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As requested:
This is a 3" deep laminate Heritage that has a 25.5" scale, an ebony board, a mahogany neck, and 21 frets. The guy who had it before me, Toty Viola, ordered it with Lollartrons. I put in Lollar Low Winds.
It plays very well and sounds great. It captures the Kenny Burrell "pluck and sparkle" nicely.
It is somewhat feedback resistant. There is a thin partial centerblock to support the bridge, which helps.
A great thing about it is the high fret access. It's like playing a 335 in that regard.
Here's a bunch of pix:
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Here's the important one. Toty is in the foreground smiling. For those who are not familiar with him, here's a video.
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02-06-2015 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Marty Grass
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Originally Posted by GNAPPI
"Holy double cut-away Batman...we better the check the terms of our licensing deal with DC...we might get hot again, and this could be big...Spiderman certainly made out with that Stan Lee guy over at Marvel!"
---Robin, Batman's trusty sidekick and Millionaire Bruce Wayne's "ward"Last edited by goldenwave77; 02-12-2015 at 02:59 PM. Reason: Riffing on post #47
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I have been doing a LOT of research into archtops on the net, listening to every youtube vid I can, because of course most music stores don't stock many fine archtops these days
my goal was to find the "definative" jazz box, sound-wise.. the winner in my opinion is the Gibson l-5. or the Wesmo, the choice between the two, might be personal pref... however, whilst listening to the ever so entertaining Greg Koch, on wildwood gutars, I checked out the l-5 double cut on a whim. never really considering it. The sound shocked me... it def, sounded fuller, richer than the l-5ct, and possibly as full/round as a standard l-5/wesmo...Greg K. called the sound "velvety".. it sure as heck was to my ears. they do sound tests w/ exact same amp settings on all the jazz boxes... I have NEVER heard a guitar that thin sound that big. I compared it to the gibson 63' 335 re-issue, no contest. This thing has at least one of the most beautiful sound I have ever heard..
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all sharts are foolish
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Originally Posted by Marty Grass
edit - Toty's Uncle Michele plays wonderfully too!
Last edited by 2bornot2bop; 04-10-2015 at 03:58 PM.
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I love the look of the DC and figured the best way to compare it to a std L5 was to do an extended test - by getting one. I terms of tone, to my ear, the std L5 has greater range but this difference is greatly reduced when both have flats. So I keep flats on the DC and rounds on the CES. The body depth allows for an easier time playing standing, but the feel is very similar, as it the build quality... as far as desert island one guitar only, its the CES, but its mighty close.
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I never understood the point of a double cut with a giant long heel. It has no benefit to upper neck fluid access. Now if you just like THE LOOK, then yes it looks very cool and unique. And I enjoy visual aesthetics as much as the next person, but they're no more functional than a single cut.
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Originally Posted by Woody Sound
Totally agree - the heel is identical across the two and consequently the accessibility is the same. I doubt very many would have been made because as you say, the difference is entirely cosmetic (apart from the CT depth).
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Originally Posted by joeUK
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Originally Posted by Woody Sound
I don't know about you guys but the only active player I've seen with that model in the last couple pf years was Jesse van Ruller from The Netherlands and
he's not using this one at the moment. Sadly I've never had the chance to try it out so I have no idea about it's sound and feel - it looks attractive and I could imagine
it also plays well but the sound ....any really distinctive differences between this and an ES-175 (and it's sisters) ?
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Originally Posted by Woody Sound
Last edited by Marty Grass; 08-15-2020 at 06:03 PM.
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do somebody remember this doublecut D'Angelico in the Tsumura book?
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I have a set of plates for one of these. Hmmm, maybe I'll add it to my Roger build list:
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I recently saw one of these for sale locally. I never knew they existed. It appears they’re a recent iteration of L-5 CES. Does anybody have much experience with them? Besides the additional cutaway, they’re also somewhat thinner (2 3/8”). Somehow it doesn’t look right to me but that’s probably because I’m so used to seeing single cuts (used to own one). Thoughts about how you think it would compare value wise with a late model single cutaway L-5 CES? It certainly would have rarity on its side. Desirability is another question. I’m tempted to go play it and see how I like it.
It still shows up on the Gibson site but I doubt they still make it.
Gibson.com: Gibson Custom L-5 Doublecut
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I suspect they made a dozen of them in one batch back in 2014/2015 and called it a day. It's simply a thinline L-5CES (or a long-scale Byrdland, take your pick) with a spare cutaway. Plays the same. Sounds the same. Same build quality. Same hardware. No functional benefit unless you are a lefty. I think they are dead sexy.
Last edited by Hammertone; 03-30-2022 at 01:16 AM.
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Nicely executed, but not for me.
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what possessed them to put the pickup selector ala 175?
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Originally Posted by wintermoon
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Originally Posted by wintermoon
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Originally Posted by citizenk74
of course from a function standpoint everyone has their own taste
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Originally Posted by wintermoon
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They could have taken a page from Gertsch and put a couple of switches and knobs on both cutaways. Missed opportunity, if you ask me.
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Originally Posted by Hammertone
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Originally Posted by Scotto
Used Ibanez AF 207 7-string archtop
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