnico Blue speaker for sure.

    The Fender Limited Edition '65 Princeton Reverb 15W 1x12 Tube Guitar Combo Amp Bordeaux Reserve is only $100 more than the '65 with the tolex and 12" upgrade.

    Might sound superficial, but I do like the Blue tolex.




    Fender '68 Custom Princeton Reverb Reissue or Fender '65 Princeton Reverb Reissue????-dscf8868_1-jpgFender '68 Custom Princeton Reverb Reissue or Fender '65 Princeton Reverb Reissue????-dscf8869-jpgFender '68 Custom Princeton Reverb Reissue or Fender '65 Princeton Reverb Reissue????-mg_6751-jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop View Post
    I'm a big fan of that Celestion Blue Alnico. It came mated with a Weber Blue in a deluxe style Headstrong...I'd recommend TAD Premium 7025's over stock 12AX7's if you prefer an upgraded tube...the audiophile in me found X7's noisy for my tastes... At any rate, great looking amp for anyone desiring something portable!
    But it's not Purple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greentone View Post
    I could make do with either, but I'd be inclined to spend my money on a 70s Silverface Princeton Amp and a reverb pedal. A non-reverb Princeton is about $750 if you shop around. Then, grab a reverb pedal for $125-150. You are ahead of the game, have an amp that will not depreciate over time, and have a wonderful sounding rig.
    This.

    You will not loose money down the road if you buy a vintage Silverface Princeton. Prices are rising, especially on the better ones. Reverb models are priced about $500 - $1,000 higher!!

    Most vintage amps need a little maintenance/restoration, so be prepared. But in the end, it will last, sound great, and be trouble free with reasonable care. Toss in quality tubes, and you are set for a great sounding, reliable amp.

    As tempting as the limited edition PRRI models are, I recently decided to go vintage, and only considered a non-reverb Princeton. After scouring the market I found a nice used but not abused Silverface Princeton drip edge, advertised as a '69. After it arrived I checked the numbers and discovered it had tranny codes from '68 and chassis serial numbered as a '69, making it a bit more desirable to collectors. Good news when it comes time to sell way down the road.

    So there are more options to consider. New vs. Old; 1x10 vs. 1x12 Ltd. Ed., etc.

    Let us know what you decide. Happy amp hunting!

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    celestion alnico blue is a great speaker...two of them in an ac30 is classic sound...but it's a 15 watt speaker..which means its gonna get hairy, much faster than the celestion gold....the gold was made to emulate the tone of the blue but take 2-3x the power...so it remains cleaner longer..which i think is better for jazz oriented tones...a gold in a 15 watt amp is gonna deliver the true sound of the guitar and amp...not add it's own color/grind

    i love'm both...and celestion also have a newer creamback alnico..which does about 80-90 watts...and sounds terrific as well

    the op's blue princeton is nice, but for that $$$ you are approaching boutique quality amp builds...lots of great choices at that pricepoint..and remember this prineton is not ptp..its circuitboard...for that kinda scratch you could have a handwired amp


    cheers

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    The Celestion Gold is very, very close to the Blue - unless you have them side by side in identical rigs you probably won't notice a difference. The Blue will break up earlier but if you've heard a Vox AC-15 then you've heard how loud a Blue can get. Being a 50 watt speaker the Gold is a tad less delicate & detailed in the highs. If you're looking for really sweet highs at moderate volume then the highs in the Blue are ethereal.

    Here's a good comparison of the Blue vs. the alnico Silver (which is somewhat like a Greenback). The Blue is a really unique and special speaker.


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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77 View Post
    But it's not Purple.
    you lost me there

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    tone tubby- purple haze

    Fender '68 Custom Princeton Reverb Reissue or Fender '65 Princeton Reverb Reissue????-purple-haze-top-org3-jpg

    (blue) cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop View Post
    you lost me there
    I want the purple one

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77 View Post
    I want the purple one
    Somebody get the boy a purple Tone Tubby for cryin' out loud! :^\

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    I have firsthand experience playing a humbucker equipped archtop through a Celestion Blue, and it breaks up too early for me. Just sayin'.

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    my purple (last of the uk made) vox ac30 tbx..with celestion blues

    Fender '68 Custom Princeton Reverb Reissue or Fender '65 Princeton Reverb Reissue????-purple3-jpg


    sounds good with red guitars


    haha

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbucklin View Post
    I have firsthand experience playing a humbucker equipped archtop through a Celestion Blue, and it breaks up too early for me. Just sayin'.

    yeah 15 watt power rated speaker in a 15 watt amp doesn't leave much room to play around with..plus it's super efficient..so it gets loud quick...so 3 on your amp is loud, great and clean..but turning higher just adds hair and crunch....(which can be great!...just not typical jazz tone)

    classic vox ac30 has 2 alnico blues but wired in series to 16 ohms...so power is more negotiable

    cheers

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    Well folks this is getting very interesting and I appreciate it all!!!. Of coarse this is a "Life or Death Decision" for me. lol!!!

    It just that I am just tying wade my way through all of the choices we have today. Call me old school, but I missing the days limited selection. Like with tennis shoes growing up, All-Star Chuck Connor, PF Flyers, Puma.



    I am really leaning towards the Limited edition with then 12" speakers. So much I read indicates that many people in the past have converted the 12" speaker for the Princeton Reverb, but have never look back doing so. Point in case the Fender Guru website.

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    ok..so get the blue pr ..(you prefer blue tolex anyway)..if it breaks up too early (for you), you can always sell the celestion blue and replace with the celestion gold.. celestion blue speakers are always sought..easy to sell or trade..no lose situation..you could also stick a 12ay7 in first tube spot, to give you more vol control room..

    go for it


    cheers

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    Well, my final plea (since it IS a life-or-death situation! ;^)---You could save some $ by getting a stock '65---there's a demo model at GC here in Dallas for much less than a new one---get a Celestion Alnico Gold 10 for $175, and about $50 for a preamp tube replacement and I guarantee you will never look back. There is just nothing like the Alnico Gold for a jazz guitar player. But, those LEs are very sexy and seductive! Okay, I'm done with the arm-twisting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbucklin View Post
    Well, my final plea (since it IS a life-or-death situation! ;^)---You could save some $ by getting a stock '65---there's a demo model at GC here in Dallas for much less than a new one---get a Celestion Alnico Gold 10 for $175, and about $50 for a preamp tube replacement and I guarantee you will never look back. There is just nothing like the Alnico Gold for a jazz guitar player. But, those LEs are very sexy and seductive! Okay, I'm done with the arm-twisting.

    yeah man, but the tolex ain't blue!!...aesthetics are 9/10ths of the law!

    Fender '68 Custom Princeton Reverb Reissue or Fender '65 Princeton Reverb Reissue????-blue-room-picasso-1901-jpg

    haha

    cheers

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    Yes! And this will be Wildkat's fate if he is seduced by the blue siren:

    Fender '68 Custom Princeton Reverb Reissue or Fender '65 Princeton Reverb Reissue????-the_old_guitarist_by_pablo_picasso_osa2981361786189884-jpg

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    I want an amp that will have this effect.



    Last edited by Wildcat; 05-28-2016 at 06:53 PM.

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    haha...hai karate..that's a blast

    yeah ok then

    hes got celestion blue shorts on

    cheers

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    I'm a little bit lost here. Does anyone actually think that putting a single 15W Celestion Blue into a 22W amp is a good idea?

    If history has shown us anything it's that a Vox AC30 could be relied upon to blow up two 15W blues if the user isn't careful.

    Maybe you could get away with this sort of power mismatch in a Jazz-only application where you kept things clean, but a power mismatch like that is just asking for trouble.
    -- Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbucklin View Post
    Yes! And this will be Wildkat's fate if he is seduced by the blue siren:

    Fender '68 Custom Princeton Reverb Reissue or Fender '65 Princeton Reverb Reissue????-the_old_guitarist_by_pablo_picasso_osa2981361786189884-jpg

    more practice time!!

    hahaha

    cheers

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    Yeah, the babes won't know the difference between Blue and Gold---only scruffy old geezers like me and Neatomic!

    Really showing my age here: I remember those commercials when I was just a wee lad.

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    Be careful how you use it!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by neatomic View Post
    haha...hai karate..that's a blast

    yeah ok then

    hes got celestion blue shorts on

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbucklin View Post
    Yeah, the babes won't know the difference between Blue and Gold---only scruffy old geezers like me and Neatomic!

    Really showing my age here: I remember those commercials when I was just a wee lad.
    hey!! my grandpa told me about them

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by neatomic View Post
    more practice time!!

    hahaha

    cheers
    You are definitely a glass-is-half-full kind of guy! I like that. :^)

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    I didn't answer the poll because I think the poll needs another option -- buying something from third party boutique amp builder. In most cases those guys build accurate replicas of the old Fender amps at a price that doesn't involve a vintage premium.
    -- Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeBob View Post
    I'm a little bit lost here. Does anyone actually think that putting a single 15W Celestion Blue into a 22W amp is a good idea?

    If history has shown us anything it's that a Vox AC30 could be relied upon to blow up two 15W blues if the user isn't careful.

    Maybe you could get away with this sort of power mismatch in a Jazz-only application where you kept things clean, but a power mismatch like that is just asking for trouble.

    the deluxe puts out near 22 watts..the princeton is rated 15 watts..and yes, why i recommend celestion alnico gold...blue is pushing it...tho it will succeed..but with hair


    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeBob View Post
    I didn't answer the poll because I think the poll needs another option -- buying something from third party boutique amp builder. In most cases those guys build accurate replicas of the old Fender amps at a price that doesn't involve a vintage premium.

    said similar in post #26


    wildcat you stirred up some fun!

    haha

    luck

    cheers
    Last edited by neatomic; 05-28-2016 at 07:52 PM. Reason: sp-