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  1. #126

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    I like it !
    its unique.....

    what at is the scale length ?

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  3. #127

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    It looks like it started out as a non cutaway.

    Back in the 70's there was an article on how to do this.

    Also looks like it was stripped and refinished. The finish and the cutaway was not very well done. It could have been in bad shape before the modifications.

  4. #128

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    ?Its not the first time I've seen a one off custom order come out of Gibson, sort of ES175 body with an L5 neck and TP, its kind of funky cool... Nice score...

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  5. #129

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    scale is 25.50"

  6. #130

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    From my POV, you bought an L-5C/CES neck and tailpiece, a Benedetto/P-90 pickup, a wiring loom and a bridge, some straplocks and used Rotomatics, all conveniently packaged into a plywood box that allows you to demonstrate their functionality. Sell the parts as a group and throw in the plywood box for free.

    Definitely worth 1600 euros to the person who wants to restore an old L-5C/CES and needs a tailpiece and neck.

    Or just play the crap out of it.

  7. #131

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    Dear Hammertone
    Why do you think the violin maker would have bought an L5 handle, an L5 tailpiece, a Benedictine pickup, all very expensive, to assemble a guitar on a poor body? Surely it is not well finished, but the body is of a Gibson ES-125, the same size, to an original ES-125 40s of my property. It is different only in the thickness of the fir-tree! (5mm-L5 and 3mm the Gibson es-125). Maybe it's your envy!

  8. #132

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dariocing
    Dear Hammertone
    Why do you think the violin maker would have bought an L5 handle, an L5 tailpiece, a Benedictine pickup, all very expensive, to assemble a guitar on a poor body? Surely it is not well finished, but the body is of a Gibson ES-125, the same size, to an original ES-125 40s of my property. It is different only in the thickness of the fir-tree! (5mm-L5 and 3mm the Gibson es-125). Maybe it's your envy!
    I wouldn’t assume anything on that guitar. Not the authenticity of the label. Not that those components were bought new. Not the provenance of the donor body. It is completely posible that it was cobbled together by some hobbyist from the remains of wrecked guitars. As you point out, the finish isn’t terribly impressive.

    But none of that really matters to your question. Even if it was all new Gibson stock, it is still a Frankenstein of little value to a collector or Gibson fanboy. It’s value is as a player only.

    That could be huge value to you if it plays great. But given the current market, quirky used arch top guitars with no collectors value or brand caché may or may not be worth €1600. I think at that price a seller would be quite satisfied with the sale.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dariocing
    Dear Hammertone
    Why do you think the violin maker would have bought an L5 handle, an L5 tailpiece, a Benedictine pickup, all very expensive, to assemble a guitar on a poor body?...
    Because the violin maker can. Because there is one born every minute: someone who wants what Gibson never made but oughta, in his point of view.

    The value to you is what you paid for it at that auction. The value to the outside world is exactly as Hammertone sez: a box of old Gibson parts.

    As the resident JGF cheapskate, I'd put a value of $300 on it. The tailpiece is worth something to me; the rest of it, not so much.

    Technically, that mashup of Gibson parts is considered a counterfeit Gibson. Please do not sell it on as a real Gibson because that could get you into a lot of trouble.

  10. #134

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwocky
    That was what she said...
    An L5 tailpiece is worth about $300. Those strippers may ask $895 for them each but hope runs eternal; as the Greatest of All Time, Mo Ali said, I ain't got no quarrel with them VCs...venture capitalists. I paid $125 for mine with worn-off goldplating-yes, it is genuine-and that is about all it is worth...to me.
    Oh well, nice work if you can get it.
    I must congratulate you on the deal you got. I've done much better with the tailpieces I've sold in the past couple of years. They all went to folks who are restoring old guitars - L-5, ES-5, L-7, ES-175 and more. I still have a few old and NOS Gibson, Bigsby and Gertsch tailpieces, a bunch of ABM Guild, Hofner, Hoyer and Roger tailpieces, and a large pile of ABM 1251, 1266 and 1281 tailpieces. Even a few East German ones. And a Waverly or two. At least they all don't take up too much room.

  11. #135

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    Doing a search on the web, I discovered that it is a guitar assembled with the body of a Gibson ES-125C '60s,neck and tailpiece Gibson L5 ,pickup Benedetto. It works great!
    Last edited by Dariocing; 02-09-2019 at 07:45 PM.

  12. #136

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    Not sure if the Seller is a member of this forum or not. Just pulled the trigger on a near mint 2002 L5 with incredible flame. One owner instrument that looks to be in terrific shape. If you claim to play jazz guitar, I think you have to own one of these some time in your life. More of my pics next week when she arrives. Attached pictures are from Seller's Reverb.com ad.

    Cincy
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  13. #137

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    Oh man, a blonde. Oo la la. Looks amazing and you can’t beat an L5. Congrats and enjoy!


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    Goodness gracious - that is one gorgeous Gibson L-5!

    And that is one of the most incredible flamed backs I have ever seen!!

    That's a guitar you could play all day long or just sit there and look at all day long.

    Lucky you!

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    I would love to own one, but I would argue that most people would barely consider my playing to be jazz!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cincy2
    If you claim to play jazz guitar, I think you have to own one of these some time in your life.
    Well I've owned two in my lifetime, so I guess I play jazz guitar doubly!

    Seriously, that is a special nice specimen!

  17. #141

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    DS71 is right, "Man, that's hot." What a beauty. And, for my money, it doesn't get better than a blonde L-5 CES.

    The Venerable Gibson L-5-wes-blonde-l5-jpg

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    !!!!!! Will arrive on Wednesday next week.

    Cincy
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    Cincy2, that's a beauty! You're going to love it! Congrats. Also, I've always wanted to ask you, does your moniker 'Cincy2' have anything to do with Cincinnati? Just curious. I've known a boatload of jazz players from around those parts.

  20. #144

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    Welcome to the L5 family. We all feel like we "married up" when we got these amazing guitars.
    The Venerable Gibson L-5-l5-introduction-3-jpg

  21. #145

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    Between that one and Lawson's, 2 of the nicest newer L5's I've ever seen.
    Congrats in advance..

  22. #146

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    I played a friend's 2013 L5 CES crimson L5 a few weeks back and under a certain light I noticed faint lacquer cracking around the pointed part of the stinger at the back of the headstock.

    Is this normal?
    Is the stinger a veneer that is painted?

    BTW...the guitar seemed beautifully made and played/sounded wonderful.

  23. #147

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    I left a Johnny A too near a window for too long a few hot summers ago and the lacquer started to bubble up around the stinger and some of it peeled off. I haven't figured out if the stinger is an actual thing or just black paint. If it's a thing, it's very thin.

    Danny W.

  24. #148

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    I am having exactly that problem repaired as we speak. Addam Stark, one of the best Nitro specialists in the nation is doing the work and tells me that shrinkage causes the problem. It is an easy fix.

  25. #149

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    It is a laminate that has a rounded tip but Gibson paints over it to make it a sharp point. Many lacquer check in that area because of the wood differences and as stated shrinkage. Most of the time it is just checking.

  26. #150

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    My understanding is that factory stingers are finish-only, but that some repairmen will finish over a headstock break with a stinger if they can't make it invisible. Not saying that's the case at all here.