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    Quote Originally Posted by DB's Jazz Guitar Blog
    Beautiful guitar for sure.
    Quote Originally Posted by DB's Jazz Guitar Blog


    I have had my Tal Farlow since 2005. Bought it from a pic at Murch music in Canada and had it shipped to the Netherlands. I did a video on it a few years later that you might enjoy. It must have been made way over 10 years ago ... I am not wearing glasses yet. At the time I did not have much experience with vintage archtops so my statement at the end that the guitar is "light and responsive" should be taken with a grain of salt. But amplified it is one heck of a guitar and even now - owning a genuine 1952 ES 350 and a 1947 ES 300 - I still love playing it!


    DB


    Thank you for sharing your video, DB! I do enjoy learning about these great instruments.




    Quote Originally Posted by vinnyv1k
    Roli, we all rejoice and welcome you with open arms to TOG.
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    A VERY fine specimen indeed. Good thing happen to good people.
    One more big Congrats !
    Thank you, Vinny. You are a true gentleman!

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    Can any member please confirm which Gibson plant these were made in -- the serial number identifies as Bozeman Montana Plant ( round hole acoustic plant ??? ) whereas stickers & passport say Custom Shop , Kalamazoo ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demall
    Can any member please confirm which Gibson plant these were made in -- the serial number identifies as Bozeman Montana Plant ( round hole acoustic plant ??? ) whereas stickers & passport say Custom Shop , Kalamazoo ???
    As far as I know, the original ones from 1962-69 were made in Kalamazoo, the reissue since 1993 from Nashville Custom Plant
    I also wonder why the guitardaterproject site claims these were made in the Bozeman plant

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    Quote Originally Posted by rolijen
    Thank you, Vinny. You are a true gentleman![/FONT]
    There is NO DOUBT about that.
    JD

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    Bro I know you only want 1 more guitar but need 2. L5 & TF

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinlander
    As far as I know, the original ones from 1962-69 were made in Kalamazoo, the reissue since 1993 from Nashville Custom Plant&lt;br&gt;<br>
    I also wonder why the guitardaterproject site claims these were made in the Bozeman plant
    &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks Vinlander - yes 1993 on Nashville but the mystery continues as I have seen inside several over the years where Gibson serial number coding indicates Bozeman ! As these are pressed ply bodied guitars could the bodies have been formed at Bozeman then sent to Nashville for Custom Shop to finish ?<br>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demall
    <br><br>Thanks Vinlander - yes 1993 on Nashville but the mystery continues as I have seen inside several over the years where Gibson serial number coding indicates Bozeman ! As these are pressed ply bodied guitars could the bodies have been formed at Bozeman then sent to Nashville for Custom Shop to finish ?<br>
    Do all of those results come from the The Guitar Dater Project? If so, I would be very skeptical. Do you have an example of a number?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinnyv1k
    Bro I know you only want 1 more guitar but need 2. L5 & TF
    You are right, I know it.
    Im just trying to be good!
    It aint workin...
    JD

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    Perhaps one needs an L5 and a Tal. But during the times of COVID? It’s not happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
    Perhaps one needs an L5 and a Tal. But during the times of COVID? It’s not happening.
    COVID is a reminder that life is short. Get your L5 AND Tal while you have time. Tomorrow might not come.

    Carpe Guitarem.

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    But my retired budget won’t handle it. Good for those who can afford it during COVID times. So many people are laid off and their jobs aren’t coming back.

    The times dictate when and what time we purchase. That’s what I’m truly saying. Some can afford thousands for guitars despite the times, well good for you. It’s simply not a realistic acquisition in these times for so many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max405
    You are right, I know it.
    Im just trying to be good!
    It aint workin...
    JD
    Just tell Elaine the devil made you do it and put a extra $20 in the offering plate for your sins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
    But my retired budget won’t handle it. Good for those who can afford it during COVID times. So many people are laid off and their jobs aren’t coming back.

    The times dictate when and what time we purchase. That’s what I’m truly saying. Some can afford thousands for guitars despite the times, well good for you. It’s simply not a realistic acquisition in these times for so many.
    You are of course, totally right. I was just injecting a little levity into the conversation. I'm hurting too and just sold a very much treasured guitar to help pay off some very steep bills and will likely sell another "keeper" pretty soon for the same reason.

    I hear you.

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    Hang in there, everybody. It's the dreams that keep us rolling. This whole site is a go-to happy pill and this thread... man oh man, someday when a Tal can be swung, it shall be swungeth!

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    On the TF, is there any reason to prefer a recent Crimson Shop version over one from the '90's. or vice versa?

    Thanks in advance. I never really considered one of these before, but it checks a lot of boxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluejaybill
    On the TF, is there any reason to prefer a recent Crimson Shop version over one from the '90's. or vice versa? Thanks in advance. I never really considered one of these before, but it checks a lot of boxes.
    No difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluejaybill
    On the TF, is there any reason to prefer a recent Crimson Shop version over one from the '90's. or vice versa?

    Thanks in advance. I never really considered one of these before, but it checks a lot of boxes.
    I’m with you. At first I wasn’t aware of the Tal Farlow. Then, when I first saw one I was put off by that loopy loop. I wrote the model off.

    Then I read a few posts in this forum and learned a bit about the TF and how under appreciated it is by folks how don’t know any better. I began to want, no, NEED one. Best guitar decision ever.

    Mine is an amazing playing and beautiful sounding guitar every bit as well made as my L-5. What a steal the Tals are. I kick myself for being closed minded for so long.

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    First, a confession. I have read only a few of the posts here. But the OP wanted stories, and here's mine: For the past 27 years, I've been shuttling between the town and country homes. Halfway, in the town of Hämeenlinna (birthplace of composer Jean Sibelius) there used to be a well-stocked music store. The guys running it, a guitarist and a bassist, had been playing professionally in dance bands for decades. I regularly stopped by. One fine day, about 15 years ago, the guitarist showed me a TF that had come up for sale. I knew nothing about Tal Farlow the guitarist, and the instrument looked strange. While I loved the touch and feel, I was put off by the inverted fretboard inlays and the faux scroll that looked, well, faux.The asking price wasn't excessive and I could have afforded it. Not knowing what I was holding, I passed. Guess how many times I've regretted this.

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    Just saw this Tal Farlow on reverb. Stated condition is fair. Looks like it fell over and caused stress cracks on the headstock backplate and neck joint at the cutaway. Viceroy Brown. I don’t know enough about touching up the lacquer in those spots, but the seller is very upfront and provided plenty of close up photos. And is accepting offers. Might be an opportunity for someone. Gibson 1998 Custom Shop Tal Farlow
    Gibson 1998 Custom Shop Tal Farlow | Reverb&#39;s Garage Sale | Reverb

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    This is in Reverb’s store for things they now own due to damage claims against their shipping insurance. Unfortunately, most things they have listed there, despite being damaged, are priced at full retail price for a similar item in very good to excellent condition. They take offers, but don’t appear to accept any, at least not any reasonable ones.

    This Tal Farlow is priced at what you should be able to find one that doesn’t have any damage. There is a wine red one for $3500 taking offers right now and it doesn’t have any issues according to the seller. I bet it could be had for the same price or better and would sell again easier than one with a headstock/neck crack.

    There is also a Marshall Randy Rhoads amp priced above what many functioning examples of the same model have sold for on Reverb. It might have a really simple fix or it might need major work.

    I wouldn’t touch this stuff.

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    Headstock breaks , fractures etc. have a significant impact on resale value, and that needs to be considered when buying something like this. Unless of course, if it’s a very rare vintage guitar from a well known maker - and even then it would have to be discounted accordingly.

    As Chuck stated , the asking price is what a used “ unbroken” headstock guitar is worth in “very good “ condition.
    Last edited by QAman; 10-03-2020 at 02:23 PM.

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    Retrofret in Brooklyn has it now. Great shop:

    RetroFret Vintage Guitars

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    hey guys, the reverb garage shop will take $2100 and free ship for this 98 Tal with the hairline crack.
    wgat do you guys think???
    it’s really hard to tell from the pics and he’s not giving much detail. It’s weird how the crack line follows the Chevron.

    Any thoughts?
    Id love to snag it as a beater workhorse, but do t want to get into repair nightmares ;(

    Quote Originally Posted by ThatRhythmMan
    This is in Reverb’s store for things they now own due to damage claims against their shipping insurance. Unfortunately, most things they have listed there, despite being damaged, are priced at full retail price for a similar item in very good to excellent condition. They take offers, but don’t appear to accept any, at least not any reasonable ones.

    This Tal Farlow is priced at what you should be able to find one that doesn’t have any damage. There is a wine red one for $3500 taking offers right now and it doesn’t have any issues according to the seller. I bet it could be had for the same price or better and would sell again easier than one with a headstock/neck crack.

    There is also a Marshall Randy Rhoads amp priced above what many functioning examples of the same model have sold for on Reverb. It might have a really simple fix or it might need major work.

    I wouldn’t touch this stuff.

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    question for owners of the tal farlow. is the scroll just painted on or is it actually a piece of inlaid binding? i always assumed it was real binding but looking closely at different models on google, it looked like there were some inconsistencies and now I'm not so sure if it isn't just painted on. I'd love to know

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    A strip of binding is Inlaid to form the scroll.
    Gibson Tal Farlow Appreciation Thread-a8d3feca-eabe-4ad8-b677-b00cb0481995-jpg
    Last edited by rolijen; 11-15-2020 at 09:58 AM. Reason: Photo added

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    Gibson Tal Farlow Appreciation Thread-ebc5c54c-0d07-42d9-a853-445ed1e8a92b-jpg

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    Boing..
    Still the most beautiful guitar ever Vin.
    Love it.
    JD

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    Funny thing is Tal’s main player, up till maybe 96/7 or so did not have a scroll, it had a circle with the pickup switch where the scroll is. Tal used the bridge pup for his harmonic lines, that switch buried under the pickguard was a non starter for him.
    i suppose tomorrow I will post a pic of that, along with a TF surprise I got yesterday! Hmmmm?


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    [QUOTE=vinnyv1k;1075569]Gibson Tal Farlow Appreciation Thread-ebc5c54c-0d07-42d9-a853-445ed1e8a92b-jpg

    i own a twin of Vinny's TF, it is a Crimson Custom shop model 2013, acquired new , I px'd my Ibanez GB100
    for it, The TF is on par with the best, it's tone and playability commensurate with an L5, our friend Dutchbopper
    has made very complimentary comments on his own. The scroll btw is an extension of the binding and not painted on.
    Not wishing to appear boastful, but I have three other Gibsons, and a fabulous Campellone, needless to say ,all are
    keepers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzkritter View Post
    Funny thing is Tal’s main player, up till maybe 96/7 or so did not have a scroll, it had a circle with the pickup switch where the scroll is. Tal used the bridge pup for his harmonic lines, that switch buried under the pickguard was a non starter for him.
    i suppose tomorrow I will post a pic of that, along with a TF surprise I got yesterday! Hmmmm?


    Gibson Tal Farlow Appreciation Thread-17799131_10155202943307002_8520645792991476720_n-jpg

    That was a prototype built for Tal that he used almost exclusively for the rest of his career. It was sold by Rudy's a couple of years ago together with the rest of Tal's collection. It's now with a dealer in Paris.

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    Tal rejected the 1st prototype from Gibson. The 2nd one made for him was approved by Tal and used till the early 70’s when it was stolen at a airport. He went back to his prototype till Gibson started making them again in the 90’s. Henry J was good about sending him a new TF after that. They are great guitars. Thank you Tal !

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    cheers

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    Great pic !

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    Well about that Reverb listing..... It’s here now, and it was a very good deal. The pictures of the neck damage are far far worse on Reverb than reality. Neck is true, no twisting, rod works, I buffed out the bridge scuffs. I’ll have my luthier go over of course, but it plays and sounds like it should. Best of all it’s that neat more yellow than brown color that Vinnyv1k’s avatar is. Pic below but they’re a bit browner than reality. So I happily spent Sunday cleaning and polishing, restringing it while watching the Giants actually win a game. Then later in the day we get a call... daughters engaged. Wild Sunday!

    Also below is a pic of my L5. I included it cause the picture of Tal and I was taken at a lesson when it had just arrived (Dec1989). Can you believe how beautiful the spruce is now compared to that paper white new guitar? The pic really shows Tal’s hand size compared to mine). Sadly almost all my lesson tapes, pictures, neat stuff all was destroyed by Hurricane Sandy. I’m trying to find what survived and will post when I do.

    If he were with us you know he would be so warmed by this thread. Wonderfully humble man.

    dave

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    Oops forgot to add.... that D’Armond pickup right behind the neck pickup. It was wired to a stereo out jack, and went to a Boss octave divider. Most of Tal’s gigs then were with his bass player Gary Mazzaroppi (or Jack Six) and this let him play a bass line while the bassist soloed.

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    Wow, the Tal looks really good.
    I wanted to buy that Guitar. The deal of the Century. I am glad a fellow forum member got it. Especially some one who knew Tal himself and one who takes great care of his stuff.
    The Tal looks Beautiful. Enjoy it.
    Joe D.

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    Stunning Dave!! That's the color we all want. Pretty flame as well. See you already swapped the bridge out Might try that as well.
    That guitar couldnt have gone to a better home.
    That L5 is not bad either!

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    Question : Who played false harmonics before Tal Farlow ? Or was Tal the 1st and inventor ?
    Lenny Breau mastered it as does Doyle Dykes presently but did Tal start it ?

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    Wow really good question. Tal was doing that pretty early on. But i cant think of anyone else late 40’s doing it I could be wrong, gonna do some research for sure.
    Lenny spent a lot of time at Tal’s house. (So did Stan Getz BTW.). IIRC Lenny had been in a dark place and was trying to get his act together...fishing off the dock behind the house. Overall its sad story, no sense repeating with both gone.

    Before my wrist injury i had that down pretty well. He showed me the trick he used, which was to treat the area of strings from the neck end to the back of the neck pup like its own little fingerboard using the neck, pup screws, and pup end as markers. It’s actually pretty easy once you get the hang of it as youre fretting with your left hand and then you are syncing the movements of your right hand in the same pattern. If that makes sense)? Of course it requires moving the pick from thumb/index to thumb/middle and the index becomes the harmonic ‘producer’.
    Also, he switched to the bridge pickup. For what ever reason it produces a clearer harmonic than the neck pup. Hence he liked the “second prototype” compared to the true TF model cause the switch was easier to grab. He was used to the rotary switch on the 350.
    This is fun; the more I think about this stuff the more is coming back. I mean, 30 years ago. Hard to believe.
    The Lady Adams is driving me to Johns Hopkins this am, all pleasant thoughts accepted

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    I recorded this vid today, just for this thread. It's just some blowing but this is pretty much what my Tal sounds like through my Polytone. Personally, I would not know how to improve on this sound if you are into Tal's vibe.

    The ending came kind of unexpected, I had not rehearsed it.

    DB


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    Gibson Tal Farlow Appreciation Thread-2-jpgGibson Tal Farlow Appreciation Thread-1-jpg

    The lighting in my vid was such that the flames hardly showed. So here's two pics of it that do.

    DB

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    That's definitely the sound. Who wouldn't love to sound and play like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinnyv1k View Post
    Question : Who played false harmonics before Tal Farlow ? Or was Tal the 1st and inventor ?
    Lenny Breau mastered it as does Doyle Dykes presently but did Tal start it ?
    Tal Farlow may have been the first to use them extensively in jazz, but passages of artificial harmonics were already used in pieces by classical guitarists in the 19th century, e.g. Tarrega.

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    Gorgeous TF and playing Dick ! We both have a big love for Tal Farlow.
    Both the man and the guitar.

    Thank you Dave for your Tal stories. My big regret is never meeting the man or seeing him play live.

    Johnny Smith said Tal was the nicest person he ever knew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinnyv1k View Post
    Gorgeous TF and playing Dick ! We both have a big love for Tal Farlow. Both the man and the guitar.
    Sure thing Vinny. Our Tals too are very similar!

    DB

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    Note on Tal’s prototype is came with gold hardware. After that Gibson went to nickel. My guess is that Gibson realized gold would hurt L5CES sales too much.

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    Beautiful Gibson TF guitar, beautiful playing. Wish I was that far along with my playing.

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    Hi Vinny.... JS was right. Tal was an extraordinary person. Warm, humble and self effacing. We all know he was a sign painter. Can you imagine he was going up and down 52nd street doing signs for Bird, Miles, Teagarden. And he was headlining in one of the clubs!

    Thank you all for your PM comments. I’m reluctant to boast this stuff, but I realize it should be passed on. (Lol before I do.) Thinking of writing something up on how I was taught chord melody by him, it’s a different approach than what I see. Promise on the other side of the health issues i will post some playing.

    d

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    Dave......I will pray for your health. God bless Sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinnyv1k View Post
    Gorgeous TF and playing Dick ! We both have a big love for Tal Farlow.
    Both the man and the guitar.

    Thank you Dave for your Tal stories. My big regret is never meeting the man or seeing him play live.

    Johnny Smith said Tal was the nicest person he ever knew.
    I got to see Tal perform in London in the late eighties and used a Walter Woods amp and sounded GREAT!!!