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    Cool, Mike! Looks like a neat instrument in the making.

    Sorry to hear of your Mother's travails - best wishes to her and the family.

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    Mike you have inspired me. I had originally contacted Yunzhi about building a guitar and they seem very nice, but I was getting very confused. I contacted Ms Lora at Yolanda and I'm in the process of finalizing the specs on my order. The wait is going to KILL me!

    Thanks for this thread and best wishes to your mom.

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    DJ, if I may be so presumptuous to call you DJ, what are you having Mr Wu build you ?? Even if you can share a link to the item, post it here or start your own build thread. It's a real kick in the ass doing this, I swear I go to the bathroom twice a night (old guy) and I get my iPad out of the nightstand drawer looking for emails. LOL !!!!

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    Of course you can call me DJ! My name is Don Jelley. I know that I want a 17" solid carved spruce top, 3" solid maple rims and solid carved maple back. Almost everything else is negotiable. I have an Eastman AR910 LTD and I'm thinking this guitar will be like that.

    I'd really like him to just clone an L5 WesMo, but I don't know if they can do that. Obviously without the Gibson logo and with a different tail piece.

    Still going back and forth. Ms. Lora is great! I understand what you mean about the emails - because they are on the other side of the planet, you have to wait until morning.

    As of now my plan is to order in a couple of weeks when I have all of the funds and I'll probably start a thread or post here when I get the first photos back.

    How would you rate the build quality compared to Eastman?

    Also - I know there are concerns with the electronics on Yunzhi's. Should I have them include the pickup and wiring, or just have it done locally when I receive my guitar?

    Thanks!
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    Well you already have a 910, nice choice. You see the last time I had Mr Wu build me something was when he was with Yunzhi, that was 6 years ago now. He's come a long way since then. So are you saying you need a parallel braced single pickup set into the top L5 type guitar ?? Mr Wu can build that, cut you a Gibson esque shaped headstock, Mrs Wu can do a very nice torch inlay on the headstock (I think my Campellone copy headstock is VERY influenced by Gibson) and have him put the pickup and wiring in. It helps them setup the guitar to do the electronics.

    I don;t think you need to send them the whole sum at once, make sure you talk to Ms. Lora about that part soon. I know on my first guitar I put down half and then paid the rest off in chunks, the process takes about 3 months. I hear Mr Wu is very busy so it may take 3-4 months these but compared to say Heritage or custom luthiers Mr. Wu is remarkably faster. So half down now, being you have a 910 already specify you want very pretty woods and Mr Wu can do some searching for the best and Lora will send you photos of the different plates he suggests, then give you a quote.
    Say you go really nuts on the wood and drop money on new wiring and a top shelf PAF once you get it, and the tailpiece of your choice AND a damn good setup, you're gonna come under in around 2k... Not bad huh....

    So get in touch with Ms Lora, send her photos, or a link to an ad but LOTS of pictures help translate to her what you want. They don't have access to the kind of gear Americans and Europeans have so you have to really very carefully spell it out, but it's worth the trouble. She will ask more questions to be sure, damn sure and then once you have it all spelled out she will translate that to Mr Wu, he will give you a price quote including EMS shipping and a case and then she can send you an invoice for the start of the project. I used PayPal to pay for it. Worked as easily now as it did 6 years ago.

    Good luck...
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    it's 3 am. A very momentous day in other areas of my life, I have progress shots also.
    I love the way it is coming together, the "Special" emblem is quite nice.





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    i like the more natural outside lighting. I was sent 24 photos - you get a rough idea of the progress. Having seen the changes in another recent buyer's project photos I would guess this has had it color applied, perhaps next is the lacquer, a bit of a dry and then buff out. Also Mrs. Wu has to inlay the "Special" emblem seen in another shot. I remember seeing little oddities on the fingerboard and finish of my original buy from Lora, a YZ23 Pisano copy - schmootz as I call it, I see a bit here and there on this one too. It'll all get cleaned up.
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    A few more photos, I get confused which have not been posted. You should have seen me at 4am doing this. Lol !!

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    Coming along nicely! Bob

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    Mike,They keep getting better and better. What I mean by that is your choices in design as well as Mr Wu's and Ms Lora's abilities to turn your ideas into a guitar with more quality than cost warrants. You're going to love this one!

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    Absolutely stunning !
    Each and every new "Mr Wu's guitars" thread makes me think about getting one in the future !
    Mike, for sure your project doesn't make exception ! This is going to be a good and nice guitar !

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    Thanks fellas, I can not tell you how excited I am.
    I looked at my iPad real early Wednesday morning and there was the
    update shots. I had a hard time going back to sleep. You all hit the nail on the head, Lora and Mr Wu just keep doing the best work. They have come a very long way in the 6 years since I ordered my first Lora special.

    Later in the day my Uncle in Chicago called me asking if I wanted to take over his condo my folks have lived in the last 17 years. My cost would be the monthly utilities, phone, cable bill and the maid... No brainer there. So it was a doubly momentous day. It's all ground floor, no stairs, fully furnished, top flight in every aspect. Grocery store, drug store, liquor store 2 1/2 blocks away. And my Mom a 5 minute walk and 15 minute bus ride from there. Fellas, I'm going home.

    (Shaking my head what a great day Wednesday was)
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    That looks like it will be a lovely instrument. I get that the guitar will be a copy of a Campellone, but the body shape is still the standard Eastman/Yunzhi/Wu shape, and the neck is still the standard Eastman/Yunzhi/Wu three-piece laminate as opposed to Mark's standard three-piece with contrasting center strip. Is the any reason in particular why you didn't go for the Campellone body shape or neck construction?

    Congrats on your imminent move to Chicago. You can hang out with some of the Chicago-based crew. Will you change your handle to BigMikeinIL?
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    Ms Lora/Mr Wu Special Project-qq-22270-2925520160113111948-jpgHammertone,

    Yes the body shape looks a lot like the Eastman/Yunzhi/Wu profile, but doesn't it match the Campellone profile ??

    As for my handle, heck I haven't even thought about that. Should I be ChicagoMike, West Side Mike, Killer Mike, Mike The Mad Baker, Lake Street Mike ??

    Jeez, it'll be great being able to walk places, take the Elevated into the City, hang out with cousins that can take me shopping in some of the great italian owned grocery and specialty stores in River Forest and Melrose Park and then teach them some cooking tricks in exchange. See my Mom, I haven't been in downtown Chicago in 15 years. I'm really kind of stuck out here where I am now, the place I live in needs lots of repairs that I have tolerated. Not any more.

    Ya know I was looking at these two photos and the best description I can come up with is sort of sophomoric: the shape of the cutaway on the Eastman/Yunzhi/Wu cutaway is more of a C cup, whereas the Campellone is a D cup... (oooooohhhhhh !!!!)


    Big

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMikeinNJ
    Hammertone, Yes the body shape looks a lot like the Eastman/Yunzhi/Wu profile, but doesn't it match the Campellone profile ??
    Campellone's 17" body and f-hole pattern is modelled VERY closely on Gibson's post war L-5C and L-7C - He refers to it as "based on long-standing designs," and "inspired by the great orchestra-style instruments."

    The Eastman pattern is different, probably based on the Benedetto book - different shape, different f-holes, and so forth - it's a Wu with some of the specific cosmetic features of a Campellone. And it looks great!

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    Hammertone,

    You're right in that it is the Wu body shape and F hole patterns (Benedetto) with a 3 equal sized piece neck (again Wu). I didn't ask for 3 or 5 ply neck, I asked that Mr Wu hunt down the very best woods for the whole guitar and I left the rest to him. So a guy like me with VERY funky eye sight will have a Campy copy that "looks" like a Special, probably sound pretty damn nice too when it's all done. It's that simple.

    Mike

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    That guitar looks beautiful Mike. Kind of a sister to mine! I pretty much spec'd mine like a Peerless Imperial though. I got a set of "Doug's Plugs" for the f holes for when I turn it up. They really work & I don't hear any tone difference but much less feedback. I'm really happy with that guitar. Looking forward to seeing your finished pics.

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    i like the more natural outside like getting. I was sent 24 photos

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    I'm in the midst of a project with them too. It's a Super 400 inspired guitar, but he made it with 22 frets instead of 20. Not originally my intention, but OK since I don't need it to be a 100% copy of a Gibson. The main features will be very Gibson like, headstock shape etc, but of course the binding and other details are a little different. Could never afford a 10K Super 400 so this is the next best thing.

    Nice guitar BTW. I have had 2 other guitars and have been happy with them. Always needed some tweaking after arival, but that's part of the fun for me. Great option for the starving musician!

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    abelljo,

    I'm very excited for you.

    You know
    for years I have been telling the Lora Story, and yeah part of the process involves taking a remarkably affordable and beautiful carved guitar to your tech for some setup and installation of your own electronics to really make it a knock it out of the park guitar... I'm really fortunate in the build that I found that great M Campellone made ebony pick guard with the hand wound Kent Armstrong PAF 0 already installed... $75.00. I think you can find a picture of it on the first page of this thread...

    It will be interesting to see how much or little fret dressing is needed once I get it. My last purchase from them was 6 years ago. It needed a little fret work, but not much. And owning the Eastman Prototype (purported by a guy in Eastman marketing who was there in the beginning and remembers that very guitar) there was a marked improvement from the Eastman pro to to the Lora YZ23 he made for me in 2010. So we will see.

    I'm trying to fathom what they are doing now. Is Mrs. Wu installing that SPECIAL inlay in the headstock, has it been shot with lacquer already ?? Has he done the frets. WHERE is it in the process. Dang, I have so much going on the guitar project is a real boost and upper for me.

    Big

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    Mine didn't need any fret work, just electronics and a couple of details here and there. Set up I mean. But I do all the work myself so I save up a lot.

    Let us know how it sounds when you get it.

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    abelljo

    Wow THAT is nice, your guitar and mine might be going along in the roughly same stages and room right now !! Cool to hear that your last purchase didn't need any fret work. He's really come a very long way and Lora has taken the customer input back to Mr Wu on things like frets and he's actually done something about it. I can't say that about other companies over there I bought from that
    even elicited my advice on the matter...

    Terrific, I bet you check your mail 3-4 times in the middle of the night. I DO !! LOL !!!!!!

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    Lora wrote to say she'd have updated photos "tomorrow", meaning Saturday morning my time. No finer words can a customer like me read:


    Sorry for delaying reply, These days, we are busy for preparing Chinese New Year. I will check with Mr Wu and send update photos tomorrow. But I think Mr Wu do some final process.

    By the way, we need ship the guitar after Chinese New Year, Cause the courier has holidays and it will be shipped February 14 around.

  26. #75

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMikeinNJ
    By the way, we need ship the guitar after Chinese New Year, Cause the courier has holidays and it will be shipped February 14 around.
    Haha, it was the same for me two years ago, it got shipped right after Chinese New Year.

    Take it easy Mike, and don't bite your nails !

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    Xuoham, thanks for the comments. I had told Lora to make sure the guitar gets a little extra time to dry. It will be interesting to see what progress has been made.

    ​Well I got so much going on right now that I plan on using the waiting time very industriously, you see in mid March I am relocating to the Chicago area to be near my Mom who we had to put in an Advanced Care facility, her nurse sent me photos Thursday and doggone my Mom is so frail. I gotta go there really soon. It means making a huge sacrifice and rehoming my animals, a real heart breaker for me. I already have someone that is taking the chickens and coop - the best prospect I could ever pray for, the horse farm behind me. Vinny1K said I have a big heart, well doggone guys right now my heart is anxious to be at my Mom's side and breaking because these guys sense something is up. They're all on their very best behavior too. So it is a bitter sweet time for me. Please pray for my Mom, Georgia. And pray also that I find the very best homes for my guys. THAT would be much appreciated.

    Big

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    Heart breaking moments and the sheer beauty of life are mysteriously connected.

    My prayers for your Mom and your little friends, Mike. Best of luck to them.

    One seldom regrets moving forward, and even so, it is never as cruel as regretting NOT doing something, is it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by abelljo
    Mine didn't need any fret work, just electronics and a couple of details here and there. Set up I mean. But I do all the work myself so I save up a lot.

    Let us know how it sounds when you get it.
    Hi Abelljo!

    Any more photos on your 18" build? What's the depth?

    She looks nice!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMikeinNJ
    Xuoham, thanks for the comments. I had told Lora to make sure the guitar gets a little extra time to dry. It will be interesting to see what progress has been made.

    ​Well I got so much going on right now that I plan on using the waiting time very industriously, you see in mid March I am relocating to the Chicago area to be near my Mom who we had to put in an Advanced Care facility, her nurse sent me photos Thursday and doggone my Mom is so frail. I gotta go there really soon. It means making a huge sacrifice and rehoming my animals, a real heart breaker for me. I already have someone that is taking the chickens and coop - the best prospect I could ever pray for, the horse farm behind me. Vinny1K said I have a big heart, well doggone guys right now my heart is anxious to be at my Mom's side and breaking because these guys sense something is up. They're all on their very best behavior too. So it is a bitter sweet time for me. Please pray for my Mom, Georgia. And pray also that I find the very best homes for my guys. THAT would be much appreciated.

    Big

    Take Care of yourself Mike. Your Mom is in our prayers. She will be more comfortable knowing you are nearby when you get there. GodSpeed. And good luck to the animals too.
    Stay strong Mikey..

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    It's tough but I got to do it. I talked to my Mom about 1/2 hour ago. She's doing ok, learning that the regular bingo game is a nice distraction for her, she likes "gambling". I keep seeing the scene from The Godfather where Michael Corleone is at his father's hospital bedside kissing his hand telling him "I'm with you now Pop, I'm with you"... I long for that moment with my Mom, and when I can spoil and pamper her with my cooking. Tough steps earn me a safer place to grow old, a little more money in the budget every month and seeing my Mom. Chicago has a lot to offer an old foodie like me. I keep asking God for help with the animals. My local friends are working to help me. Something is gonna come up for everyone. I'm not leaving Jersey until I have everyone placed in a good Forever Home. That's how I roll.

    Thank you for your encouraging words and prayers, everyone.

    Big

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    You got it brother.
    New Jersey is losing a bright spot.

    JD

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    BigMike, I am a big believer in prayer. I also will be praying for you.

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    03:45 mail call.
    Hale ?!?!!!

    Looking very nice. Check out the stuff in the background, bending frames, partially built archtops
    My guitar is amazing


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    A couple more shots. Wow who needs coffee now ?!?!
    Lol !?!?

    a little iPad quirkiness
    ill post them later
    think I posted one twice... Lol !!

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    Sexy from head to toe !

    Btw, it's always fun to look at all the stuff in the background. I love all those pix taken at a different place each time.
    Starting to get an idea of the main room, especially in relation to those photos.

    Man, i would love to go there and see and touch and smell and hear.
    Not so far from Okinawa ...

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    I agree, it would be very fascinating going there, seeing them work for a couple days. You can't "get it all" just by doing a walk thru.

    It reminds me of the fascination I have when in a really top flight restaurant, seeing all the really very nice plates coming out. There was a seafood/charcuterie place in Berkeley I met a date at, first date. She suggested we sit up in the balcony for the people watching - it was just before Christmas and a lot of out of towner's were visiting and relaxing (very much like the Chinese New Year for Lora and The Wu's) the menu was jaw dropping. They had the best selection of raw oysters (at least 7 varieties), lobsters, crab, seafood dishes, charcuterie (roasted meat cuts and specialty sausages and salami made on site, and their own aged artisinal cheeses. Being up in the balcony I could see waiters taking out these great platters. I stole more ideas for my home use just seeing the stuff presented. My date could see I was in my own element and we had fun talking and drinking. Our food was really nice. I told her I would love working there for 6 months to just learn how they did all that stuff. The food was really very top flight.

    Added treat, when we were almost ready to leave the table behind us emptied. Going down the stairs was Carlos Santana the famed guitar player (wearing a suit with a matching scarf and beret). I gave him a little nod and wink and he busted out a great smile in return... Totally cool.

    I can see anyone like us just being absorbed by what Mr and Mrs Wu do in their little workshop - it'd be like paradise for all of us to really get an understanding of how all this comes to be. And an appreciation of our own instruments once we have them in hand
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    Mike that is amazing.
    Mr Wu should be grateful for the help you give them. You are selling a bunch of guitars for them.
    That is awesome.
    JD

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    Well I guess I am helping them sell, but really it's my enthusiasm for the form and how they go about doing it in a very old world, non CNC fashion. If my enthusiasm and love for the craft rubs off and people decide to buy well great. I mean look at the background stuff in this last batch of photos, there's a very nice sunburst sharp cut Super 400 looking guitar, a nice blonde venetian cut arch top (gotta get back on my iPad and blow up what it says on the headstock) and more being slowly assembled. I'm telling ya I'd be like a kid in a candy store...

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    I like the characters for Mr Wu's name: He's a luthier and an artist - his name should be on the instrument. If I order I'm thinking similar symbols for fret markers could be very cool (just need to think of a message I'd want on there).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxTwang
    I like the characters for Mr Wu's name: He's a luthier and an artist - his name should be on the instrument. If I order I'm thinking similar symbols for fret markers could be very cool (just need to think of a message I'd want on there).

    That's exactly what I thought. I had any number of options at my disposal but at the end of the day I realized, HEY This Is A Mr. Wu Guitar... and seeing someone else had used that very design on his guitar it seemed a natural to me.

    Now my next guitar I've got another idea in mind. Of course the YolandaTeam label will be inside, signed by Ms Lora, Mr and Mrs Wu... My next guitar will be a 17x2 1/2 inch
    copy of a Campellone guitar built to commemorate the lost Twin Towers, it is called the Manhattan Skyline, I am having him recreate it (but with the pickup right against the end of the fingerboard and the larger thinner body explained above). I want it to say Manhattan in the same scroll that is used to say M Campellone in this photo... A cherry sunburst, my first cherry sunburst arch top. Once my move to Chicago is completed I can start the new project. Same deal, the VERY BEST woods they can find, no rush to get it built, just do it right...

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    Question BigMike:

    The characters of Mr Wu's name are inlaid abalone, or a template like the "special" logo?

    I assumed any headstock logo, especially if requested, would be actual MOP.

    Is Mr Wu not prepared to do MOP inlay designs on headstocks? If the answer is no, why glue a template and then lacquer over it? Is it to save time, and have the end result appear more accurate?

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    I specifically requested the logo to be abalone. In my original post I state that.
    I can see how some guys would want the logo of their choice to be in MOP, look at the 18 inch guitar being talked about now and you'll see his logo is MOP I believe...

    Here is the Special inlay, it is MOP and it was INLAID. What any good inlay artist would do is lay the logo on the headstock in the position they want it, trace the area in pencil they need to cut out of the ebony headstock veneer and cut inside that. I've done enough opal inlay to know you mix epoxy and something black and carefully lay that in the cutout area, then gently lower your inlay pieces in, which Mrs Wu did (that inlay is 3 distinct sections). In my case you can see once it was done where the upper part of the capital S in Special and the middle of the lower case P have that epoxy mixture in them. No big whoop to me (but that's because I've done inlay in 18k rings I cast).

    I think I mentioned it before and you can see it again and again in this latest batch of photos. They shot the photos inside and I bet it was overcast: so many times it is artificial fluorescent lighting only and any outside light is negligible at best. Here's the inlay again.

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    Here's the blue tulip on that 18
    inched and that logo is inlaid MOP, yes ??

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  44. #93

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMikeinNJ
    I specifically requested the logo to be abalone. In my original post I state that.
    I can see how some guys would want the logo of their choice to be in MOP, look at the 18 inch guitar being talked about now and you'll see his logo is MOP I believe...

    Here is the Special inlay, it is MOP and it was INLAID. What any good inlay artist would do is lay the logo on the headstock in the position they want it, trace the area in pencil they need to cut out of the ebony headstock veneer and cut inside that. I've done enough opal inlay to know you mix epoxy and something black and carefully lay that in the cutout area, then gently lower your inlay pieces in, which Mrs Wu did (that inlay is 3 distinct sections). In my case you can see once it was done where the upper part of the capital S in Special and the middle of the lower case P have that epoxy mixture in them. No big whoop to me (but that's because I've done inlay in 18k rings I cast).

    I think I mentioned it before and you can see it again and again in this latest batch of photos. They shot the photos inside and I bet it was overcast: so many times it is artificial fluorescent lighting only and any outside light is negligible at best. Here's the inlay again.

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    Here's the blue tulip on that 18
    inched and that logo is inlaid MOP, yes ??

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    Thanks for the confirmation BigMike.

    I requested, and agreed to, MOP "inlays."

    To my surprise, yesterday Lora confirmed for me that the "blue tulip" logo above, in her words, "will glue on the head using lacquer."

    What am I missing about the "inlay" process done by Mr Wu? Essentially a "sticker" is created from photoshop and then lacquered over on top of the ebony? What about the individual fretboard markers? Are these "stickers" too?


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    2B, I still think you are off by a Jersey Shore Mile on your guess.

    Look at my headstock INLAY, that picture of the inlay pieces, look at it. In the photo it's backwards, yes ??
    And you have to ask yourself, how many pieces is that inlay. Is it 3 or is it 11 ?? In other words are each of the "spears" in the bottom and top individual pieces (each totaling 5 pieces) or is each "spear" 1 piece of pearl with very clever jewelers saw incisions cut into it, so that when it is flipped over and inserted into blackened epoxy it shows thru the pearl enough to look like separate spears. These are clever tricks of the scrimshaw and inlay artists craft.

    OK, now look at the center section, it's backwards yes ?? Look very carefully (I have an iPad Air and I'm able to really blow that image up by doing a "stretch"). Can you see what I call "tap holes", holes drilled for a jeweler saw blade to go into, the cutter inserts the end of the blade thru the hole, attaches it to the lower part of the saw jig and tightens the blade. Then carefully cuts the S in Special. But in doing that a piece can call out in the upper part of the S thus the upper part of the S is filled with blackened epoxy). Next the P in Special is started. See on the bottom where the saw is used to cut the long part of the P with ?? Guess what, in doing that the center of the P could fall out leaving room for blackened epoxy to fill it. Next another "tap hole" is drilled and the rest of the word SPECIAL is sawed clear thru the pearl. With me so far ?? So you lay those pieces on the headstock and trace the area you will cut out, first with a Exacto knife and perhaps the rest carefully whittled away with a Foredom flexible shaft and bit or a Dremel with a small bit.

    I say all this because I studied Jewelry Making at Southern Illinois University, worked as an apprentice on the North Side in Chicago until I got drafted and later in my 2 years taught Jewelry Making at a Special Services Arts and Crafts center on base as my full time duty. After that I kept making jewelry up until about 2007 when my eyes started messing up. There's a million little tricks they use. These are my "guestimations" on how they did my inlay. Do you honestly think my SPECIAL inlay is some "sticker" ?? Really ?? Maybe they had to do that with the Tulip, but that isn't that hard a thing to pull off with some slick jeweler's saw work. How do you think they take a fingerboard and cut into it or the inlays ?? They use awls and or a dremel or flexible shaft
    hand piece and small bits. Takes time, it's work suited for someone who is very patient and has a VERY steady hand. Or some hippie dude doing whites or crank to keep them busy (sorry my shady past is rearing it's strange head here).

    I'm up for any suggestions. Stickers, I don't think so. If my fingerboard inlays were stickers they would have gone on AFTER the frets were installed... Just me wondering out loud using my jewelers experience.


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    I wonder if that's my 18" on the background??????

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    Ask Ms Lora point blank to ask Mrs Wu how she made the inlay and then take the conversation with Ms Lora from there once you get your answer.

    Here's another Special headstock inlay, notice the guitar headstock
    has flame maple binding, something Mark Campellone refuses to do (based on an experienced member's request to M Campellone a man who Campellone sold many guitars to that he sold in his store).

    It's a Mr Wu Special copy, the motivation for my project... It's a cherry burst, sorta fatter neck. Gorgeous guitar

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    abelljo, it may indeed be your guitar. If it is it appears it now has it's frets done. Based on that I would suggest you inquire with Ms Lora, you may be in the just after Chinese New Year shipping window I am now in !!!!

    Which would be cool indeed !!!!

    Yeah !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Okay, clearly communication was dropped on my "inlay." An overlay of a template glued on is clearly not a MOP inlay. If there is no etching of ebony to insert individual MOP pieces, they're not inlays, are they?

    A word of advisement to anyone ordering a future guitar with Mr Wu can learn from my experience, should ask more specific questions, regarding inlays. This sticker gluing process onto the top of the headstock came as a complete surprise to me.

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    I know it's not what you wanted 2b but I'm sure it's fine.
    And if it bothers you, they could probably fix it.
    Thanks for teaching us that the language barrier is potentially a real issue with this particular builder. They will learn and they will get it right. The guitar is still beautiful.
    Joe D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe DeNisco
    I know it's not what you wanted 2b but I'm sure it's fine.
    And if it bothers you, they could probably fix it.
    Thanks for teaching us that the language barrier is potentially a real issue with this particular builder. They will learn and they will get it right. The guitar is still beautiful.
    Joe D
    Thanks for the supportive word Joe.

    I've received confirmation that every "inlay" Mrs Wu produces is inserted into the wood by etching the ebony - Except the headstock logo.

    Per Ms Lora their headstock logos are generally overlays atop the headstock, and lacquered over. And that makes perfect sense given the vast number of intricate letters needed to satisfy everyones labeling needs.

    Perhaps its only companies that use the identical name each time, such as the "heritage", that inserts a name logo into the headstock of a Golden Eagle which are "inlaid" into the wood? And even they don't use MOP logo's on their lesser guitars.

    What do I know about inlays on new guitars...I've never owned one!