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My pants just got tight!
Originally Posted by Alter
Damn, haven't checked this thread for a while... serious gas attack!
How about this one?
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03-02-2021 05:35 PM
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Yeah, pretty sweet looking. I saw this in a guitar.com article on the 2021 Prestige series. It was a page full of guitars with list prices $10,000 and up. They gave no price for this one. Guess that doesn't mean it's free... Originally Posted by Alter
Damn, haven't checked this thread for a while... serious gas attack!
How about this one?
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I love it! Originally Posted by Alter
Damn, haven't checked this thread for a while... serious gas attack!
How about this one?
Would have been even better with an f-hole.... :-)
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out of interest , how much did you get Originally Posted by Half-trick pony;[URL="tel:1102407"
for the 302s ?
I’m looking out for one in red myself
thanks
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I will send you a PM.
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Can any of you tel-evangelists tell me what the audible difference is between a stock tele played through the neck pickup and a stock (hardtail) strat through the neck pickup? Why would they sound any different? Both single coil pickups, necks are the same, body geography is slightly different but can't see how that would change the sound much.
So why the tele love and not equal billing for strats? I would love to be enlightened. I thank you in advance for sharing your wisdom.
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tele neck and strat pup are 2 different designs....the tele pickup traditionally uses thin #43 wire around the bobbin...also has slightly smaller bobbin, and has the cover...strat pickups use #42 wire...and no covers...
the difference in wire changes the pickups resistance, hence the volume and tone
being a single coil pickup fan, i like both...but neither as good as the jazzmaster neck pickup!...but that's another thread...
cheers
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I am pretty confident that in any real world comparision, i.e. not unter lab conditions, I would not be able to tell a difference. Originally Posted by JazzDaddyD
Tim Lerch did a very nice comparision between a bunch of Teles and archtops and I can't even reliably tell those apart.
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Most of the time, at least, the Strat sounds different than the Tele. The Strat pickup sound tends to be glassier, due to the lack of a cover which changes the magnetic field and probably also induces eddy currents in the coil, and the different gauge wire. Bill Lawrence Tele pickups come with a plastic cover rather than a metal one to eliminate the effects of the cover on the sound of the pickup. In the neck positions of my Strat and my Telecaster I have the Bill Lawrence Wilde L280 pickups; they sound virtually identical in the two instruments (more along the lines of a polite P90 than a Fender single coil). That suggests to me that the difference in sound between Strat and Tele neck pickups is the architecture of the pickup.
edit: generally speaking, I like the sound of the Tele neck pickup and not so much the sound of the Strat neck pickup, except for Hendrix.Last edited by Cunamara; 03-07-2021 at 01:57 PM.
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A good old Tele Neckpickup‘s got a nickelsilver cover, one part of the vintage tone.
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The tele neck pickup has always been a crapshoot, and folks have been putting strat neck pickups (and many other styles as well) into teles for years.
Don Mare's Stelly pickup addresses the concerns of players who don't want to change the classic tele look but prefer a strat neck pickup sound.
This cover style has been around for awhile, balancing shielding with changes in magnetic fields in some way.
I just think it looks cool.Last edited by Hammertone; 03-21-2021 at 10:13 PM.
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Except the good ones. Originally Posted by Hammertone
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Originally Posted by Hammertone
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Well, I did it... I joined the Tele club! It’s a G&L Tribute ASAT Bluesboy.
This is the latest chapter in my saga that started with realizing that my Godin 5th Avenue was hurting my hand, by making my arthritis flare up with the flat fretboard radius. I traded it for an Ibanez AK95 and cash towards my new partscaster build, and I got to keep my Godin TRIC case for the Ibanez (perfect fit!). But I didn’t like the Ibanez either (I guess 12” radius was still too flat, plus it was heavier!). So I offered a straight swap for this when a guy had it listed on Facebook Marketplace. It came with an ABS hard shell case, but I’ll probably use a really nice gig bag most of the time. But this and cash for a Godin 5th Avenue is a deal I would make every time. It does need some work leveling a few high frets, and one of the nut slots is cut too low (going to do the baking soda and super glue trick first), but the neck feels fantastic and the pickups sound great through my Quilter Amp. It’s a great platform and I’ll probably mod it out.
Edited to add that the only thing I dislike so far is how BIG these frets are.These are the tallest jumbos I’ve ever played on!Last edited by zcostilla; 03-22-2021 at 10:37 AM.
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One nice thing about that MIA G&Ls is that they are all custom made from your specs. You can request vintage-size frets. Originally Posted by zcostilla
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Played a set for the first time in months and months last night. What did I grab to bring? The tele. If anyone is interested you can check it out here: https://fb.watch/4shRe5PPQy/
Set List:
- quarantine blues (original)
- On the Sunny Side of the Street
- Blues for G (original)
- In a Mellow Tone
- Alone Together
- Peace
- Softly as in a Morning Sunrise
- Stella by Starlight
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Meanwhile... in today’s edition of my guitar feels great, but it’s WAY too heavy!
I love the feel of the neck (even if I notice the longer 25.5” scale length), but it is just way to heavy to play standing, and even sitting for a while feels heavy, or rather, it did. So I improvised.
It’s now a good “average” weight (sorry, no scale to be exact). Next up will be deciding if I will keep it forever after building my “Zac-caster”. If so, this will have to get relic work (not my favorite) to made the forearm and belly contour I will have to add look like it belongs. Then a new neck pickup and potentiometers/cap.
the joys of spine and left shoulder injuries (and a bum knee to boot).
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Nice playing! Which Telecaster model did you play? Originally Posted by Paulie2
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You can go way past there with a router - just remove ALL the wood hidden under the pickguard. Originally Posted by zcostilla
Meanwhile... in today’s edition of my guitar feels great, but it’s WAY too heavy! I love the feel of the neck (even if I notice the longer 25.5” scale length), but it is just way to heavy to play standing, and even sitting for a while feels heavy, or rather, it did. So I improvised. It’s now a good “average” weight (sorry, no scale to be exact). ...Last edited by Hammertone; 03-31-2021 at 12:34 PM.
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Yeah .. This is an actual Fender Custom Shop model after all (based on a 1967 smugglers teles?) Originally Posted by Hammertone
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Oh ! A Swiss Cheese Telecaster ! Originally Posted by zcostilla
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You’d never know once the pickguard is put back on Originally Posted by 339 in june
Oh ! A Swiss Cheese Telecaster !
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My ZacCaster will be like that. The luthier is finishing up the body and should hopefully ship it back with my neck next week. It’s not a Tele shape, but it has a Tele bridge. But I won’t desecrate this thread with a photo. I’ll start a new one for documenting my build progress. Originally Posted by Lobomov
Yeah .. This is an actual Fender Custom Shop model after all (based on a 1967 smugglers teles?)
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Work in progress. Light enough!
Last edited by Hammertone; 04-01-2021 at 02:23 PM.
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Wow thanks! Appreciate you checking it out. It is a Fender CS Artisan. Here's my NGD for the specs: Originally Posted by Jazz_175
Telecaster Love Thread, No Archtops Allowed
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I’d like to reach out to all the tele lovers for recommendations for a 2xP90 tele style guitar, (preferably) rosewood neck, 12” or 9.5” radius, with individual intonation and hight adjustment for all strings. The G&L Tribute ASAT special looks a possibility but the lowish price point makes me hesitate...
anything up to 2k considered
ideas?
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The Tribute ASATs are nice instruments. IIRC the electronics are USA. Great values.
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They are almost all USA pickups. The Bluesboy neck pickup (my model) is definitely not the same. Mine is definitely lacking clarity and will get changed out if I keep it once my custom ZacCaster is done. The bridge pickup is the same ASAT Classic as the USA Model. All the MFD pickups are USA made, regardless of which guitar they’re used in. The potentiometers in the Tributes are definitely lower-grade import stuff. Originally Posted by Cunamara
The Junior II has P-90s, but the Special has MFDs that are very unique. You really ought to check the, out on YouTube, and then in person if they video piques your interest.
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Originally Posted by Ray175
"Lowish price point" does not mean "bad guitar!" G&L's are fine instruments!
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Indeed! The feel of this $400 guitar is far better than anything else at this price point. I’ve played $850 USA Fenders that didn’t feel this good. Originally Posted by marcwhy
"Lowish price point" does not mean "bad guitar!" G&L's are fine instruments!
That said, ALL the Tributes have REALLY TALL FRETS. If that’s a deal breaker, then it is what it is. At least er they’re well dressed. I thought I would hate it, but they’re growing on me (pun intended). Not sure that’s what I’ll use when I do the neck on my custom guitar, but they’re definitely playable.
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If you've got the cash, the MIA ASAT Specials are great (I have one -- with an ebony fretboard and a 1.75" nut) and they can be custom ordered, so you can specify options. The jumbo MFD pickups aren't exactly P90s. I'd call them P90s with a college degree -- they are more HiFi and less snarly. They work great for jazz if you are looking for clean tones. Originally Posted by Ray175
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Quite right ! I have 2 excellent guitars at around the same price point, but they tend to be the exception rather than the rule - hence my hesitation and question..... Originally Posted by marcwhy
"Lowish price point" does not mean "bad guitar!" G&L's are fine instruments!
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Really tall frets? Shame, that's not really something I get along with - after several years of classical training on the 'cello before starting to play guitar my fretting hand is more than "firm" and with higher frets that could produce intonation problems - after 50+ years of guitar I'm not likely to adapt my stype to higher frets Originally Posted by zcostilla
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For MIA guitars you can choose between medium jumbo and vintage: Custom Shop Guitar Options | G&L Musical Instruments Originally Posted by Ray175
The frets on the Tribute imports must be different.
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Yes, this is one big difference between the Tribute series from Asia and the USA models. With the Fullerton models you also get to specify any belly/forearm contouring, and a lot more. But I took mine on trade, and felt I got the better end of everything, so I’m learning to live with it. Definitely going with mediums on my build. Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
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The vintage frets are more to my taste at 0,043 height as opposed to 0.057 for the medium jumbo - that's very close to what I have on my 1961 ES-175D in terms of hight. The downside going custom shop is the additional cost of shipping to Europe and import duties, so I'd prefer to find something that can be bought directy from a European (non-UK since Brexit) supplier or shop. If I can't source anything in a tele shape my fallback 2xP90 could be the new Gibson ES-330 Slim Harpo "Lovell" for which I am awaiting quotes from the European shops...... not a tele but a really nice piece of kit from the looks of it
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It took about a year but I finally got all the parts together for my dream build!
MJT alder body, Warmoth roasted maple neck (fatback contour), McNelly bliss pickups, Rutters bridge and saddles, mostly fender for all the little parts.
And here’s the preliminary fitting:
This is my main player I’ve had for several years now. Squier body, allparts fat neck, Bill Lawrence Keystone pickups, 4-way switch.
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I love Teles. I have five! This is a drool-worthy instrument, but honestly, the only thing "Tele" about it is the body shape. Originally Posted by Alter
Damn, haven't checked this thread for a while... serious gas attack!
How about this one?
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Originally Posted by sambae
Welcome! And congrats -- that will be a sweet guitar!
Marc
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My Tele - weight 8 lb
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Originally Posted by sambae
It took about a year but I finally got all the parts together for my dream build!
MJT alder body, Warmoth roasted maple neck (fatback contour), McNelly bliss pickups, Rutters bridge and saddles, mostly fender for all the little parts.
And here’s the preliminary fitting:
This is my main player I’ve had for several years now. Squier body, allparts fat neck, Bill Lawrence Keystone pickups, 4-way switch.
That's going to be a sweet player! More pix when it's done, please!
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anyone here using the gibson scale conversion neck by warmoth? I always wanted to try a tele with a shorter scale and flatter radius, but almost 400 euro (shipping/taxes) is a lot for just a fun experiment.. But i recently sold the guitar pedals that i stopped using, were hidden in my closet (some i even forgot i had) and which resulted in a surprising amount of guitar money
So now i’m tempted again..
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I haven't tried Warmoth conversion necks, but I have conversion necks from Musikraft, which I love, and Best Guitar Parts, which are my favorite. They bring my Telecasters closer in feel to my ES-335, which was my goal.
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I thought this might interest folks here, I review I just did for the Donner DJC-1000S.
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Nice, it sounds really good for an inexpensive instrument. How well did it stay in tune (taking the factory intonation into consideration)? Originally Posted by Jake Reichbart
(Edited for spelling)
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Yeah, the intonation surprised me as well, I can only imagine these guitars are machine cut with laser precision which in the past may have been a costly and complicated procedure but now is apparently achievable at low cost. I really struggled to find an out-of-tune note on this guitar as you saw. Originally Posted by zcostilla
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Thank you... and I hate my autocorrect. I call it autoconfuse. Originally Posted by Jake Reichbart
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I have one and love it, and will get another to do a Strat as well. Originally Posted by waltf
anyone here using the gibson scale conversion neck by warmoth? I always wanted to try a tele with a shorter scale and flatter radius, but almost 400 euro (shipping/taxes) is a lot for just a fun experiment.. But i recently sold the guitar pedals that i stopped using, were hidden in my closet (some i even forgot i had) and which resulted in a surprising amount of guitar money
So now i’m tempted again..
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I have one on a Strat, roasted maple with roasted maple fingerboard so it didn't need to be finished. Feels great under the hand. I've had it for 5 years or so, very stable. Smelled amazing when it was unboxed, sort of like a smoky maple-y incense, but that didn't last. Originally Posted by waltf
anyone here using the gibson scale conversion neck by warmoth? I always wanted to try a tele with a shorter scale and flatter radius, but almost 400 euro (shipping/taxes) is a lot for just a fun experiment.. But i recently sold the guitar pedals that i stopped using, were hidden in my closet (some i even forgot i had) and which resulted in a surprising amount of guitar money
So now i’m tempted again..
it also changes the sound of the instrument. Less twang, rounder highs. I liked that, but putting one on a Tele or Strat will shift the tone somewhat.
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I love my Hanh model "C", made out of sugar pine, light, resonant, and a delight to play. The pickups on this one are custom (Jazz-Tele) pickups by Pete Biltoft from Vintage Vibe Guitars. The neck has a very thick, girthy, fat tone!
Cheers,
Arnie...
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