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    When I first joined the forum the Fender Jazzmaster Ultralight was highly sought after and utilized. Seems now the only time I hear about it is when one breaks. Now, all I hear about now is Mambo, Quilter, Aviator, Henrickson, and a couple of others. What happened?

    Do any of you still use the amp?

    I still really like mine and I still like the Fender SuperChamp XD, which is another amp that got some coveting, albeit to a lesser extent. I only seem to hear about one now when it is being sold. What gives?

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    Love my JMUL, am on my second one, and never had any issues with either besides the first one being "lost" (stolen) by the movers.

    i think the lack of inquiries on the board have more to do with them having been out of production for several years.

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    I use mine daily
    "Oh, those jazz guys are just making that stuff up!" - Homer

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    Wasn't there something similar made by Ibanez?

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    There may not be much "news" about the Ultralight because they're not made any longer. Those who have them are using them, but no one new is "discovering" them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlsoRan View Post
    Now, all I hear about now is Mambo, Quilter, Aviator, Henrickson, and a couple of others. What happened?
    Those amps are still made and readily available. The FJUL is not and it's a rare bird on the second hand market. It should still be a fine amp though.
    "But if they all play like me, then who am I?" (Lester Young)

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    Yea, I think it's just because it's long out of production. Given the opportunity, I would be happy to have one again at a reasonable price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woland View Post
    Wasn't there something similar made by Ibanez?
    I think you're thinking of the (recently OOP) Ibanez Wholetone. Nice amp, very different from the JMUL (besides being more 'dedicated' to jazz). I happen to have both the WT and JMUL, and they're quite different tonally and in response, IMHO. I've not had the pleasure in decades of trying a Polytone but it's been said that the WT was closer to that direction, whereas the JMUL is more like, well, a Fender.

    Anyway, still using and loving my JMUL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ingeneri View Post
    Love my JMUL, am on my second one, and never had any issues with either besides the first one being "lost" (stolen) by the movers.

    i think the lack of inquiries on the board have more to do with them having been out of production for several years.
    those movers had light fingers
    sorry ......

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    I'm still selling mine, just bumped the for sale thread. Entertaining all offers, be sure to read the description as I did have some intermittent issues.

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    I still think it could have been a great product if properly done.

    Here's a nice clip of one with an unknown cab.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AlsoRan View Post
    and I still like the Fender SuperChamp XD, which is another amp that got some coveting, albeit to a lesser extent. I only seem to hear about one now when it is being sold. What gives?
    I love my Super Champ X2 on the clean channel. It also has a JMUL emulation (voice 16), which I believe the XD doesn't. It is also good for jazz, but since I lost the mid control when the USB broke, it doesn't sound as good as Channel 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ooglybong View Post
    I think you're thinking of the (recently OOP) Ibanez Wholetone. Nice amp, very different from the JMUL (besides being more 'dedicated' to jazz). I happen to have both the WT and JMUL, and they're quite different tonally and in response, IMHO. I've not had the pleasure in decades of trying a Polytone but it's been said that the WT was closer to that direction, whereas the JMUL is more like, well, a Fender.

    Anyway, still using and loving my JMUL.
    Thanks - good to know. I had Polytone for quite a while. I made a mistake of buying 15" one and it was pleasant when playing at home but when you wanted to be loud you sounded like bass guitar. Then at some point I bought Evans which at first I though was too bright. But after a while I started thinking that Polytone was simply masking my sloppy technique. Evans is 110 - much better amp for archtop. At home I play unamplified a lot and when practicing at night I run my board through Carl Martin RockBug and into mixer - that way I can play very late without disturbing anybody and the sound is fairly good.

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    I'm reviving an old thread, but I can't find any recent info on these. What would be a good used price for a used head only?

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    I always wondered if people played Jazz on a Jazzmaster.

    I've only seen it widely used for jangly type pop/rock stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlsoRan View Post
    When I first joined the forum the Fender Jazzmaster Ultralight was highly sought after and utilized. Seems now the only time I hear about it is when one breaks. Now, all I hear about now is Mambo, Quilter, Aviator, Henrickson, and a couple of others. What happened?

    Do any of you still use the amp?

    I still really like mine and I still like the Fender SuperChamp XD, which is another amp that got some coveting, albeit to a lesser extent. I only seem to hear about one now when it is being sold. What gives?

    Guess that once an SS amp goes out of production and getting them repair starts getting difficult the love diminishes too.
    No, I'm not going to give you the answer to your question. I don't want to deny you the pleasure you'll receive when you figure it out yourself. -- Bill Evans talking to his brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jorgemg1984 View Post
    I still think it could have been a great product if properly done.

    Here's a nice clip of one with an unknown cab.

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    I don't know if it was because of an issue with mine, but I owned one and it sounded, small, midrangy, muddy and nasally. Great looking little head though! I did buy it used form ebay about 5 years ago...

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    Guitar Center had a used head on their website for $325 earlier today, it's gone now. I wonder if I sparked some gas by reviving this thread; your welcome GC.
    From what I've read, too many repair issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtpal25 View Post
    ...From what I've read, too many repair issues.
    The JMUL is getting on in years. The fear of not being able to get it repaired, and there are repair issues, has led to a decline of interest in it.

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    I have one and I want to sell it actually.

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    Good amp. The problem is that Fender cashiered it after a couple of years, so nobody is buying a new one anymore. The installed user base is small and no new units are being produced.

    By comparison, there are no new Polytones being made, but there are thousands of used ones out there. So word of mouth is still extensive even without new amps being produced.

    FWIW, people should be more jazzed (sorry) about the Fender Ultralight, at this point, but you didn't see them in clubs/stages and there aren't thousands floating around. They are a sharp 2nd hand purchase, however. Good jazz sounds contained therein.

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    The heir to the throne is the Quilter line of solid state amp heads. They'll do the traditional class D tones as well as the Fender style emulations.

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    For me, I lusted after reading the glowing reviews here... but when I owned it, I didn't like the sound much. Sold the head quickly and kept the cabinet, thinking I'd use it. But it was hard to pair with another amp, being only 2 ohms, so it sat in a corner. Finally sold it just recently and that's that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpguitar View Post
    For me, I lusted after reading the glowing reviews here... but when I owned it, I didn't like the sound much. Sold the head quickly and kept the cabinet, thinking I'd use it. But it was hard to pair with another amp, being only 2 ohms, so it sat in a corner. Finally sold it just recently and that's that.
    As developed as your ears must be, I have to ask what you did not like? Was it too boxy sounding for you as well? Was is something else?

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    Still working for me.
    The greatest amp I´ve played, and I have owned every types of Fender tube amps and Mesa mrk 2B
    I bought 2 sets to have a spare
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpguitar View Post
    For me, I lusted after reading the glowing reviews here... but when I owned it, I didn't like the sound much . . . . Finally sold it just recently and that's that.
    My tag line on another site is, "I wanted one until I got one!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Sherry View Post
    My tag line on another site is, "I wanted one until I got one!"
    The story of this amp taught me to be wary of the "amp of the moment" type of thinking.

    You see it over and over in life, the "must-haves." Often, they rarely live up to the hype.

    I have one and I like it, but at least for bedroom playing, I use my Super Champ XD. The JMUL can get really loud, which is probably going to be great when I play with others. And I do like the tone, but I am easy.

    I think things can be just "so good" and that is it. How good is "good" when it comes to a food, song, car, etc..

    I am too old now to get caught up in any hype (although, to be honest I still lust for one of those Mambo Amps every now and then!).

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    In the end, I love this powerful little amp. When a buddy comes by, I let him play it while I play the Superchamp XD.

    For me, good is good and that is all I need. (That is probably how I stay happily married).

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    A good conversation. The Acoustasonic Ultralight version of the JMUL is never discussed. It has only the clean channel and if you like the JMUL and value it only for the clean channel then the Acoustasonic Ultralight is an overlooked gem. Despite its Acoustic Guitar leanings, it works well with our kind of pickups, too.

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    The Acoustasonic sounds great, I had the luck of playing one at Mandolin Brothers, back in 2013. I believe the amp is the same, but the cab / speakers are quite different!

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    I had a JMUL. I really regret getting rid of it. If anyone knows or hears of one for sale, please message me. I would love to give it another try.

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    This guy tells that there were too many burnt and thus Fender stopped making them.


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    It's come from many sources that the amp in question just wasn't reliable enough. As for the Super Champ XD, changing the preamp tubes and replacing the stock speaker with an Eminence Ragin' Cajun made it a great combo. Sold it before trying on Jensen's Tornado 10, which no doubt would have been fine.

    Over the past few years, I have approached both Fender and Gallien-Krueger, proposing that they modify a contemporary lightweight bass amp by possibly removing something bass-specific and adding a reverb. The amps: Rumble 200 and MB 200, both of which I have used for jazz guitar. Fender's response: "Right on", no action. Gallien's: none. Fortunately, early Henriksens and modern DV Mark and Quilter heads are excellent and reliable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doublea A View Post
    I had a JMUL. I really regret getting rid of it. If anyone knows or hears of one for sale, please message me. I would love to give it another try.
    Where are you located?

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    I was just going post this video. I wonder how many cabs are out though. 17lbs 1x12 Jensen Neodymium.

    Quote Originally Posted by Herbie View Post
    This guy tells that there were too many burnt and thus Fender stopped making them.


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    I have Super Champ X2. I straight traded the combo for a head about four years ago because I had this 1x10 custom built baltic birch cab with Rajin' Cajun in - used $150Cdn - about $39.95 US . Best low watt clean sound I've heard. Haven't changed the tubes yet though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gitterbug View Post
    It's come from many sources that the amp in question just wasn't reliable enough. As for the Super Champ XD, changing the preamp tubes and replacing the stock speaker with an Eminence Ragin' Cajun made it a great combo.

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    Hi All

    Resurrecting this old thread as I've managed to just buy two of these amps in mint complete condition.

    I've been looking for one for a couple of years finding them for sale abroad, these were generally for silly prices and would probably cost quite a bit for insured shipping ect, found just the head on ebay about a year ago which went for about £250 if my memory serves, and then all of a sudden two complete sets come up for sale, one on Ebay and one from a shop, I received the first one about a week ago and have been really impressed with the tone and how loud it can go, which is anything from quiet bedroom practice to really annoying the entire street, the DI out sounds pretty good into Logic Pro, so when the second one came up on Ebay I thought I have that one to as a spare as these were known for going pop.

    If you see one going for a reasonable price (£300 to £400) complete I can recommend it, you can probably get something with better features and support for less but I am not convinced you can get a better clean tone for less and I have a/b'd up against a Line 6 DT25 head and cab, 2 X Hotrod Deluxe, Kantana Artist, Kantana 100 head, Yamaha THR100HD plus the matching cab. It held it's own against all of them, was very hard to tell the difference between the Hotrods (figures) but to my ears was warmer and fuller sounding than the rest, on a volume test it was easily the loudest with the Hotrods coming second. Not a scientific test but for what I paid for both they were only slightly more than I paid for the Kantana Artist, but is far more portable, louder and in my opinion much better sounding and looking.

    Thanks Chris
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    Chris,

    I think they are a pretty neat amp/speaker. People may have cooled on them when they realized that the head/speaker is a 2-ohm combination. It's difficult to find another cabinet that presents this load to the head, other than the UL cabinet.

    It's a nice combination, however.

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    I’ve had mine (head, cab, cables, footswitch and and speaker cab cover)on CL for a month. Someone offered to pay $400 CDN (about $300 USD) and come by in an hour to pick it up. Figured I may as well keep it.

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    +1
    Im still using mine. Worked hundreds and hundreds gigs since 2007 without problems.
    For me it still tops everything I´ve tried, and that is plenty.
    The clean channel goes from Polytone to Fender blackface sound
    using the 3 Eq knobs (+ the little prescence knob).
    The gain channel covers Fender chrunch up to Marshall drive
    A thing I like is that a silky treble increases when turning up the gain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doublea A View Post
    I had a JMUL. I really regret getting rid of it. If anyone knows or hears of one for sale, please message me. I would love to give it another try.
    A local player was selling off some gear and I got JMUL head with a speaker that he built himself. IMO his speaker is much better than any other one that I have heard in combo with this amp.
    I Love it !!
    It is great with my Archtops as well as my Teles.
    It is a great alternative to my JazzKat which seems to be on the fritz half of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doublea A View Post
    A local player was selling off some gear and I got JMUL head with a speaker that he built himself. IMO his speaker is much better than any other one that I have heard in combo with this amp.
    I Love it !!
    It is great with my Archtops as well as my Teles.
    It is a great alternative to my JazzKat which seems to be on the fritz half of the time.
    Congrats!

    What is the speaker in this DIY cabinet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doublea A View Post
    A local player was selling off some gear and I got JMUL head with a speaker that he built himself. IMO his speaker is much better than any other one that I have heard in combo with this amp.
    I Love it !!
    It is great with my Archtops as well as my Teles.
    It is a great alternative to my JazzKat which seems to be on the fritz half of the time.
    I wonder if that was mine, with the grey tolexed box. If so, it was an Eminence Beta 8 in a double ported cabinet with an Eminence crossover and rear firing tweeter with an L pad. Designed with software from Eminence, and deliberately designed to cut off the boomy low frequencies that can feed back easily. This was done by selecting a smaller enclosure size until I decided it would probably be ok. Turned out fine, I thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krusty View Post
    I wonder if that was mine, with the grey tolexed box. If so, it was an Eminence Beta 8 in a double ported cabinet with an Eminence crossover and rear firing tweeter with an L pad. Designed with software from Eminence, and deliberately designed to cut off the boomy low frequencies that can feed back easily. This was done by selecting a smaller enclosure size until I decided it would probably be ok. Turned out fine, I thought.
    Yes. It was yours. Not just turned out. Turned out great !!


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