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    Quote Originally Posted by travisty
    Rich,
    Momose (note spelling), Headway, Seventy-Seven, Bacchus (and STR) are all brands run by Deviser. A bunch of them are probably made by/in the same factories. Deviser also has a few guitars out there under its own name but they are rare. I have seen archtops with Headway, Seventy-Seven, Deviser out there. There is an STR add with semi-hollows up on the For Sale section from time to time.

    The pic you note as "FGN?" is indeed FGN (the headstock marker on Fujigen's own brand). You can tell from the f-hole. Not sure when that dates from but they make some decent stuff (and still do).

    Love the Koa Hawk [drool]!

    FWIW... An Ibanez PM-200 (Natural) can be had in Japan for JPY 300k new if you get the sales tax rebated. That gets you to <$2400 + shipping - which to the US would be roughly US$200 I expect. Though there would be an import duty to protect American producers from nasty foreign producers who just want to drive them out of business.

    Thanks Travis.

    Actually I knew the Deviser company was the parent company of those brands mentioned. I dont know why I said it was Headway, must have been late.
    I also managed to spell 'Momose' correctly in the second part of my post (paragraph after the pics) so yeh, I think my brain had already gone to bed

    But thanks for making the corrections. I enjoy you being around and your input. Prior to that I and a couple of others were the Japanese aficionados (loosely) but I had never been to Japan and as such cant gain the level of knowledge that you seem to have acquired. Its helping me fill in the blanks of my fav guitars

    I really need to go to Japan. I'm sure I could pay for the whole trip buying a couple of guitars and shipping them back. I'm just worried about the language barrier and falling in love with beautiful Japanese women. I already have a soft spot for Koreans

    I WANT THAT KOA!!! Grrrr
    Last edited by Archie; 08-05-2015 at 05:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe DeNisco
    Vinny and Jack, a couple of months ago after I scratched my L7c with an evil falling microphone, I decided to get myself something for around $1000 that I wouldn't mind messing up. For a little over $1000, I got an Eastman ar580. When I got it, Honestly, I expected a cheese fest to pop out of the case. Didn't happen. This guitar is an unbelievable value. Ebony everywhere. Flame maple bindings. Nitro lacquer applied to perfection. It plays very good. The sound surprises me. The neck is every bit as good as any neck I've touched. Gotoh tuners. Solid top. I'm telling you, for the money you can't get better than this, anywhere. When they figure out how to apply stain (not with paper towels) and do some quality toning like what was done on the teardrop Wusterpiece that is on the board right now, LOOK OUT!!
    Funny thing. I thought about this awful pontification of mine last night and I came to a weird irony...

    After the details of my next purchase gets worked out, My Eastman 580CE will be in the launched position as i start my search for the most mint condition hand signed JP20 (yes made in Japan) that I could find for $2000.

    So Vincent and Jack, I stand corrected. Eastman guitars are really nice but for some reason, they just don't attach themselves to you like some other Guitars do..

    Sorry Guys.

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    > I am just thinking about the new generation jazz guitarist. How is he/she going to ever be able to afford a decent axe at these prices.

    There has never been a cheaper time than now to buy a guitar. Remember that your 1977 dollar is worth $4 now. A new kid playing guitar these days can pick up a pretty nice new ibanez or loar archtop for a hundred bucks or so in 1977 money. A hundred bucks in 1977 would buy firewood. Gibsons are the only guitars that have gone up faster than inflation, but there are lots of used ones available at reasonable prices (who buys new Gibsons?).

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    FWIW, I think that Seventy Seven http://www.deviser-77.com/ is the new Gibson of the '50s. Look at the line-up of products and the craftsmanship shown in all of them.

    It might get more expensive, but it just doesn't get any better than this, if you asked me.

    HTH,
    Last edited by LtKojak; 08-05-2015 at 03:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LtKojak
    FWIW, I think that Seventy Seven Home-??????????????????????????????????? - SeventySeven Guitars Official Site is the new Gibson of the '50s. Look at the line-up of products and the craftsmanship shown in all of them.

    It might get more expensive, but it just doesn't get any better than this, if you asked me.

    HTH,
    +1

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    Who buys new Gibsons ? ME

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinnyv1k
    Who buys new Gibsons ? ME
    Nice ones too...

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    Rich,

    My brain had already gone to bed too.
    Japan is a wonderful place to spend some time. For all kinds of reasons I imagine.

    You may be right that Japanese don't like 17" guitars, but I don't know. Japan likes jazz, but listens more and plays less, and when it plays, guitar is down the list in terms of methods of expression.

    Personally, I find that when I see archtops for sale in Japan, they are generally the 16+ to 18" size. If one goes to Ochanomizu or Shibuya or certain places in Osaka, what one sees which has been purchased abroad recently, or purchased abroad in the past and put on the local used market, is 17" size or style guitars though admittedly 175s are quite popular. I am surprised I don't see more Byrdlands.

    NEW guitars made by Japanese factories (Terada, Fujigen, etc) tend to be in the 16-17" range rather than the 17-18" range. Those made by luthiers tend to be 17". Japan loves a tradition.

    But archtops in Japan are rarer than they are in the US point blank. Any given store will have, well, none. If they have a store with 3-4 of them, they are almost specialists. There is no Japanese version of archtop.com (unless it is walkin's Facebook page).
    Last edited by travisty; 08-07-2015 at 12:45 AM.

  10. #34

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    There are both entry level and midrange made in America guitars on the American market for working and non working musicians. And the market is flooded with them. You've heard of them. Heritage Guitar of Kalamazoo, MI. Just sayin


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    Pretty one 2bop !!!

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    Chaki!

    Japan made Archtops-sbca0054_3_lb-jpg

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    Nice Chaki JW! Zat yours? Is it for sale somewhere?
    Looks like a P-6 or a P-Special with a P-6 body (or possibly a P-80 but I didn't think they put that nice a headstock on those).

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    Quote Originally Posted by travisty
    Nice Chaki JW! Zat yours? Is it for sale somewhere?
    Looks like a P-6 or a P-Special with a P-6 body (or possibly a P-80 but I didn't think they put that nice a headstock on those).
    Not mine, Trav. For sale at ƒgƒbƒv - ƒJƒƒZŠyŠí. Asking JPY200000.

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    Thanks JW. I didn't know about this place (there sure are a lot of them) but they appear to be right down near Hoochie's. No word on what model it is.

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    I wish I never read this thread! I found this after a VERY quick search:

    Archtop Tribute AT350Classic Prototype LAN???????????ITM0671273?J????????Archtop Tribute?


    Looks beautiful. I've lusted after a single P90 ES350 for years! How do I BUY IT!!!

    'Moe

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
    There are both entry level and midrange made in America guitars on the American market for working and non working musicians. And the market is flooded with them. You've heard of them. Heritage Guitar of Kalamazoo, MI. Just sayin

    i think I've heard of them before. Don't they make a guitar that has a Rose inlay in the pickguard and the headstock? Sounds familiar..

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    That Seventy Seven Tan Tan 17 looks awesome as well. Where do I find these?!

    'Moe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazzman301
    That Seventy Seven Tan Tan 17 looks awesome as well. Where do I find these?!

    'Moe
    DISTRIBUTOR - SeventySeven Guitars Official Site

    HTH,

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    No US distributor email listed. Great looking guitars though. I'd dive all over that tan tan17.

    'Moe

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    Jazzman301, click on the word 'Email' and you'll get your email address.
    Note, however, that the TanTan was made for Guitarshiptantan outside of Tokyo at their request. You might only be able to get the stock models from Seventy-Seven directly.

    I would bet that if you really, really wanted a TanTan 17, you could contact them directly and get it sent to you. Because they deal in gypsy guitars and overseas-mase gypsy guitar parts, someone there would speak or write English. 230k is the price without tax.
    Last edited by travisty; 08-09-2015 at 12:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazzman301
    I wish I never read this thread! I found this after a VERY quick search:

    Archtop Tribute AT350Classic Prototype LAN???????????ITM0671273?J????????Archtop Tribute?


    Looks beautiful. I've lusted after a single P90 ES350 for years! How do I BUY IT!!!

    'Moe

    Just shoot them an email, they should respond. most sites on J-guitar will ship internationally. They have some weird pricing structure though but as long as you are happy with the end result.

    You can also try Walkin.jp they seem to stock them new for 50,000 Yen more.
    Last edited by Archie; 08-09-2015 at 06:31 AM.

  23. #47

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe DeNisco
    i think I've heard of them before. Don't they make a guitar that has a Rose inlay in the pickguard and the headstock? Sounds familiar..
    Could be. I´ve heard that they make every model as a lefty one aswell..Cant be true, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teddyfm
    Could be. I´ve heard that they make every model as a lefty one aswell..Cant be true, right?
    That sound like Heritage I know. Whatever the customer wants.

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    I am looking for a used Seventy Seven Hawk if anybody has one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 266211
    I am looking for a used Seventy Seven Hawk if anybody has one?
    Yeh me too, I'm just waiting for the second hand prices to start making sense. Seems to me dealers are charging nearly new prices at the moment, thats why they sit around on ebay for years not selling.
    Last edited by Archie; 08-12-2015 at 04:25 AM.